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BadPokerPlyr
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You are no longer in the south once you get below Gainesville, Florida. Orlando is like some strange techno tourist country. I'm not sure what to call it really.

2/6/2009 9:40:54 AM

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"http://www.hnet.uci.edu/mclark/HumCore/CoreF2005/WebCoreF05/mason-dixon-map-650.jpg"




pretty much, i get a kick out of VA not thinking they are in the south....

2/6/2009 9:46:39 AM

theDuke866
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"You will find rednecks and hicks everywhere. Some of the most fucked up people I've ever met live in NY outside of the city. Some of the smelliest and trashiest people I ever came in contact with where on Boston's T. Case in point this guy with a mullet and wife beater who got on that smelled so bad that people actually moved away from him. Why do you think country musicians can sell out shows in arenas in the North, Cali, and Pacific Northwest? Because there are rednecks everywhere. I was at the Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta and there were these guys from Ft. Lauderdale that were some of the biggest rednecks I've ever met. They were watching the FSU vs. Miami game, and one of them would go on a racist tirade every time one of the Miami players would mess up, and probably called Randy Shannon the n-word 1,037 times that day. We just happen to have a higher proportion down here. I've got to say though that of all the Southern states I've been to, NC generally has seemed to have more sophisticated people."



Yeah, rednecks and racism are worthless in terms of defining what is or isn't "the South". They are both everywhere. I remember driving around an area 20 minutes outside of Seattle when I lived up there, and it could just as easily have been rural NC or AL, except that the weather sucked.

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 10:20 AM. Reason : asfd]

2/6/2009 10:20:36 AM

slamjamason
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^^,^^^

I probably should edit that map to take the Orlando area into account, but then South of Orlando in South-Central rural Florida it seems like it is probably the South again, e.g. Sebring, Lake Oceechobee, Labelle, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Heartland

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"Unlike the coastal areas to the east and west, the rural nature of the Florida Heartland is culturally closer to the Deep South than the rest of peninsular Florida."



[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 10:33 AM. Reason : link and quote]

2/6/2009 10:30:11 AM

simonn
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looking at what the poor people do is pointless, b/c as has been said, they're pretty much the same everywhere.

you have to look at what the affluent people do to determine if you're in the south or not.

2/6/2009 10:33:36 AM

mrpink
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^ agreed

2/6/2009 10:35:30 AM

StillFuchsia
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"Dark Blue - The South
Light Blue - Sort of the South
No Color - Not the South
Green - Texas"


dude, no way that part of Kansas is even vaguely "sort of the South"

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM. Reason : it's definitely midwest]

2/6/2009 11:18:38 AM

Jader
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the south ends where you cant get sweet tea anymore

2/6/2009 11:31:22 AM

Kodiak
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2/6/2009 11:48:03 AM

nicklepickle
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south dakota

2/6/2009 12:01:06 PM

FykalJpn
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it's interesting how well "the south" correlates to the humid subtropical climate zone:

2/6/2009 12:03:30 PM

TKE-Teg
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"the south ends where you cant get sweet tea anymore"


That holds pretty true, however in that case the South is taking over New Jersey! I was in Cherry Hill last week and they have a brand new Chick Fil-A Suffice to say they've got sweet tea in there.


(FYI never seen a Chick Fil-A north of MD before)

2/6/2009 1:41:06 PM

simonn
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we have a brand spanking new chick fil a by my house in pennsylvania, plus one that's been in the mall for years.

2/6/2009 1:44:27 PM

TKE-Teg
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daaaaaaaaaaaamn. Well now that I think about it, there's a Chick Fil-A in some building at NYU (never seen it). There's also a Bojangles somewhere in Brooklyn.

So forget the sweet tea argument

2/6/2009 1:47:14 PM

Tiberius
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if at one point they grew tobacco and cotton by the labors of enslaved africans, they are definitely "The South"







[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:50 PM. Reason : superimpose and profit]

2/6/2009 1:47:46 PM

TKE-Teg
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^I don't get the first map, and the 3rd map says Delaware is a southern state.

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM. Reason : 3rd]

2/6/2009 1:51:32 PM

NyM410
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Actually, it doesn't even look like Delaware exists on the map ^^

And the Chesepeake Bay seems to have expanded all the way up to the PA border

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM. Reason : x]

2/6/2009 1:52:41 PM

Tiberius
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lookin' for correlation at this point, a couple understandable outliers don't completely invalidate the obvious correlation

also those are 2002 maps, mentally superimpose the agricultural maps on the slavery map for highest accuracy.

enslaved africans = probably south. + cotton or tobacco = very probably south. +cotton *and* tobacco = DING DING DING

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM. Reason : delaware is conveniently excluded by the "growing cotton or tobacco" criteria]

2/6/2009 1:53:40 PM

TKE-Teg
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^^come on man! Delaware is part of the Delmarva peninsula, which is clearly there

^works for me. But seriously, who cares which states farm cotton IN 2002???

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM. Reason : not 1802]

2/6/2009 1:55:28 PM

Tiberius
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I believe they're pretty much the same, it's about the regional climate, and also very much tradition

I also have no idea where to find similar maps for the 1800s lol

2/6/2009 1:57:29 PM

NyM410
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It may very well be there, but unless the Deleware River grew a bit, I'm not seeing it anywhere near NJ...

2/6/2009 1:58:23 PM

Big4Country
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When Jimmy V signed Cozel (sp) McQueen who was from near Clemson, SC he said, "I came to North Carolina State to get out of the south." I guess we're the north then.

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 2:03 PM. Reason : .]

2/6/2009 2:01:55 PM

TKE-Teg
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^yeah but he's probably one of those idiots that can't identify America on a world map

2/6/2009 2:03:18 PM

mrpink
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no way in hell NC isn't part of the south. VA is debatable depending on which part of VA you're in. anywhere north of VA is pushing it way too far

2/6/2009 2:35:32 PM

Amsterdam718
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anything below Washington D.C. is considered the South.

2/6/2009 3:19:05 PM

JCASHFAN
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"I consider DC the northernmost southern city. Plenty of sweet tea there."
wwwhhhhaaaaattttttttt?

I never find sweet tea when I go to DC, even in the older DC restaurants.



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"You are no longer in the south once you get below Gainesville, Florida."
Think of Florida as Afghanistan in the 80s. Sure, the Russians controlled the cities, but the wild-men still had the hills . . . or the swamps in this case.

2/7/2009 7:25:15 AM

theDuke866
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"When Jimmy V signed Cozel (sp) McQueen who was from near Clemson, SC he said, "I came to North Carolina State to get out of the south." I guess we're the north then.
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I met him at K&W once a long time ago.

2/7/2009 7:30:34 AM

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garner

2/7/2009 9:40:48 AM

bottombaby
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My husband and I argue about this all the time because he is from Virginia and I am from North Carolina.

"Well, that's because you're from up north!"
"Ever heard of the Mason Dixon Line?"
"FORGET THAT, DAMNED YANK."

2/7/2009 12:49:04 PM

simonn
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robert e lee is from virginia. virginia is most definitely in the south.

2/7/2009 12:55:12 PM

FykalJpn
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"Think of Florida as Afghanistan in the 80s"


i like this analogy

2/7/2009 1:21:13 PM

zorthage
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One of the confederacy's capitals was in Virginia, pretty sure that makes part of it southern

Area close to DC = north
Area close to WV = north
Area close to NC = south

2/7/2009 1:32:24 PM

twoozles
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northern florida is definitely redneck south.... and the swamplands of course
the coast is a different world

[Edited on February 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM. Reason : ]

2/7/2009 1:38:13 PM

RollPack
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When I was at LSU, pretty much everyone from Lafayette-Baton Rouge-New Orleans (right along I-10) considered everything north of that interstate as the north. Hell, you could be from Shreveport, LA and be a yankee.

However, the clear-minded cajuns I met tended to consider NC/VA border as the start of the south.

My folks grew up in Alabama, and moved to Raleigh a few years before I was born, and because of this I had always considered NC as the top of the south also, hard for me to consider VA as very southern. Especially the areas around DC.

2/7/2009 1:44:26 PM

GoldenGirl
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i think i just prob. live in a bubble since i grew up in C.H. and there arn't real southerners here but I always felt like S.C. and below is the south, i don't feel like N.C. and V.A. belong in the south. but like i said I've lived in a bubble.

2/7/2009 1:54:10 PM

bumpintahoe
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West Virginians get pissed if you call West Virginia 'the north' or 'not a southern state'. Therefore I go with anything below the Mason Dixon Line eventhough I'm from NC.

2/7/2009 1:57:46 PM

tromboner950
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^West Virginia isn't southern, they're just trashy.

2/7/2009 1:58:33 PM

zorthage
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Since the state was formed because they didn't want to leave the union, I say more north than south.

2/7/2009 2:02:55 PM

Punter16
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You need to take Miami into account on that map, Miami is most definitely not the south

2/7/2009 3:12:23 PM

AndyMac
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Anything south of the mason dixon line I consider the south. Including all of florida and virginia.

2/7/2009 4:04:09 PM

bumpintahoe
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"they're just trashy"


What does that have to do with anything?

2/7/2009 4:23:42 PM

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