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"And if Lying Liars didn't make you laugh, you need to travel back in-time 4 years and read it again. I remember quite enjoying it."

tis a good read for sure. couple lol moments and he doesnt come off all that whiney. now the follow up (truth with jokes or whatever) was whiney. didnt make it past chapter 2.

1/3/2009 1:54:28 PM

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"(CNN) – The Minnesota State Canvassing Board certified the results of the recount of Republican Sen. Norm Coleman's fight to retain his seat against Democrat Al Franken. The results show Franken with a 225-vote lead."

1/5/2009 4:17:12 PM

Losing conciuoos...nessssss. . ..... ............................................................

1/5/2009 4:19:17 PM

1/5/2009 5:04:52 PM

how many of frankens winning votes magically came out of a car trunk?

1/5/2009 5:20:10 PM

bout as many as came outta Coleman's ass.

...

look the fact is, when a major election comes down to a statistical dead heat -- such as this one -- there is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY to precisely determine the winner.

the winner will be the one who has the fastest and sharpest legal team and/or the one who can pull a dirty trick without getting caught.

with so many people voting, and so many variables and potentials for human error -- you can count the votes 50 times and you're likely gonna get 50 different results.

1/5/2009 5:26:54 PM

^ Wrong--as usual.

Funny Business in Minnesota
In which every dubious ruling seems to help Al Franken

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"Strange things keep happening in Minnesota, where the disputed recount in the Senate race between Norm Coleman and Al Franken may be nearing a dubious outcome. Thanks to the machinations of Democratic Secretary of State Mark Ritchie and a meek state Canvassing Board, Mr. Franken may emerge as an illegitimate victor. Mr. Franken started the recount 215 votes behind Senator Coleman, but he now claims a 225-vote lead and suddenly the man who was insisting on 'counting every vote' wants to shut the process down. He's getting help from Mr. Ritchie and his four fellow Canvassing Board members, who have delivered inconsistent rulings and are ignoring glaring problems with the tallies. Under Minnesota law, election officials are required to make a duplicate ballot if the original is damaged during Election Night counting. Officials are supposed to mark these as 'duplicate' and segregate the original ballots. But it appears some officials may have failed to mark ballots as duplicates, which are now being counted in addition to the originals. This helps explain why more than 25 precincts now have more ballots than voters who signed in to vote. By some estimates this double counting has yielded Mr. Franken an additional 80 to 100 votes. This disenfranchises Minnesotans whose vote counted only once. And one Canvassing Board member, State Supreme Court Justice G. Barry Anderson, has acknowledged that 'very likely there was a double counting.' Yet the board insists that it lacks the authority to question local officials and it is merely adding the inflated numbers to the totals. In other cases, the board has been flagrantly inconsistent. Last month, Mr. Franken's campaign charged that one Hennepin County (Minneapolis) precinct had 'lost' 133 votes, since the hand recount showed fewer ballots than machine votes recorded on Election Night. Though there is no proof to this missing vote charge -- officials may have accidentally run the ballots through the machine twice on Election Night -- the Canvassing Board chose to go with the Election Night total, rather than the actual number of ballots in the recount. That decision gave Mr. Franken a gain of 46 votes. Meanwhile, a Ramsey County precinct ended up with 177 more ballots than there were recorded votes on Election Night. In that case, the board decided to go with the extra ballots, rather than the Election Night total, even though the county is now showing more ballots than voters in the precinct. This gave Mr. Franken a net gain of 37 votes, which means he's benefited both ways from the board's inconsistency. And then there are the absentee ballots. The Franken campaign initially howled that some absentee votes had been erroneously rejected by local officials. Counties were supposed to review their absentees and create a list of those they believed were mistakenly rejected. Many Franken-leaning counties did so, submitting 1,350 ballots to include in the results. But many Coleman-leaning counties have yet to complete a re-examination. Despite this lack of uniformity, and though the state Supreme Court has yet to rule on a Coleman request to standardize this absentee review, Mr. Ritchie's office nonetheless plowed through the incomplete pile of 1,350 absentees this weekend, padding Mr. Franken's edge by a further 176 votes. The question is how the board can certify a fair and accurate election result given these multiple recount problems. Yet that is precisely what the five members seem prepared to do when they meet today. Some members seem to have concluded that because one of the candidates will challenge the result in any event, why not get on with it and leave it to the courts? Mr. Coleman will certainly have grounds to contest the result in court, but he'll be at a disadvantage given that courts are understandably reluctant to overrule a certified outcome. Meanwhile, Minnesota's other Senator, Amy Klobuchar, is already saying her fellow Democrats should seat Mr. Franken when the 111th Congress begins this week if the Canvassing Board certifies him as the winner. This contradicts Minnesota law, which says the state cannot award a certificate of election if one party contests the results. Ms. Klobuchar is trying to create the public perception of a fait accompli, all the better to make Mr. Coleman look like a sore loser and build pressure on him to drop his legal challenge despite the funny recount business. Minnesotans like to think that their state isn't like New Jersey or Louisiana, and typically it isn't. But we can't recall a similar recount involving optical scanning machines that has changed so many votes, and in which nearly every crucial decision worked to the advantage of the same candidate[u]. The Coleman campaign clearly misjudged the politics here, and the apparent willingness of a partisan like Mr. Ritchie to help his preferred candidate, Mr. Franken. [u]If the Canvassing Board certifies Mr. Franken as the winner based on the current count, it will be anointing a tainted and undeserving Senator."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111967642552909.html

Your posted reservations about Franken aside, schmoe, if this were a Republican, you and your cohorts--and ACORN, no doubt--would be screaming bloody murder. And you have the gall to call me a partisan hack?

In any event, I can't think of a more partisan candidate in recent memory than al-Franken. God, I hope this fucker loses.

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 10:14 PM. Reason : .]

1/5/2009 10:14:16 PM

franken is a piece of shit on an epic level

1/5/2009 11:07:06 PM

fuck Stuart Smalley

1/5/2009 11:12:32 PM

^^^ I bet you were equally concerned about vote counting in 2000 too, weren't you?

It's sad in any case, especially if you hate Franken, that his opponent couldn't handily beat him. What does that say about his opponent?

1/5/2009 11:50:02 PM

^ Um. . .this may surprise you but I don't want anyone to "win" illegitimately--whether I agree with his positions or not. And 2000?! Are you fucking serious with that bullshit?!

Dude, grab the reins. Bush is out in a few days, okay? It's time to seek meaningful psychiatric treatment for your Bush derangement syndrome.

1/6/2009 12:11:46 AM

^ So you're saying Bush won illegitimately?

And considering people's predictions about Bush actually came true time and again, I wouldn't call it "derangement" really. Maybe if more people were "deranged" in 2004, things might have been different.

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM. Reason : ]

1/6/2009 12:12:45 AM

My post is quite clear. And denial is an ugly thing--you really should seek help.

1/6/2009 12:21:19 AM

Does it ever keep you awake at night knowing you actually voted for Bush?

1/6/2009 12:30:38 AM

1/6/2009 12:54:03 AM

A coin flip could easily hand a Super Bowl victory to one team instead of another, and honestly that's a much bigger deal than a senate seat from Minnesota.

1/6/2009 7:32:44 AM

I don't usually post in here anymore, but I just wanted to point out that hooksaw really ought to read this before using the WSJ editorial page as a source.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/01/did-wall-street-jorunal-fire-their-fact.html

1/6/2009 8:07:38 AM

3/23/2009 1:52:21 PM

dude please get this shit decided already

3/29/2009 12:18:50 AM

flip a coin and call it in the air, i mean noone gives a shit about minnesota anyway.

3/29/2009 8:59:37 PM

He won, now Coleman appeals to the Minn Supreme Court where he will loose, then he will appeal to the Supreme Court which given the makeup of the Justices, probably will side with Coleman and give him the election.

4/14/2009 1:58:08 AM

is it guaranteed that the supreme court will hear the case?

[Edited on April 14, 2009 at 2:05 AM. Reason : from what i've heard...gore v bush from 2000 would cause franken to win]

4/14/2009 2:02:13 AM

I can't imagine how the people of Minnesota, the United States, or the planet Earth will in any way benefit from Al Franken becoming a US Senator. Maybe Coleman is just as much of a douchebag, I don't know, I didn't have to suffer through years of hearing him suck at life. But I have a solution to this crisis.

We will take a moose and make it a Senator. Moose should be agreeable to everybody, as it is an animal native to the northern part of North America. It will be a registered democrat moose, but it will abstain from all votes, because it is a moose. That way you still technically get your extra democrat, you still get a Senator which is only marginally less effective at lawmaking than people Senators, and I don't ever have to hear a fucking word about Al Franken ever again.

You know what, I don't care if you just make the moose vote with Nancy Pelosi 100% of the time. But please, in the name of everything that we as an American people hold dear, please don't put Al Franken in a position of political power.

[Edited on April 14, 2009 at 2:14 AM. Reason : ]

4/14/2009 2:14:04 AM

yes, roddy. We certainly should want vote rigging to be allowed to decide a close election. Doing one thing with one set of ballots which helps Candiate A, but in another instance doing the OPPOSITE, again helping Candidate A. Reeeeeaaalllly...

And yeah, let's endorse a count that gives more votes to Candidate A from a precinct than the population of that precinct. Really, sounds like a legit count to me...

4/14/2009 8:35:57 AM

I imagine at one point they considered holding a runoff election. I also imagine that they shot the idea down due to the cost of holding a runoff election. I wonder how much having the issue drag out like this is costing them?

4/14/2009 8:40:28 AM

^^^ A moose won't even fit in one of the Senate seats. And he would poop everywhere. At least with a monkey he could sit in the seat and wear a diaper.

4/14/2009 8:59:25 AM

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"We will take a moose and make it a Senator. Moose should be agreeable to everybody, as it is an animal native to the northern part of North America. It will be a registered democrat moose, but it will abstain from all votes, because it is a moose. That way you still technically get your extra democrat, you still get a Senator which is only marginally less effective at lawmaking than people Senators, and I don't ever have to hear a fucking word about Al Franken ever again. You know what, I don't care if you just make the moose vote with Nancy Pelosi 100% of the time. But please, in the name of everything that we as an American people hold dear, please don't put Al Franken in a position of political power. "

AMEN

4/14/2009 10:01:00 AM

"Who wants to see me pull a spending bill out of a hat?"

4/14/2009 11:11:59 AM

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"I imagine at one point they considered holding a runoff election. I also imagine that they shot the idea down due to the cost of holding a runoff election. I wonder how much having the issue drag out like this is costing them?"

no they didn't, because it's not in minnesota law to have a runoff.

4/14/2009 11:27:13 AM

When are they just going to declare Franken the winner?

4/14/2009 1:41:07 PM

aaronburro, I do realize you are a card carrying member of the lunatic fringe of the GOP...but please read the opinion of the three judges before you post.....thx

4/14/2009 3:12:28 PM

plz to link, and I just might

4/14/2009 10:12:47 PM

[Edited on June 30, 2009 at 2:34 PM. Reason : OH GOD SIREN]

6/30/2009 2:34:29 PM

I think this was the longest election in US History. Yea I have nothing to back that up but I said it anyways.

6/30/2009 2:40:05 PM

heaven help us.

6/30/2009 4:58:49 PM

Oh, Dear Christ!

6/30/2009 5:08:47 PM

Hahaha.

I hope he ridicules every fucking body in the damn place.

He could be the best Senator in U.S. history (if he doesn't try to make a career of it).

6/30/2009 5:10:32 PM

I will say that after working with him and talking to him I really do think he'll make a good senator, fwiw.

6/30/2009 6:08:06 PM

what the fuck is wrong with that state?

maybe the cold perverts their brains

6/30/2009 7:55:34 PM

I support the Inactive Moose Plan as the solution to this issue.

6/30/2009 7:56:23 PM

6/30/2009 8:11:12 PM

nvm

[Edited on June 30, 2009 at 9:25 PM. Reason : \/ thanks]

6/30/2009 9:23:37 PM

coleman conceded today.

6/30/2009 9:24:48 PM

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"I support the Inactive Moose Plan as the solution to this issue."

I continue to rest firmly behind this plan, or virtually any other that prevents Al fucking Franken from being able to use the Senate as a forum. To that end, I am now perfectly willing to accept Joe Stalin as the next Senator from Minnesota.

7/1/2009 12:08:12 AM

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"FILIBUSTER PROOF SENATE"

7/1/2009 12:23:38 AM

And the democrats roll on.
Back to one-party rule. It worked out so well for the repubs.

7/1/2009 12:41:59 AM

sure seems to me hes pulling a clinton...

7/1/2009 1:08:14 AM

^^ Is the supreme court leftist?

7/1/2009 1:02:15 PM

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"And the democrats roll on. Back to one-party rule. It worked out so well for the repubs."

[Edited on July 1, 2009 at 1:20 PM. Reason : ]

7/1/2009 1:16:50 PM

^ I lol'd and then I cried.

7/1/2009 1:56:55 PM