4/1/2009 8:41:00 AM

This basically means C-USA just dropped to the level of the A-10 or the WAC.

Maybe ECU has a shot now guys!!!

4/1/2009 3:42:26 PM

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"This basically means C-USA just dropped to the level of the A-10 or the WAC."

eh, the A-10 is and has been the best non-bcs conference in basketball for a while. I would say that without Calipari they are a step below the A-10. the WAC and the WCC and maybe a few others. Putting them above all the other non-bcs conferences just because they had Memphis is kind of silly, is the Horizon league good because they have Butler? I don't think so.

4/1/2009 3:58:38 PM

I'd put the MVC and MWC slightly above the A10 if we're talking about the past 4-5 years. All three are in the first tier of sub-major conferences.

Either way, CUSA is a step or two below that, especially without Memphis.

4/1/2009 4:01:37 PM

Utah and UNLV actually have the potential to make the Final Four w/o going George Mason on everyone (they've done it before), so I'd put the MWC higher than the mentioned teams.

In C-USA, the only past Final Four teams are Houston and Memphis and none of the other current teams are even barely NIT-level.

In A-10, you have a bunch of teams that could make the FF given the right year (UMass, Temple, St. Joe's, UNCC) but also some that could be at the bottom of any league (St. Bonnaventure, Fordham).

The WAC has...Utah State? Nevada? I guess they're ok and have the potential.

As far as potential, I'd def say the MWC is the better non-BCS league, followed by A-10, CUSA, and the WAC.

4/1/2009 4:16:55 PM

^dude did you forget Xavier and Dayton are in the A-10? There are terrible bottom feeder teams in each of these conference, so let's not even get into who has the shittier bottom feeders.
I think the competition overall in the A-10 is better than any of the leagues yall have mentioned, and their top teams are better than the top teams in the MVC, WCC, WAC, or MWC.

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"Utah and UNLV actually have the potential to make the Final Four w/o going George Mason on everyone (they've done it before)"

so has UMASS, and Temple has been to a bunch of Elite Eights but we aren't talking about how good the conference was 15 or 20 years ago now are we?

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM. Reason : .]

4/1/2009 4:25:21 PM

CUSA is fucking terrible with or without Calipari

The WAC is generally pretty weak too

The MVC always has the potential to receive an at-large bid or two

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"teams that could make the FF given the right year (UMass, Temple, St. Joe's, UNCC)"

Unless you're talking about the mid 90s (UMass) or the late 80s (Temple), the A10 (outside of Xavier maybe) would have to pull a George Mason to make it to the Final Four. And Charlotte? Really?

BCS conferences
MWC > MVC > A10
Horizon > WCC > MAC
CUSA and everyone else
MEAC, SWAC

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 4:27 PM. Reason : ]

4/1/2009 4:26:27 PM

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"dude did you forget Xavier and Dayton are in the A-10?"

d'oh, yeah, oops.

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"And Charlotte? Really?"

not talking about right now. they did make a FF in the 70s and they have the potential to do it again, likely with a new coach, though.

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM. Reason : /]

4/1/2009 4:39:41 PM

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"MWC > MVC > A10"

I really don't see how you can argue this, since Xavier has made it farther than any team in either of those other conferences the past 2 years in the tournament, and the A-10 has gotten more bids the past 2 years as well (I think the MVC, MWC and A-10 all had the same amount of bids in 2007). Also the A-10 has like 40 more bids historically than the MWC and more than twice as many as the MVC.

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 4:46 PM. Reason : .]

4/1/2009 4:41:01 PM

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"the A10 (outside of Xavier maybe) would have to pull a George Mason to make it to the Final Four"

forget St. Joe's in '04?

4/1/2009 4:45:00 PM

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"I really don't see how you can argue this, since Xavier has made it farther than any team in either of those other conferences the past 2 years"

Xavier isn't the only team in that league. Memphis didn't make the rest of CUSA any better.

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"the A-10 has gotten more bids the past 2 years as well"

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"I'd put the MVC and MWC slightly above the A10 if we're talking about the past 4-5 years."

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"forget St. Joe's in '04?"

No, I thought they only made it to the sweet 16. I guess they made it to the elite 8, but I never thought they were a real contender.

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 4:48 PM. Reason : ]

4/1/2009 4:46:58 PM

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"not talking about right now. they did make a FF in the 70s and they have the potential to do it again, likely with a new coach, though."

if you are going to cite a time when Charlotte was decent in basketball, I wouldn't pick the 70s even though that hasthe one year they made it to the FF (though that is their best showing). Id pick the 90s to early 2000s. From 1992 to 2005 they made the tournament 9/13 times with 4 of them being 2nd round appearances. 1 of them they got upset as a 5 seed in the 2nd round, and another loss was to UNC in a good game in the 2nd round. Obviously they were nothing great still, but they were at least competitive almost every year then. Now they are just pathetic.

4/1/2009 4:58:45 PM

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"Xavier isn't the only team in that league. Memphis didn't make the rest of CUSA any better."

True but I demonstrated that not only was the A-10's best team better than the best team in the leagues you mentioned but that the A-10 got more bids the past 2 years. If that doesn't make them a better conference then I don't know what does.

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"I'd put the MVC and MWC slightly above the A10 if we're talking about the past 4-5 years."

I'm too lazy to research how good the MWC and MVC were beyond 3 years ago, but I don't think either the MWC or the MVC were THAT much better than the A-10, and they would have to be to close the gap.

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 5:13 PM. Reason : . ]

4/1/2009 5:12:16 PM

Names being thrown around on the Memphis Scout.com forum:

Huggins, Pearl, Daugherty (Doherty), Isiah Thomas, Lavin, Romar

lol x6

A State fan suggested they hire Fowler (I can get behind that idea)

One guy thinks they should join the SEC or Big East

4/2/2009 4:45:44 PM

Fowler goes to Memphis, NCState hires Isaiah Thomas for AD

ultimate NCState shit

4/2/2009 4:53:51 PM

lolol

4/2/2009 4:58:51 PM