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djeternal
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And hockey players are hockey players first, and celebrities second.

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"A hockey game is just a fucking game. It is worthless."


What about the money that sports events generate for the cities they are held in? As well as providing entertainment that helps people escape from the stress of their every day lives, even if only for a couple hours.



[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM. Reason : a]

6/13/2009 11:22:19 AM

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"What about the money that sports events generate for the cities they are held in?"
That may be the only merit... and not much of one.
Although, I'd rather advocate for legalizing drugs, prostitution and gambling as sources of municipal revenue.

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"As well as providing entertainment that helps people escape from the stress of their every day lives, even if only for a couple hours."
I already said that I don't have a problem with people merely liking to watch sports... I have a problem with them being [professional] sports fanatics.... Big difference. Kinda like the difference between merely liking to watch porn and being a porn fanatic that knows all the names and practically obsesses over it with others.

6/13/2009 11:30:20 AM

djeternal
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"I'd rather advocate for legalizing drugs, prostitution and gambling as sources of municipal revenue."


I agree with you here. Why don't you put more focus on that rather than spending so much time on TWW criticizing others? You have to admit, you are pretty hypocritical in this argument.

6/13/2009 11:32:20 AM

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so you enjoy politics and all the lies and corruption that people spout off with; who give obscene amounts of money to business that don't fucking need it; and fatten their own pockets under the guise of "public service." RATHER than the guys who go out, admit they're in it for the money and entertain the populous. Am I getting all this right?

6/13/2009 11:32:25 AM

djeternal
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no he just disagrees with the way we waste time. he wants us to waste our time the same way he wastes his

by talking about all the problems our country has without actually actively doing anything about it other than blabbing on TWW

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM. Reason : a]

6/13/2009 11:33:31 AM

Dammit100
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sounds like the perfect description of a Jehovas Witness.

6/13/2009 11:34:13 AM

Vulcan91
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LOL

6/13/2009 11:38:40 AM

Spontaneous
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^^ win.

6/13/2009 12:12:37 PM

Willy Nilly
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"Why don't you put more focus on that rather than spending so much time on TWW criticizing others? You have to admit, you are pretty hypocritical in this argument."
Perhaps you're right. However, if even one person thinks about something they otherwise wouldn't have thought about, I feel that justifies a few minutes of posting. But if you were to suggest that the number of people who actually benefit from my posts isn't large enough to justify the time I spend making the posts... you might be right....

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"so you enjoy politics and all the lies and corruption that people spout off with; who give obscene amounts of money to business that don't fucking need it; and fatten their own pockets under the guise of "public service." RATHER than the guys who go out, admit they're in it for the money and entertain the populous. Am I getting all this right?"
No. I don't enjoy lies and corruption. I don't enjoy corporate welfare. I don't enjoy abuse of office. I follow politics. I am, perhaps, fanatical about political issues and happenings. That doesn't mean that I necessarily like this or that political phenomenon....

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"no he just disagrees with the way we waste time. he wants us to waste our time the same way he wastes his"

lol... I would prefer it if no one wasted too much time, but sports fanaticism is among the most worthless ways to waste time -- not to mention mental effort. If chest-painted sports fans that tour full-time so they can be at each game in person spent even half that time, energy, mental effort, and money on something worthwhile, like educating themselves, exercise, helping others, etc., then the world be a better place.

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 12:15 PM. Reason : ]

6/13/2009 12:13:36 PM

Dammit100
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so how does being condescending contribute to the betterment of society?

6/13/2009 12:46:21 PM

djeternal
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"I would prefer it if no one wasted too much time, but sports fanaticism is among the most worthless ways to waste time -- not to mention mental effort. If chest-painted sports fans that tour full-time so they can be at each game in person spent even half that time, energy, mental effort, and money on something worthwhile, like educating themselves, exercise, helping others, etc., then the world be a better place."


Now you are just blowing it out of proportion to try to prove your point. You equate a few people talking about the game on TWW to people that tour the country following their favorite sports teams. Again, your argument is not valid.

I would venture to say that everyone in this thread and in this discussion has a job, exercises regularly or at least doesn't sit on the couch all day, and has either graduated or is on target to graduate from college.

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM. Reason : a]

6/13/2009 12:47:59 PM

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OH NOES!!!!! MY TEAM LOST!!!
THIS IS SUCH A LEGITIMATE THING TO BE SAD ABOUT, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY ON IT!!!
WAAAHHHH!!

(Do these people cry when they learn about actual harms in the world? I doubt it.)

6/13/2009 1:11:41 PM

djeternal
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probably not. I am sure that sports fans only have emotion when it comes to sports, not to real world shit.

and notice that 6/7 of the pictures you posted are chicks or kids. they cry about everything. And the other one was a Cubs fan, so he is most likely gay

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 1:14 PM. Reason : a]

6/13/2009 1:13:56 PM

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6/13/2009 1:14:48 PM

Vulcan91
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Make no mistake, I would slaughter 10,000 Burmese monks for a Stanley Cup

6/13/2009 1:14:51 PM

khcadwal
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i saw this thread grew

and then i saw willy nilly was ranting about something

then i saw it was sports

now i'm leaving

6/13/2009 1:28:01 PM

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"and then i saw willy nilly was ranting about something"


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"then i saw it was sports"
I hear ya....
message_search.aspx?type=posts§ion=2&username=Willy+Nilly&usertype=match


lol
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[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 1:34 PM. Reason : ]

6/13/2009 1:30:50 PM

Vulcan91
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Little known fact: the kids in those pictures are actually crying because they just found out about the genocide in Darfur

6/13/2009 1:31:38 PM

Dammit100
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so Willy Nilly, have you (or anyone you know) ever cried in a movie? if so, I'm guessing it was b/c there was some emotional attatchment. Now, realize that many people ENJOY (which I surmise is an emotion you're incapable of experiencing) sports, particularly their favorite team. From there, imagine you've followed this team for many years, perhaps even your entire life and they've just fallen short of winning the championship after a grueling season. Hmm... emotional attatchment.

You, sir, are a douche.

6/13/2009 1:35:48 PM

mytwocents
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http://jjcrying.ytmnd.com/

6/13/2009 2:04:34 PM

djeternal
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I'm pretty sure he's wiping sweat out of his eye

6/13/2009 2:11:51 PM

Vulcan91
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http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=13961435&ch=4226720&src=news

6/13/2009 2:12:21 PM

mytwocents
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I'm pretty sure he's not.....

6/13/2009 2:14:11 PM

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"so Willy Nilly, have you (or anyone you know) ever cried in a movie? if so, I'm guessing it was b/c there was some emotional attatchment. Now, realize that many people ENJOY (which I surmise is an emotion you're incapable of experiencing) sports, particularly their favorite team. From there, imagine you've followed this team for many years, perhaps even your entire life and they've just fallen short of winning the championship after a grueling season. Hmm... emotional attatchment.

You, sir, are a douche."
No. But you, sir, are a fucking idiot.
The part you seem to miss is the attachment to a favorite team. This is bullshit. I enjoy watching some sports on occasion, but I have never had a favorite team or player. Crying because your team lost is among the fucking stupidest reasons to cry. The movie analogy is not apt. Crying over empathy from a fictional movie (assuming its' fictional, because if it's true, that's more like crying over real events,) is not even close to being comparable to this. Why the fuck would anyone have a favorite team? Because they lived there? Because they went to school there? Or is it because they like to pick the winning team? All stupid. Fucking stupid. Crying because they just fell short of winning the championship after a grueling season IS NOT A LEGITIMATE REASON TO CRY BECAUSE IT JUST A FUCKING GAME AND HAS ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING IN THE REAL WORLD.

You goddamn loser sports fanatics.

6/13/2009 2:19:29 PM

Dammit100
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"I enjoy watching some sports on occasion, but I have never had a favorite team or player."


So at least you're admitting that you have no knowledge or experience about the topic on which you're speaking. Nothing says "winner" like kicking your own supposed credibility in the balls.

6/13/2009 2:24:13 PM

GenghisJohn
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^^aahahahaha

i can't believe this guy is serious

and who are you to judge how others spend their time?

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM. Reason : .]

6/13/2009 2:24:19 PM

Vulcan91
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"Why the fuck would anyone have a favorite team? Because they lived there? Because they went to school there? Or is it because they like to pick the winning team? All stupid. Fucking stupid. Crying because they just fell short of winning the championship after a grueling season IS NOT A LEGITIMATE REASON TO CRY BECAUSE IT JUST A FUCKING GAME AND HAS ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING IN THE REAL WORLD.

You goddamn loser sports fanatics."


u mad?

6/13/2009 2:30:07 PM

Ernie
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Every crying picture Willy Nilly posted was a girl or an 11 year old. Cubs dude isn't crying. I thought this might be important.

6/13/2009 2:30:08 PM

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"So at least you're admitting that you have no knowledge or experience about the topic on which you're speaking. Nothing says "winner" like kicking your own supposed credibility in the balls."
I don't have any knowledge or experience about plenty of topics, but that in no way limits my credibility to condemn them. I've never raped or killed, so how do I really know it's wrong? Only those with experience raping and killing have any credibility to comment on it.

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"and who are you to judge how others spend their time?"
No, you're right. No one should ever judge anyone else by their actions or priorities. Ever.

6/13/2009 2:37:21 PM

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rule 34?

6/13/2009 2:38:15 PM

Ernie
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The fact that you have to mention rape and murder in a sports discussion makes me think you might be a fucking moron.

6/13/2009 2:38:51 PM

Dammit100
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^winner winner, chicken mother fuckin dinner

6/13/2009 2:40:28 PM

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6/13/2009 2:40:57 PM

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"The fact that you have to mention rape and murder in a sports discussion makes me think you might be a fucking moron"
The fact that you think that merely because I mentioned something necessarily means that I had to mention it makes me think you might be a fucking moron.
I'll pick a different one:
I've never had 14 kids on welfare, so how do I really know it's wrong? Only those with experience having 14 kids on welfare have any credibility to comment on it.
(You fail.)

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"winner winner, chicken mother fuckin dinner"
Except nothing in that post made any sense at all. He suggested that having merely mentioned something equates to having to had mention it. Stupid. (And so are you for calling it win.)

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 2:49 PM. Reason : ]

6/13/2009 2:43:08 PM

Ernie
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You could argue the inanity of sports a little less obnoxiously and I could maybe see where you're coming from, though I'd still disagree with you. Either way, you're doing it on the motherfucking Wolf Web and I'm not surprised you don't find the irony in that.

6/13/2009 2:47:59 PM

Willy Nilly
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^
Yeah, I guess there's a bit of irony to it....

6/13/2009 2:48:36 PM

Ernie
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Postscript:

The fact that you interpreted my use of the verb "have" to mean that you were somehow uncontrollably forced to mention rape and murder solidifies my theory that you are a fucking moron.

6/13/2009 2:51:52 PM

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6/13/2009 2:55:57 PM

Dammit100
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step one in convincing others: don't outright attack them.

6/13/2009 2:57:55 PM

Willy Nilly
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^^^
Welcome to the english language.
"The fact that you have to mention rape and murder..." ≠ "The fact that you mention rape and murder..."
(You fail.... again.)


^
Yeah, I know.
I'm not an effective persuader -- but admittedly, condemnation was a higher priority for me here than persuasion.

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 3:04 PM. Reason : ]

6/13/2009 2:59:13 PM

Ernie
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6/13/2009 3:16:30 PM

Dammit100
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condemnation rather than persuasion? you don't listen to Sean Hannity do you?

6/13/2009 3:16:40 PM

Willy Nilly
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^
No. Is that the guy who was on 20/20 the other night?
Never mind -- I was thinking of Glenn Beck.
I don't listen to any conservative talk radio.

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM. Reason : ]

6/13/2009 3:26:18 PM

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6/13/2009 3:30:31 PM

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Politicians are important, B.



Get MAF in the Secret Service ASAP, G.

6/13/2009 3:35:28 PM

Vulcan91
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hahahaha

All I could think of after he did that was Clint Eastwood at the end of "In the Line of Fire"

6/13/2009 3:39:23 PM

DeltaBeta
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I bet Willy Nilly is a real blast to hang out with.

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 3:49 PM. Reason : *]

6/13/2009 3:49:11 PM

Willy Nilly
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^
Haven't you said that before?
And didn't I already explain that online personalities are sometimes very different than personalities in real life?
If I, in real life, were half as negative as Willy Nilly, I'd agree....

6/13/2009 4:00:24 PM

DeltaBeta
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So you're a complete troll then.

Got it. Very brave of you to seperate your personas. Question though. Which one is the real you? Are you the completely miserable fuckstick who just supresses enough of that to not get your ass kicked in real life? Or are you really a decent person who likes to rile others up on the internet? Wait, a decent person wouldn't like to rile other's up on the internet.

I just answered my own question. Have a great life.

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 4:30 PM. Reason : *]

6/13/2009 4:29:41 PM

GenghisJohn
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so there are some hot bitches in the 1981 Miracle on Ice

6/13/2009 5:03:14 PM

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