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why would you use a beta os as your primary?

1/5/2009 10:06:17 PM

seems stable and it's apparently faster than xp or vista.

thinking about giving it a try for a week or so.

1/5/2009 10:08:14 PM

so how does this fit in with Vista? I realize this is really Vista 2.0, so is MS going to support both OS's or are they going to scratch Vista after 7 gets going for a while (similar to XP)?

1/5/2009 10:09:37 PM

Quote :

"anybody started using this as their main OS?"

I am. I usually format my computer about once every 6 months and it had been a while, so I gave it a shot. I don't see any downsides (yet) so I figure I'll keep it until it is time to format again. Hell, this beta is more stable and quicker than Vista. It actually makes me not hate this computer again.

1/5/2009 10:18:42 PM

why would you make it your primary OS when its going to expire in 30 days??

1/5/2009 10:29:58 PM

^Because an expiration can be removed:
http://www.blogsdna.com/1802/remove-time-based-expiry-of-windows-7-beta-1-build-7000.htm

...Just sayin'

1/6/2009 12:58:23 AM

^^^^Wait, they scratched XP after Vista got going for a while? Like scratched its back and extended its life cycle? Maybe you meant Me vs. XP.

I'm sure they would support both, as Vista has been out for a while and 7 is probably a year out. Personally, I'm looking to leapfrog Vista, maybe even 7 depending on the reviews.

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 8:17 AM. Reason : -]

1/6/2009 8:15:56 AM

^ i don't think you're going to want to skip 7...by far, XP is better than vista, but win7 is vista minus the pre-SP1 crap, plus boatloads of improvement

i can't say i'm surprised that win7 is just vista SE...just pissed at m$ for not sticking to winfs and releasing vista as it should have been (though i understand that they determined the time gap between XP and a new OS to be too big to wait if they did it properly)

1/6/2009 8:53:41 AM

^^MS is going to stop supporting XP.... sorry, I didn't mean that XP is currently done for, but that's what MS has planned (at least they were planning this) to do in the near future

1/6/2009 9:10:08 AM

I think you're getting confused. MS isn't going to stop supporting XP, they're just trying to stop selling new copies.

They've promised to support it through at least 2014.

1/6/2009 12:56:27 PM

hmmm... ok. I read/heard they were going to stop supporting it (no tech help, updates, etc). guess that was wrong

1/6/2009 1:04:09 PM

no they just REALLY want people to be forced into Vista when buying a new computer.

But support for XP will go on for a while.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/24/microsoft-promises-to-support-windows-xp-until-2014/

1/6/2009 1:06:04 PM

Windows 7 Beta will be available for public on Friday
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009/jan09/01-07CES09PR.mspx

Windows 7 Beta NOW available on MSDN
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/07/windows-7-beta-on-msdn

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx

Quote :

"Microsoft is also providing a QFE patch for the MP3 corruption issues that have plagued build 7000, this should be online shortly as KB961367 for those with official access. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961367"

[Edited on January 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM. Reason : ,]

1/8/2009 11:23:03 AM

1/9/2009 12:45:21 AM

cant get my bluetooth mouse to work in it.. everything else on macbook pro/bootcamp works perfect

1/9/2009 8:07:04 AM

Website says come back this afternoon to download 7 Beta, if you want a "legit" beta copy.

1/9/2009 8:59:56 AM

I'll stick with the one that can be already cracked to work long term

when is microsoft going to figure out their taskbar needs to work like ultramon makes it work? i'm really getting annoyed by that little fact

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 9:22 AM. Reason : asf]

1/9/2009 9:16:28 AM

That's a shame. I had to abandon Ultramon when it started causing some serious buggy behavior on my system. If my system went to the screen saver it would come back with the task bar at the top of the screen and the system would just lock up completely.

Too bad. Ultramon would have been awesome.

1/9/2009 9:45:41 AM

your only problem was with the screensaver? just don't use a screensaver or have the monitor turn off instead or something..


and is anybody else having weird problems on windows 7 when opening networked files in excel or word?? when i try to open something off the fileserver it hangs for 2-3 minutes then opens fine..but i can copy/paste it to my desktop in under a second and open it just fine from there (and i dare say it opens faster than in XP or vista...) works fine from every other OS with the same settings for everything i can find..

gah

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM. Reason : asf]

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM. Reason : asdf]

1/9/2009 9:49:50 AM

Can't turn off the screen saver it's set by a group policy.

I've thought about writing a mouse wiggle app that shifts the mouse over by a pixel every 29:59 so it never goes to a screen saver.

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 10:08 AM. Reason : -]

1/9/2009 10:00:40 AM

o

true

1/9/2009 10:15:50 AM

k..earlier problem of slow file opening was fixed by turning windows firewall off.. d'oh.

more like that + adding the file server to trusted locations in excel.

now it's as fast as any other windows OS i've used

..still working on bluetooth mouse issue.

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM. Reason : maybe this time i got it]

1/9/2009 10:48:29 AM

would someone post here when MS releases the beta. The site is crawling and i might forget about it.

1/9/2009 11:07:17 AM

it's released
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

if you are a subscriber to technet, get it here:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/downloads/default.aspx?pv=36:350

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM. Reason : ,]

1/9/2009 11:24:23 AM

If you find a bug, report dat shit. If its a legit bug worth fixing and hasn't been reported MS might send you a free copy when it goes rtm.

1/9/2009 11:27:05 AM

lol server is 2buzy

I just need a damn key, I hate overloaded sites....now i'm going to be spam refreshing at work all day.

Bullshit, I finally get to it


Error

The site is currently experiencing technical difficulties, please check back in the next business day.


[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2009 12:21:00 PM

the problem is when you login it has you change shit in your profile, and the profile servers cant handle it. I wonder if they forgot to reinforce them.

1/9/2009 12:53:22 PM

i'm gonna run it on my macbook pro w/ 4gigs of ram. should i try 32 or 64bit?

also i'll probably play with it in vmware fusion 2 first. which would be easier to virtualize?

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 12:58 PM. Reason : dfdf]

1/9/2009 12:57:34 PM

^ - in December I ran build 7000 (32 bit i think) in a vm (fusion 2) with really good results. Plus, I was only giving it a gig of RAM. Seems to be a really solid OS so far.

1/9/2009 1:01:58 PM

tech site is down

1/9/2009 4:02:33 PM

damn i seriously need a bigger hard drive...i'm gonna have to burn like 2 dvd data disks to be able to install this

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 4:05 PM. Reason : i dont even think i want this...]

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM. Reason : have 2.5 million ppl already gotten it??]

1/9/2009 4:02:35 PM

it doesn't help when people slickdeal it.
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/17245

1/9/2009 4:32:06 PM

so 2.5 million ppl already download it then? i mean i'm not that bummed out...it woulda sucked for me to try and save my data...just surprised if today was the first day it was open to the public that 2.5 million ppl already got it

1/9/2009 4:34:19 PM

http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-45A4-B985-F0FDFFE1B021/EN/7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULFRE_EN_DVD.iso

1/9/2009 4:51:29 PM

might as well post both of them

x86 version
http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-45A4-B985-F0FDFFE1B021/EN/7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULFRE_EN_DVD.iso

x64 version
http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-45A4-B985-F0FDFFE1B021/EN/7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULXFRE_EN_DVD.ISO

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 4:57 PM. Reason : ,]

1/9/2009 4:55:43 PM

I don't give a fuck about the media. I want my live account to be tied to a legitimate beta key.

^not trying to disrespect the post by any means, I'm actually using the link. I meant that all day I've just been trying to sign up for a key, I figured I would be grabbing the dvd from usenet anyway because of snail like transfer speeds from MS.

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 5:21 PM. Reason : edited]

1/9/2009 5:18:22 PM

ditto

1/9/2009 5:21:15 PM

links keep stalling for me :/

1/9/2009 5:22:40 PM

I was able to get to the final step earlier in the day. The URL actually consisted of "productkeys/x64/default.aspx" or something to that effect. Of course it error'd out before I was successful. I wonder if anyone got a key today?

1/9/2009 5:25:08 PM

Quote :

"Due to very heavy traffic we’re seeing as a result of interest in the Windows 7 Beta, we are adding some additional infrastructure support to the Microsoft.com properties before we post the public beta."

yea.... whatever they did = FAIL

although my download did go back up to 600KB/s+

1/9/2009 5:27:15 PM

my feelings exactly, i want a product key, i could wait a few days for the download.

Quote :

"Update on Windows 7 Beta Availability * 02:53 PM Friday Jan 09, 2009 Due to very heavy traffic we’re seeing as a result of interest in the Windows 7 Beta, we are adding some additional infrastructure support to the Microsoft.com properties before we post the public beta. We want to ensure customers have the best possible experience when downloading the beta, and I’ll be posting here again soon once the beta goes live. Stay tuned! We are excited that you are excited!"

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/01/09/update-on-windows-7-beta-availability.aspx

1/9/2009 5:28:06 PM

i don't get this, this is THE biggest software company in the world and they can't get a freakin' product key distribution to work without their infrastructure being too busy. if anybody should have the infrastructure in place for this it's microsoft... i mean learn from Mozilla's mistake a couple months ago.

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2009 5:30:35 PM

Noen, give us all keys.

thanks.

I really hate that it finally made it to slickdeals front page. I kept checking this morning thinking it was the reason for the busy servers.

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM. Reason : .]

dammit my boss won't renew our technet subscription

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 5:49 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2009 5:36:28 PM

I actually just sent an idea to avoid this in the future to they distribution team

Quote :

"i don't get this, this is THE biggest software company in the world and they can't get a freakin' product key distribution to work without their infrastructure being too busy. if anybody should have the infrastructure in place for this it's microsoft... i mean learn from Mozilla's mistake a couple months ago."

I can't remark too much on this, other than to say the demand for this beta is retardedly higher than anyone expected. And it wouldn't matter what infrastructure was used, it wouldn't be able to meet the instant demand. I would very very highly recommend you guys just wait till Sunday or Monday to download / register. It's funny how angry people get when they are surprised that the entire world can't download the same thing at the same time without problems.

1/9/2009 6:14:39 PM

is that not possible?

i thought there was a limit to # of registrations, that's why i'm upset. if not, then i can wait.

1/9/2009 6:20:16 PM

anyone know what the cost will be to upgrade from vista (for final release)

1/9/2009 6:32:59 PM

The limit was supposedly 2.5 million
however given the huge amount of interest, I wouldn't be surprised if they just leave it open.

1/9/2009 6:36:48 PM

woohoo

it's days like this that i'm glad i have an MSDN subscription

1/9/2009 8:14:40 PM

I just went to the site and had no problems getting it. Seems it might be fixed.

1/9/2009 8:37:01 PM

I just went to the site and had no problems getting it. Seems it might be fixed.

1/9/2009 8:37:01 PM