You are no longer in the south once you get below Gainesville, Florida. Orlando is like some strange techno tourist country. I'm not sure what to call it really.
2/6/2009 9:40:54 AM
2/6/2009 9:46:39 AM
2/6/2009 10:20:36 AM
^^,^^^I probably should edit that map to take the Orlando area into account, but then South of Orlando in South-Central rural Florida it seems like it is probably the South again, e.g. Sebring, Lake Oceechobee, Labelle, etc.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Heartland
2/6/2009 10:30:11 AM
looking at what the poor people do is pointless, b/c as has been said, they're pretty much the same everywhere.you have to look at what the affluent people do to determine if you're in the south or not.
2/6/2009 10:33:36 AM
^ agreed
2/6/2009 10:35:30 AM
2/6/2009 11:18:38 AM
the south ends where you cant get sweet tea anymore
2/6/2009 11:31:22 AM
2/6/2009 11:48:03 AM
south dakota
2/6/2009 12:01:06 PM
it's interesting how well "the south" correlates to the humid subtropical climate zone:
2/6/2009 12:03:30 PM
2/6/2009 1:41:06 PM
we have a brand spanking new chick fil a by my house in pennsylvania, plus one that's been in the mall for years.
2/6/2009 1:44:27 PM
daaaaaaaaaaaamn. Well now that I think about it, there's a Chick Fil-A in some building at NYU (never seen it). There's also a Bojangles somewhere in Brooklyn. So forget the sweet tea argument
2/6/2009 1:47:14 PM
if at one point they grew tobacco and cotton by the labors of enslaved africans, they are definitely "The South"[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:50 PM. Reason : superimpose and profit]
2/6/2009 1:47:46 PM
^I don't get the first map, and the 3rd map says Delaware is a southern state.[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM. Reason : 3rd]
2/6/2009 1:51:32 PM
Actually, it doesn't even look like Delaware exists on the map ^^And the Chesepeake Bay seems to have expanded all the way up to the PA border [Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM. Reason : x]
2/6/2009 1:52:41 PM
lookin' for correlation at this point, a couple understandable outliers don't completely invalidate the obvious correlation also those are 2002 maps, mentally superimpose the agricultural maps on the slavery map for highest accuracy. enslaved africans = probably south. + cotton or tobacco = very probably south. +cotton *and* tobacco = DING DING DING[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM. Reason : delaware is conveniently excluded by the "growing cotton or tobacco" criteria]
2/6/2009 1:53:40 PM
^^come on man! Delaware is part of the Delmarva peninsula, which is clearly there ^works for me. But seriously, who cares which states farm cotton IN 2002???[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM. Reason : not 1802]
2/6/2009 1:55:28 PM
I believe they're pretty much the same, it's about the regional climate, and also very much traditionI also have no idea where to find similar maps for the 1800s lol
2/6/2009 1:57:29 PM
It may very well be there, but unless the Deleware River grew a bit, I'm not seeing it anywhere near NJ...
2/6/2009 1:58:23 PM
When Jimmy V signed Cozel (sp) McQueen who was from near Clemson, SC he said, "I came to North Carolina State to get out of the south." I guess we're the north then.[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 2:03 PM. Reason : .]
2/6/2009 2:01:55 PM
^yeah but he's probably one of those idiots that can't identify America on a world map
2/6/2009 2:03:18 PM
no way in hell NC isn't part of the south. VA is debatable depending on which part of VA you're in. anywhere north of VA is pushing it way too far
2/6/2009 2:35:32 PM
anything below Washington D.C. is considered the South.
2/6/2009 3:19:05 PM
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2/7/2009 7:30:34 AM
garner
2/7/2009 9:40:48 AM
My husband and I argue about this all the time because he is from Virginia and I am from North Carolina."Well, that's because you're from up north!""Ever heard of the Mason Dixon Line?""FORGET THAT, DAMNED YANK."
2/7/2009 12:49:04 PM
robert e lee is from virginia. virginia is most definitely in the south.
2/7/2009 12:55:12 PM
2/7/2009 1:21:13 PM
One of the confederacy's capitals was in Virginia, pretty sure that makes part of it southernArea close to DC = northArea close to WV = northArea close to NC = south
2/7/2009 1:32:24 PM
northern florida is definitely redneck south.... and the swamplands of coursethe coast is a different world[Edited on February 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM. Reason : ]
2/7/2009 1:38:13 PM
When I was at LSU, pretty much everyone from Lafayette-Baton Rouge-New Orleans (right along I-10) considered everything north of that interstate as the north. Hell, you could be from Shreveport, LA and be a yankee. However, the clear-minded cajuns I met tended to consider NC/VA border as the start of the south.My folks grew up in Alabama, and moved to Raleigh a few years before I was born, and because of this I had always considered NC as the top of the south also, hard for me to consider VA as very southern. Especially the areas around DC.
2/7/2009 1:44:26 PM
i think i just prob. live in a bubble since i grew up in C.H. and there arn't real southerners here but I always felt like S.C. and below is the south, i don't feel like N.C. and V.A. belong in the south. but like i said I've lived in a bubble.
2/7/2009 1:54:10 PM
West Virginians get pissed if you call West Virginia 'the north' or 'not a southern state'. Therefore I go with anything below the Mason Dixon Line eventhough I'm from NC.
2/7/2009 1:57:46 PM
^West Virginia isn't southern, they're just trashy.
2/7/2009 1:58:33 PM
Since the state was formed because they didn't want to leave the union, I say more north than south.
2/7/2009 2:02:55 PM
You need to take Miami into account on that map, Miami is most definitely not the south
2/7/2009 3:12:23 PM
Anything south of the mason dixon line I consider the south. Including all of florida and virginia.
2/7/2009 4:04:09 PM
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