No, it's not wrong, you just haven't ever learned a single true thing about the subject. Rather, you have obviously been blindsided by religious propaganda. Well, your alter-ego that you're using to troll has been,rather. The thing is, while (I think) you're joking, you're repeating dangerously incorrect idiocy that far too many people think is true. Therefore, I still feel the need to explain.

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"In biology, evolution is the change in the genetic material of a population of organisms from one generation to the next. Though the changes produced in any one generation are small, differences accumulate with each generation and can, over time, cause substantial changes in the organisms. This process can culminate in the emergence of new species.[1] Indeed, the similarities between organisms suggest that all known species are descended from a common ancestor (or ancestral gene pool) through this process of gradual divergence.[2] The basis of evolution is the genes that are passed on from generation to generation; these produce an organism's inherited traits. These traits vary within populations, with organisms showing heritable differences (variation) in their traits. Evolution itself is the product of two opposing forces: processes that constantly introduce variation, and processes that make variants become more common or rare. New variation arises in two main ways: either from mutations in genes, or from the transfer of genes between populations and between species. In species that reproduce sexually, new combinations of genes are also produced by genetic recombination, which can increase variation between organisms. Two major mechanisms determine which variants will become more common or rare in a population. One is natural selection, a process that causes helpful traits (those that increase the chance of survival and reproduction) to become more common in a population and causes harmful traits to become more rare. This occurs because individuals with advantageous traits are more likely to reproduce, meaning that more individuals in the next generation will inherit these traits.[2][3] Over many generations, adaptations occur through a combination of successive, small, random changes in traits, and natural selection of the variants best-suited for their environment.[4] The other major mechanism driving evolution is genetic drift, an independent process that produces random changes in the frequency of traits in a population. Genetic drift results from the role that chance plays in whether a given trait will be passed on as individuals survive and reproduce."

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[Edited on June 22, 2009 at 5:27 PM. Reason : .]

6/22/2009 5:26:02 PM

so survival of the fittest isn't in the discussion when talking about evolution? Shut the fuck up. I will not let some peon such as yourself troll the shit out of me in my own thread. Move along please, ASSHOLE.

6/22/2009 5:29:24 PM

im teh ghey and i still want to have chirrins.

6/22/2009 5:44:07 PM

^ oh that's natural. Gays have sex with the opposite sex all the time despite how much they hate it, although they are born attracted to the same sex. It has been proven in this thread. There are fucking geniuses on the subject matter in this thread.

6/22/2009 5:45:48 PM

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"Over many generations, adaptations occur through a combination of successive, small, random changes in traits, and natural selection of the variants best-suited for their environment."

Wouldn't this be, by definition, survival of the fittest or at least, "survival of those above the minimum level of fitness"? I mean, we're not saying it is the survival of the perfect, simply that those organisms best able (or fit) to reproduce, do so. If the evolutionary pressures are low, then that range is broad, if competition for food and mating opportunities is high, then the bar is raised considerably.

Seems a bit of, arguably important, semantics to me.

6/22/2009 5:46:53 PM

hmm.. seems the only thing evolving in this thread is the very definition of evolution. Evolving to fit the needs of proponents of homosexuality or evolution.

6/22/2009 5:55:48 PM

Let's put it this way, if all that was left in the world was gays and lesbians, the human race wouldn't die, they could and most likely would reproduce and then you would have heterosexual people again

6/22/2009 6:16:58 PM

6/22/2009 6:24:02 PM

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"Let's put it this way, if all that was left in the world was gays and lesbians, the human race wouldn't die, they could and most likely would reproduce and then you would have heterosexual people again"

oh okay, I'll take your word for it.

6/22/2009 6:29:34 PM

just like in Jurassic park when the frog dna made all the dinosaurs simultaneously change gender

you can't pass on what you dont pass on. thats pretty simple people

6/22/2009 6:38:52 PM

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"Wouldn't this be, by definition, survival of the fittest or at least, "survival of those above the minimum level of fitness"?"

You have to read what I said at first to understand this completely. For a more clear idea, read the original theory. "On The Origin Of Species" is, surprisingly, a pretty accessible and easy read. It's long and dense but not complicated, since in Darwin's time, genetics wasn't really known of yet.

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"Evolutionary changes can be good, bad, or neutral for an organism. The species that is the most fit often survives the longest to reproduce, yes, but evolution can (and has) created many problems for species and caused them to change in a different way or die. "

So "survival of the fittest" isn't what drives evolutionary changes, it's the result of evolutionary changes. What causes the changes are (almost always random) mutations that are themselves caused by a load of different factors.

Plus, I don't know if you guys have noticed, but gay people don't always have gay children, and gay children don't always come from gay parents. In fact, it seems that on its face, neither of these are very likely.

In other words, assuming it's 100% genetic (and I think there's no definitive answer on what percentage of homosexuality is genetic and what percentage is based on environment), it must skip at least 1 generation, more likely it skips multiple generations. Therefore, there wouldn't be a very likely scenario in which everyone was gay. To summarize the summary - evolution has provided an answer to this question as well.



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6/22/2009 6:48:27 PM

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" Plus, I don't know if you guys have noticed, but gay people don't always have gay children, and gay children don't always come from gay parents. In fact, it seems that on its face, neither of these are very likely"

so a truly gay person would have to have sex with the opposite sex to have children. Are they not truly gay then? They must not be born gay right? Man on man sex and woman on woman sex does not produce children. I suggest you take a biology class.

[Edited on June 22, 2009 at 6:57 PM. Reason : []

6/22/2009 6:56:49 PM

I absolutely hate the term "survival of the fittest". You might as well say "I don't know jack shit about evolution hyuck hyuck!"

6/22/2009 7:27:02 PM

6/22/2009 7:35:19 PM

I know, but this kind is particularly tempting.

6/22/2009 7:42:46 PM

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"I absolutely hate the term "survival of the fittest"."

why is that? Is this term no longer accepted when discussing evolution? Obviously this phrase has completely been squashed and now you result to stereotyping people with opposing ideas to get your agenda across. Liberal tactics at there finest. I bet you voted for Barack and the stimulus package. Guess what, your taxes are going up asshole.



[Edited on June 22, 2009 at 7:46 PM. Reason : .]

6/22/2009 7:43:04 PM

I think Hitler was into the whole survival of the fittest thing. If it is ok for him, I am sure that phrase is ok for you.


[Edited on June 22, 2009 at 7:49 PM. Reason : Godwin's Law in two. check mate]

6/22/2009 7:47:02 PM

I'm goin' full blown chit chat on this motherfucker

Oh no, not... TAXES!

6/22/2009 7:54:42 PM

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"why is that? Is this term no longer accepted when discussing evolution?"

it's an oversimplification that is likely to be taken out of context and misunderstood or intentionally misconstrued.

kind of like what you're doing.....


Typical of evolution deniers - they don't actually understand what they're arguing against, so most of their arguments are based on false premises anyway, making them impossible to refute without backing up and starting a whole biology lesson from the top.

6/22/2009 7:55:30 PM

Yea the most evil person in modern history believed in evolution. What's your point? I realize that it's real convenient for some of you to accept the theory of evolution. It's the hip, fat, lazy thing to do to justify your deviant behavior. Being held accountable for your decisions isn't something you want to consider, as it is a great inconvenience to your homosexual tendencies.

^ so the theory of evolution has evolved to fit an agenda? NO WAY!

[Edited on June 22, 2009 at 8:00 PM. Reason : []

6/22/2009 7:57:39 PM

nope, the theory of evolution has evolved to encompass any and all new scientific knowledge - some old ideas have been proven wrong and thrown out, new ideas are added when the evidence is sufficient.

As opposed to the most popular alternative: Creationism, which hasn't changed its tune in 2000 years, regardless of the advancements of science and the the vast amounts of information known now but not when the idea was first written down.

6/22/2009 8:06:02 PM

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"Creationism, which hasn't changed its tune in 2000 years, regardless of the advancements of science and the the vast amounts of information known now but not when the idea was first written down."

Right. There hasn't been a need to, regardless of these scientific advancements and vast amounts of information known now. It's a strong alternative theory that science has not technically been able to disprove. If you have absolute proof against creationism please present it now.. until then you are only fulfilling the prophesy of the Bible that the Christian religion will be ridiculed and persecuted by men who claim to have vast knowledge.

[Edited on June 22, 2009 at 8:13 PM. Reason : []

6/22/2009 8:12:17 PM

Holy hell
What an awful troll.

6/22/2009 8:15:43 PM

Oh I know why you came in here. To throw your weight around. You are upset that Christianity condemns gluttonous people. You're fat and a homosexual. This thread must really push your buttons.

[Edited on June 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM. Reason : []

6/22/2009 8:19:11 PM

i think they added trolling as the 8th deadly sin.

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6/22/2009 8:29:13 PM

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6/22/2009 8:34:37 PM

THAT IS A WICKED SWEET PIC

6/22/2009 8:43:10 PM