check it out

the 3rd post was just restated in the 49th post

but here we are on page 2

ready to do it again

[Edited on January 20, 2009 at 8:29 PM. Reason : GO STATE]

1/20/2009 8:28:59 PM

Quote :

"Republican18 All American 15228 Posts user info edit post Lets not kid ourselves, no one really knows who Obama really is. He ran on very vague feel good notions, "Hope", "Change", "Yes We Can". In doing so everyone projected their own meanings of those platitudes on him. Although few know what hope and change really mean other than anti-Bush. He has been very light on specifics. Also, the cult of personality around him is a bit scary since no one really knows who he is, and expectations of him are so high. Should be an interesting 4 years "

Dubya is by far the emptiest vessel ever seated at a Presidential position.

[Edited on January 20, 2009 at 8:30 PM. Reason : .]

1/20/2009 8:29:45 PM

Here's a very interesting "change" the Obama admin has made:
http://www.kottke.org/09/01/the-countrys-new-robotstxt-file

1/20/2009 8:31:02 PM

Quote :

"so what you're saying is you don't understand how people can disrespect a president who has 8 years of fuck-ups, botched shit, and a legacy barely better than Warren G Harding's (if that) but you don't mind blatantly talking shit about a president who has less than 8 hours of presidency behind him"

1/20/2009 8:33:36 PM

So far today, Obama has halted all trials at Gitmo and rescinded all of Bush's midnight regulations still in progress. WHAT A VACUOUS ASSHOLE!!!

1/21/2009 9:35:24 AM

lol. What's funny is that some of you don't realize you are a huge minority right now in the graces of the American people.

Things have changed. You can either decide to embrace an honest relationship of building positive and effective governing changes and policies (and boy are they coming) because the plight of America is very dire right now, or you can opt out and play to the xenophobic, logically deprived defiant party of ever shrinking white baby-boomers. All the while the minority and majority racial divisions continue to shrink at huge rates.

It's your choice, but you better choose wisely or you'll be locked out of many elections in the future. Your party lacks any credible leadership when you prattle on during these tough times about partisan bullshit.

Basically, either get involved for the country's sake or keep losing.

1/21/2009 1:04:14 PM

this could be a great deal for people with lots of CC debt (often through their own fault, often) but who are then being raped by the CC companies with ridiculous and unreasonable policies
http://www.minyanville.com/articles/Credit-cof-v-cards-mastercard-mc/index/a/20716

Quote :

"New credit card regulations take effect in July 2010. Representative Carolyn Maloney of New York has reintroduced the Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights, which offers the same reforms and would become effective 90 days after President Obama signs the bill into law; the proposed plan could effect such issuers as MasterCard (MA), Visa (V) and Capital One (COF). The changes, the most significant in about 30 years, affect how banks market and bill credit cards. Here's what you need to know: * Higher interest rates on a current balance will be permitted only under specific conditions such as the expiration of a promotional rate, late payment or a variable rate. Interest rates on new transactions can be increased only after 45 days' advance notice. * There will be no more universal default, nor raising interest rates based on a customer's payment history with utility companies or other credit issuers not affiliated with the bank issuing the credit card. * Payments will be due at least 21 days after the bill is mailed or delivered. Credit card issuers will no longer be able to set early morning deadlines for payments. * When a different interest rate is applied to various balances, payments will be applied first to the balance with the higher rate or divided proportionally. * Customers exceeding their credit limit will no longer be hit with a fee if a hold has been placed on their account. This routinely happens to customers who reserve a hotel or rental car when merchants place a hold on the account for the entire amount to be billed several weeks or months in the future. * Finance charges on a balance due will be computed on charges in the current cycle rather than going back to the previous billing cycle. Double-cycle billing hits customers who pay their balance in full one month, but not the next. * Terms will be disclosed in plain English. "

1/21/2009 1:18:15 PM

Quote :

"Terms will be disclosed in plain English."

why not Spanish?

1/21/2009 1:21:31 PM

Quote :

"When a different interest rate is applied to various balances, payments will be applied first to the balance with the higher rate or divided proportionally."

that's the best one.

1/21/2009 2:02:16 PM

Quote :

"lol. What's funny is that some of you don't realize you are a huge minority right now in the graces of the American people. Things have changed. You can either decide to embrace an honest relationship of building positive and effective governing changes and policies (and boy are they coming) because the plight of America is very dire right now, or you can opt out and play to the xenophobic, logically deprived defiant party of ever shrinking white baby-boomers. All the while the minority and majority racial divisions continue to shrink at huge rates. It's your choice, but you better choose wisely or you'll be locked out of many elections in the future. Your party lacks any credible leadership when you prattle on during these tough times about partisan bullshit. Basically, either get involved for the country's sake or keep losing."

What? This is a very communistic, fascist-sounding rant. It's very important to have a viable opposition party, and to lend a critical eye towards our government. Right now Obama can do no wrong in the eyes of many, and with Democratic control of congress he has immense power to push through his platform. As Bush showed in the aftermath of 9/11, that can be a recipe for disaster.

Obama has talked quite a bit about building consensus across the aisle. He really doesn't have any incentive to, given his large congressional majority. We'll see in the next few months what he is really about.

1/21/2009 2:23:31 PM

Oh, a great many people are projecting their hopes and dreams and problems onto Obama--if you don't think so, you're simply fooling yourselves. Here are a few examples:

Why Obama?

Quote :

"I won't have to worry about puttin' gas in may car. I won't have to worry about payin' my mortgage. You know, if I help him, he's gonna help me."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz78T_kvqUU

Why Obama? Because he will give me disability:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shmu_-uoKv8

Why Obama? Because he's beautiful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgenRN0twdU

Why Obama? Because, well, this neckbeard's not too sure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B4bueLj31M

Why Obama? Because he came from Heaven to change America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoaE5BtPgbo

1/21/2009 2:40:03 PM

^ who exactly are you responding to?

1/21/2009 2:48:20 PM

Dude

If you don't know who Obama is then you haven't been paying attention for the last two and a half years. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

1/21/2009 2:54:37 PM

^^ I'm addressing the topic--are you really that stupid?

Quote :

"Lets not kid ourselves, no one really knows who Obama really is. He ran on very vague feel good notions, 'Hope', 'Change', 'Yes We Can'. In doing so everyone projected their own meanings of those platitudes on him."

Now, address my post or GTFO.

^ Yeah, a lot of people know exactly who Obama is--whatever they want him to be.

[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 2:58 PM. Reason : .]

1/21/2009 2:55:40 PM

Quote :

"He has been very light on specifics."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/

If you want specifics, go read to your heart's content.

If you don't think he will follow through on those specifics, then fine, but you are making a guess just like everyone else.

1/21/2009 3:05:07 PM

^^ LOL, that is one of your saddest posts to date.

You don't generally address someone you're agreeing with using a challenge. But if we just read your post as the rantings of a blind partisan, you still don't address the initial post in a meaningful way. Unless you're somehow alleging that no one knew who Obama was, which has already shown to be blatantly wrong several times in this thread.

And for every youtube video of an Obama supporter who doesn't know about him, there are 10x more with identical McCain supporters, who are usually spouting something racist in addition.

It was a good try though, at least you're making a show.

[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 3:05 PM. Reason : ]

1/21/2009 3:05:28 PM

Who gives a shit about McCain? The old man lost, get over it

The problem is that we've not only given Obama the keys to the car, we've also given him a blank check with that huge congressional majority. On top of that, he can seemingly do no wrong in the eyes of thousands of adoring journalists and millions of worshipping fans. I'd like to see some real, critical analysis of Obama's decisions and policy, but I doubt I'll see anything like that for a while. And while I trust the guy to make the right decision more than I would ever trust Bush, there are no checks or balances in place to prevent him from going down the wrong path.

1/21/2009 3:10:33 PM

you should know from the past two years that congressional democrats are far from monolithic.

1/21/2009 3:13:34 PM

Yep.

Nancy Pelosi is already agitating to raise taxes and probe Bush. Obama needs to put that old bitch in her place.

1/21/2009 3:17:56 PM

^ "Investigations" of Bush-Cheney will rip this country apart. I think Obama is too smart to do this.

1/21/2009 3:45:36 PM

Quote :

"OBAMA CRITICISM MORATORIUM"

1/21/2009 3:47:26 PM

Quote :

"The problem is that we've not only given Obama the keys to the car, we've also given him a blank check with that huge congressional majority. On top of that, he can seemingly do no wrong in the eyes of thousands of adoring journalists and millions of worshipping fans. I'd like to see some real, critical analysis of Obama's decisions and policy, but I doubt I'll see anything like that for a while. And while I trust the guy to make the right decision more than I would ever trust Bush, there are no checks or balances in place to prevent him from going down the wrong path."

Pretty spot on.

1/21/2009 4:00:44 PM

Quote :

"there are no checks or balances in place to prevent him from going down the wrong path"

yeah, you're right - Democrats in Congress will do anything he wants and there's not a damn thing the Republicans can do about it, nor the Supreme Court!



more than likely, I bet Obama will be pulling the reigns in on Congress. I will guarantee he will pull out his veto pen a lot faster than Bush pulled his out.

1/21/2009 4:05:20 PM

^^


A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media by Bernard Goldberg



[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 4:08 PM. Reason : .]

1/21/2009 4:07:58 PM

Quote :

""Investigations" of Bush-Cheney will rip this country apart. I think Obama is too smart to do this."

For One Thing: Neither Obama, nor the executive branch, will do any investigating.

but, practically speaking, has an ex-President ever been seriously investigated after leaving office? I don't think so, but I'm not sure. I expect that every sitting president -- no matter how much they may have disliked the prior administration -- will be reluctant to try to criminalize actions of their predecessor.

It would set a dangerous precedent that would easily be turned on them.

1/21/2009 4:11:52 PM

Quote :

"lol. What's funny is that some of you don't realize you are a huge minority right now in the graces of the American people. Things have changed. You can either decide to embrace an honest relationship of building positive and effective governing changes and policies (and boy are they coming) because the plight of America is very dire right now, or you can opt out and play to the xenophobic, logically deprived defiant party of ever shrinking white baby-boomers. All the while the minority and majority racial divisions continue to shrink at huge rates. It's your choice, but you better choose wisely or you'll be locked out of many elections in the future. Your party lacks any credible leadership when you prattle on during these tough times about partisan bullshit. Basically, either get involved for the country's sake or keep losing."

I remember reading almost the exact same things during Bush's reelection. Its pretty safe to say people got way ahead of themselves there, as you are with your quote. A viable conservative candidate running a conservative campaign on conservative principles very much has a place in our country.

Once the honeymoon is over, we will really see what the public things of BO.


I think the throngs of people buying into the whole 'hope and change' theme will become disenchanted and disinterested 4 years from now when they realize the culture of Washington didnt change overnight. The biggest thing BO has to fight against isnt policy making, the economy of terrorism...its the unrealistic expectations of a good number of his supporters.

I hope BO is the best President ever. We need a historical figure and strong leader to put us back on the right path. I just dont think he will be that figure.

[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 4:19 PM. Reason : .]

1/21/2009 4:18:11 PM

^^^ Oh yeah. Bernie Goldberg. Now there's a credible, non-partisan commentator.

At least now we see where you get your source material.

Quote :

"Goldberg [has] shifted the focus of his work to accusing the media of liberal bias, and particularly in the reporting of news. bibliography: Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News Arrogance: Rescuing America from the Media Elite 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America. Crazies to the Left of Me, Wimps to the Right Boston Globe journalist Cathy Young criticized Goldberg's book 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America for listing mostly liberal or liberal-leaning individuals and only "a few Token Right-Wingers," without acknowledging this bias. --wikipedia "

[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 4:20 PM. Reason : ]

1/21/2009 4:19:01 PM

Quote :

"Nancy Pelosi is agitating. Obama needs to put that old bitch in her place."

1/21/2009 4:19:27 PM

^^^^

Quote :

"For One Thing: Neither Obama, nor the executive branch, will do any investigating."

Wrong again, schmoe.

If a special counselor is appointed, he or she would be appointed by the attorney general--who is a part of the executive branch. Congress also can conduct inquiries and investigations.

[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 4:21 PM. Reason : .]

1/21/2009 4:19:50 PM

she and Harry Reid give Dems a collective bad name. they are really insufferable.

1/21/2009 4:20:03 PM

Quote :

"the attorney general--who is a part of the Super Friends Justice League."

interesting.

tell me, when you take your Liberal Studies at CHASS, you don't really spend much time learning about US Goverment, i take it?




Oh okay, nice edit.

[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 4:43 PM. Reason : ]

1/21/2009 4:21:19 PM

Quote :

"interesting. tell me, when you take your Liberal Studies at CHASS, you don't really spend much time learning about US Goverment, i take it?"

joe_schmoe

QFT.

^ No, I think it was first grade.

Official US Executive Branch Web Sites

Department of Justice (DOJ)

http://www.loc.gov/rr/news/fedgov.html

Quote :

"Since the 1870 Act that established the Department of Justice as an executive department of the government of the United States, the Attorney General has guided the world's largest law office and the central agency for enforcement of federal laws."

http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/

Sweet Jesus--what a typical dumbass engineer. HOW MUCH PRESSURE'S IN THE PIPE?! TELL ME THAT SHIT?!!1

1/21/2009 4:27:47 PM

joe, you better delete your post in 'soapbox quotes 2009' quickfast.

1/21/2009 4:31:33 PM

^heh

He may have a semantic argument in the "part of the executive branch" thing... it would be The Soap Box thing to do

1/21/2009 4:34:07 PM

He doesn't even have a semantic argument. He's just flat out wrong.

1/21/2009 4:35:23 PM

TSB is semantic central.

1/21/2009 4:36:37 PM

yeah. i didn't know if there was some technical argument against attny general being in the exec branch. but i didn't know of one. and it seems that there isn't one.

1/21/2009 4:37:04 PM

look here, hooktard. Dont make me spell it out to you. You see here, the AG is head of the Justice and Justice is part of the Laws and Laws are part of the... "enforcement" wing of the Justice League ...

oh, hey.... look!







The Queen!
















(movin' on to page 3)

[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 4:41 PM. Reason : ]

1/21/2009 4:38:30 PM

^ Yeah, that's sad.

1. I wouldn't enjoy it so much if you didn't swoop in here all the time acting as if you are actually smart because you're some kind of engineer--allegedly.

2. I have nearly two pages of me pwning the shit out of you going back several years. If I ever posted it, you would be embarrassed and just how much of a dumbass you are would become painfully--and immediately--evident.

3. Don't ever make fun of my education again.

1/21/2009 4:45:16 PM

Quote :

" 3. Don't ever make fun of my education again. "

um, okay.

but can i still call you an old drama queen?

nice underlines, by the way.




[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 4:49 PM. Reason : ]

1/21/2009 4:48:00 PM

Quote :

"Yeah, that's sad."

Quote :

"I have nearly two pages of me pwning the shit out of you going back several years."

1/21/2009 4:50:07 PM

^^
HOW MUCH PRESSURE'S IN THE PIPE?! TELL ME THAT SHIT?!!1

Epic self-pwn--LOL!

^ You're next.

[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]

1/21/2009 4:50:36 PM

^^ I hope he means mental pages or something, because if he literally keeps track of j_s's post like that, that's a bit creepy...

I guess they much teach good record-keeping in Liberal Studies...

[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM. Reason : ]

1/21/2009 4:51:44 PM

Quote :

"I have nearly two pages of me pwning the shit out of you going back several years. If I ever posted it, you would be embarrassed and just how much of a dumbass you are would become painfully--and immediately--evident."

Wait

You keep a TWW diary

AHAHAHAHA
AHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAH
AHAHHAHA

1/21/2009 4:52:41 PM

^ I bet it has a family portrait of the Kennedys on it.

1/21/2009 4:54:08 PM

You know, astute observers of TSB know that there's no love lost between myself and joe_schmoe. But this hooksaw gem:

Quote :

"2. I have nearly two pages of me pwning the shit out of you going back several years. If I ever posted it, you would be embarrassed and just how much of a dumbass you are would become painfully--and immediately--evident."

just reminds me of that one kid in elementary/middle/high school who would always claim to have some kind of secret ninjitsu skills that he'd whip out if you ever kept antagonizing him. And we all know what that kid looked like.

If one has "two pages" worth of "pwning" that is so bad that the other person would just pee their pants and cry, then why talk about it all? Put up or shut up.

EPIC. FAKE. NINJAS.

1/21/2009 4:59:23 PM

it is kind of

he's talked about this "list" before. now he says it is "nearly two pages". i'll bet it's even single-spaced.

but seriously, between his blustery opinions and my penchant for running my mouth too much, I'm surprised it's not four



I guess I should be flattered I have such a fan.

1/21/2009 4:59:39 PM

HOW MUCH PRESSURE'S IN THE PIPE?! TELL ME THAT SHIT?!!1



[Edited on January 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM. Reason : ]

1/21/2009 5:01:54 PM

1/21/2009 5:01:55 PM

Quote :

"you can expect the value of your 401k to triple or maybe even more as soon as he magically fixes the economy by spending even more billions of dollars that we don't have."

you can thank the right for spending all of that surplus

oh and page 2 is pretty damn funny

1/21/2009 5:02:02 PM