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"when you tip you are paying the wages for an employee of a company, in all reality the employee should be paid by the company, not the customer. granted in the U.S. waitstaff's salary isnt that much, ($2 something/hr) but that should change. in the U.K. bartenders, waitstaff, taxi drivers are some of the highest paid people, and no one tips. bartenders make something around $25 to $30 an hour, some manager/bartender can make as much as $60 an hour."

In Germany where tipping is not the status quo the service I got was utterly lackluster. It ranged from the, took 15 minutes to realize you had sat down at a table to forgot to come back after the food was delivered until you flagged down some other poor guy who had his own tables to manage to try and get your bill.

6/18/2009 12:26:14 PM

^trueeee

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 12:28 PM. Reason : i mean look how many people are slacking off at work now....]

6/18/2009 12:27:11 PM

Quote :

"a downfall with the salary system as opposed to the tip system, is that the service you get will degrade over time. the service in the U.K. generally sucks, but there are work arounds for that too."

6/18/2009 12:28:26 PM

Not once did i ever have bad service while i was in France.

Perhaps the French culture is just more service oriented than Britain or Germany.

6/18/2009 12:29:21 PM

two pages already? Seriously?

6/18/2009 12:29:44 PM

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"what I hate is...at some places like I Love NY Pizza, where it's not really fast food but there aren't waiters/waitresses either, when I order my food at the cash register and pay with a credit card there's a little line on the receipt for me to put in a tip fuck that, you get NO tip in those circumstances"

i strikeout that part. some places do it for me. I Love NY pizza has been SUPER sketch at times, so it's not worth the risk.

Playin with my money is like playin with my emotions.

6/18/2009 12:29:47 PM

take out = no tip... which is the whole reason of doing take out.

also, i hate when im out with friends who are servers, who put bullshit pressure on me to tip more, when im already tipping fairly.

also at sushi blues with large parties, they add the tip on already and have a line for additional tip. screw that. you added my 18% and thats where it ends.

6/18/2009 12:31:56 PM

I feel very strongly that tipping is the thing to do, if not necessarily the right thing to do. But I'm keeping an open mind here.

Are there certain types of wait service that maybe deserve tipping where others don't, or deserve less of a tip? The barista question intrigued me. Bartender, barista, waiter, delivery guy, who falls where?

6/18/2009 12:34:03 PM

I don't drink coffee and don't get food delivered, so those two really don't affect me.

Wait staff: 25-30%
Bartenders: completely depends on how well i know/like you. can be anywhere from $1/drink to 50%+

6/18/2009 12:35:56 PM

^^^how fuckin rude is it to look at what someone is paying


my momma raised me not to stick my nose in peoples business, as in not looking at their bill, not ASKING about someone elses bill, not comparing bills, and not looking over shoulders to see how much people are tipping

im sorry, but todays society is getting much too brash and class is lacking

somebody puts cash on the table, i turn my head away, i dont even look at it its not my fuckin business

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM. Reason : td]

6/18/2009 12:37:35 PM

and mawle what if you go to a coffee place and get a delicious smoothie

6/18/2009 12:39:30 PM

More obvious trolling from LittleHitSunday

6/18/2009 12:41:45 PM

What the fuck, FroshKiller? Didn't you work at Sonic one time and complain about the lack of tips you received there?

6/18/2009 12:48:48 PM

these threads are great on here because a lot of the posters have worked in the service industry

if tipping were to be removed and higher wages put in place - cost of food would go up

6/18/2009 12:49:38 PM

^^^^ Do i look like the kinda guy who knows what cock tastes like?

I don't fuckin drink smoothies.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 12:51 PM. Reason : ^]

6/18/2009 12:50:51 PM

^^^ i don't tip at sonic because all they do is walk my food out to my car. also they get paid a regular hourly wage.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 12:51 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2009 12:50:59 PM

30%?

are you guys eating at mcdonalds?

6/18/2009 12:52:48 PM

I worked at Sonic for much of high school and a few years after, but I was a cook, not a carhop. I did carhop from time to time, but I was making regular pay on those shifts, so I didn't really care about the tipping.

What you should take from this, dyne, is that carhops were paid, like, $2.50/hour at the time, which is bullshit.

This one time, though, these two girls who were high as hell tipped me, like, twelve of those gold Sacagawea dollars.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 12:55 PM. Reason : I also worked with Kellie Pickler!!1]

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 12:55 PM. Reason : CALLED OUT]

6/18/2009 12:54:23 PM

^^Last night i went to get some food and a few beers. My tab was 14.23, i tipped 5.77, made it an even $20. Now that I think about it, i don't think i got charged for a couple of my beers.

6/18/2009 1:00:23 PM

You stingy fuckers are the reason people can't get ahead.

6/18/2009 1:02:10 PM

I hate feeling obligated to tip because of wait staff salaries and status quo.

6/18/2009 1:02:52 PM

What I want to know from anyone who has worked in the service industry is are there any demographics or groups who consistently tip poorly?

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 1:09 PM. Reason : to keep the trollbait comin']

6/18/2009 1:09:08 PM

canadians! but i haven't ever worked in the service industry

6/18/2009 1:09:44 PM

I, too worked in food service and I also know how easy it is, or rather how hard it is to fuck up. so if my order gets screwed up the tip usually goes cliff diving...but i always tip. I dont tip badly if it takes awhile for the food to come out cause thats the kitchens fault.

I also tip on how well the waitress acts, but i think most people do that anyway

6/18/2009 1:09:45 PM

I, too woeked in food service and I also know how easy it is, or rather how hard it is to fuck up. so if my order gets screwed up the tip usually goes cliff diving...but i always tip. I dont tip badly if it takes awhile for the food to come out cause thats the kitchens fault.

I also tip on how well the waitress acts but i figure most people do

:Ive had to retype this like 6 fucking times. Stupid phone

6/18/2009 1:13:01 PM

theres a huge difference between tipping with a card and telling them to keep the change.

6/18/2009 1:14:46 PM

i always pay with card as much as possible because its much easier to tip with it.

6/18/2009 1:17:36 PM

My mother is a barista, and she said that she gets maybe two tips per 4-7 hour shift.

She works in a family owned business not Starfucks or something.

6/18/2009 1:56:15 PM

man does your mom work at leapin' lizards

6/18/2009 1:57:04 PM

I hate when there is a tip line on a check at a place like Moe's. You almost feel like you have to...but I don't

6/18/2009 1:57:57 PM

6/18/2009 2:00:03 PM

20% normally, even more if they deserve it, nothing if they really suck.

6/18/2009 2:19:03 PM

I'm usually pretty generous, just because i know there are some cheap fuckers out there. And if the service is bad, I'm not at all gracious. If the kitchen is fucking up or they're just busy, I understand completely. But if you're rude, or just not present at all, bye bye tip.

6/18/2009 2:21:02 PM

i usually dont tip when im eating that crap eastern nc bbq, but when im eating that western red sauce style i will tip > %35

6/18/2009 2:21:46 PM

^
Yeah, well, I only tip if they allow smoking.

6/18/2009 2:26:05 PM

i had mexican for lunch today. my waiter was about 40 punds overweight and i think he was a gay mexican. service was ok, i tipped $2 on $5. i am such a pussy

6/18/2009 2:30:53 PM

Quote :

"when you go to a coffee shop, do you tip the barista? I've never been sure of the etiquette on that. I mean if you think about it they're often doing as much/more work than a bartender. But in my casual observations I don't see it done very often."

I can't tell you how much it annoys a real barista (meaning the king that actually tamp the espresso, etc, not just push a button) off when yall don't tip. Although, I don't think it's something that deserves a percentage.. but damn, throw a dollar or your extra change in the tip jar please! It goes a long way, trust me. It's also not something you can just learn all about in one day, and if you have a picky manager, everything has to be perfect down to the timing of the shot of espresso, or the exact temperature of the milk.

Plus, it would piss me off when some housewife would come in asking for a stupid complicated drink and not even give me a damn dollar.

I want to add that I would get genuinely pissed off when a rich bitch or snobby guy would stroll in and order a ridiculous crepe (we made them from scratch) and a ridiculous drink then not tip jack shit.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2009 2:42:00 PM

sometimes i dont feel like waiting for change so i tip way too much. i ate at TGI Fridays a couple weeks ago with one other person and I think it was like ~$25-26. I gave her $40 and said keep it because I didn't have change

6/18/2009 2:46:51 PM

Quote :

"i usually dont tip when im eating that crap eastern nc bbq, but when im eating that western red sauce style i will tip > %35"

YOU SON OF A BITCH

6/18/2009 2:51:25 PM

I always tip waiters generously - at least 20%.

What I'd like to know is who makes a decent wage and who needs the extra tip to make ends meet. Sometimes it just isn't clear - like at the pet groomer. Do they get paid a decent wage or do they make less under the assumption that they will recieve tips? What about the starbucks baristas? Don't they make good money or do they really need the tip money? I do tip the car wash dudes (I figure they can't make much), but I always forget about general service people until after the fact (and often don't have cash on hand to give).

And my hair dresser - she's the owner, so should I not tip her? I always have, but maybe I'm just handing out money that I should be holding onto.

6/18/2009 4:01:40 PM

6/18/2009 4:02:02 PM

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"Convince me to stop tipping waiters & waitresses"

All waiters and waitresses are anti-semitic and read Mein Kampf daily.
All of them.

Don't tip the fascist assholes.

6/18/2009 4:03:15 PM

i wish host people got paid more

6/18/2009 4:09:14 PM

I base my tips on this basic formula

normal service (baseline) 20%

if someone is hurrying to get in and out, 20% covers normal time.

let's use Ruby Tuesday's as an example. For a party of two to sit and eat, it takes about 30 minutes from the time they sit down, to the time they leave. This 30-mins to me is worth the 20% tip. If i was in a larger party, for every 30 additional minutes, the tip goes up 10% for GOOD service.

So if the wait staff did a good job, for an hour long dinner at a normal restaurant, 30%.

Usually, the nicer the restaurant, the more expensive the food, the longer it takes. Use the same logic.

Ruth's Chris usually takes about an hour. So: 1-hour = 20%, 2-hours = 30%, and so on.

Bars tend to be a little different.

I tip $1 per drink as a baseline, which usually works out to 20%. If I know the server/bartender/barmaid, I might tip as much as 50% or more.

Remember, when you are sitting in their section for longer than necessary, you are an opportunity cost to them and you require more work, so one should tip more.

For bad service, I tip 10%...but it has to be REALLY bad. Messed up the order...never refilled the drinks....etc.



At the barber shop, if the owner of the shop cuts my hair and there is no-one else working, i tip $2 on $13. If the other chick is working that day, I do not tip, cuz he is making money off of the fact that she is cutting hair.

If someone other than the owner is cutting my hair, I tip the same rate as before, $2 on $13.


For pizza delivery, I tip a dollar or two if there is a delivery charge, 25% if there is not.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2009 4:38:47 PM

i usually dont tip when im eating that crap western red sauce style, but when im eating that eastern nc bbq i will tip > %35



[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 4:42 PM. Reason : g]

6/18/2009 4:41:15 PM

that's because western style bbq fucks with your brain and causes you to make stupid decisions.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 4:46 PM. Reason : Bill Ellis tips me in banana pudding.]

6/18/2009 4:45:29 PM

It's pretty easy, I just tip multiples of the tax starting at 2x. I can't remember the last time I gave a $0 tip, but I understand the difference between being busy and being a fucktard.

6/18/2009 4:48:33 PM