why should a male know how to change a tire and it's totally okay for a woman to not?

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 4:19 PM. Reason : loller copz]

7/16/2009 4:19:07 PM

^^lol


But seriously, I REGUARD them as shitty cops

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 4:19 PM. Reason : ^]

7/16/2009 4:19:45 PM

Yes, I'll admit that I think ALL GUYS should know how to change a tire. That's just part of having a set of balls as far as I'm concerned.

BUT, I'd have helped him change it if he didnt know how. The difference is, I'd expect him to know how to change one next time.

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM. Reason : .]

7/16/2009 4:19:50 PM

THATS a good cop.

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 4:24 PM. Reason : He'd have helped that lady change her tire]

7/16/2009 4:24:41 PM

THATS a fictional cop

7/16/2009 4:25:09 PM

And THAT


Is the problem

7/16/2009 4:25:41 PM

^^BULLSHIT

I bet you're gonna say the Easter Bunny isnt real either, too...right? RIGHT?



[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 4:30 PM. Reason : ^^]

7/16/2009 4:26:33 PM

7/16/2009 4:28:51 PM

Cop or no cop... Uniform or no uniform people should help because they care and because its the good thing to do.
I figured when tnezami stated that he didn't do it was because he was dressed in business attire. I am not sure of the rules involved with helping someone change a tire but in the least bit if I were an officer, I would take my badge off and put my gun down and helped the poor girl or least say something to the effect of "If I were not on duty I would help you, but maybe so-and so can" and point to tnezami. I wouldn't leave her hanging there...

But I thought this thread was about cops that that don't follow the law, and in that case, I have seen on many occasions...

7/16/2009 4:36:50 PM

put his badge and gun down, seriously?

its a liability issue, what if the cop strips the bolts using an improperly fitted wrench or somethin?

7/16/2009 4:39:39 PM

It is not a liability issue. Thats a bullshit excuse to not help someone.

You couldn't even take the cost of those bolts to small claims court, so you're gonna need to back up the "liability issue" card before you throw it around as a reason to not do things.



I'm gonna stab myself with a pencil one day and then sue NCSU for giving me the homework that required me to use a pencil that I ended up stabbing myself with because "they required the homework to be done in pencil"

7/16/2009 4:44:13 PM

what if just anyone does that.. I think tnezami was trying to say that those cops could have made some caring attempt to acknowledge this girl's problem.

And no (as I already mentioned) I don't the rules in terms of cops helping people. But regardless I would have helped in some way if I were a cop whether it be to call someone or look for someone to help.

Also... I would think some receiving help is not going to take someone to court over something like that if someone offers to help. She could sign a waiver with a witness or something.

I had campus security help me get my keys out and I had to sign some waiver.

Theres always a way to keep yourself safe terms of the legal system

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM. Reason : asdf]

7/16/2009 4:46:56 PM

so you sympathize with tamim not jumping at the opportunity so he doesnt dirty up his khakis?

7/16/2009 4:47:55 PM

Who the hell is Tamim?

7/16/2009 4:49:03 PM

oops


i thought she used his real name

7/16/2009 4:49:46 PM

Well I am not sure who he works for but it may be an issue if he were to get dirty. Companies can be anal about their image. I am sure he would have offered to help first thing if he wasn't heading back to work. But he DID end up changing the tire anyways.

7/16/2009 4:53:01 PM

Quote :

"why should a male know how to change a tire and it's totally okay for a woman to not?"

B/c you have to be a complete idiot to not know how to change a tire. So a man should be able to change a tire. Now in a woman's case she might not be strong enough (or would feel too exposed) to handle the job on her own. In the rare instance that you're driving someone else's car maybe you wouldn't be familiar with the tools. But if its your car you should have the foresight to know what the hell you're doing.

In my life so far I've had one flat, and have also helped change (or change myself) a flat for 2-3 friends. Also, unless the car's absolutely filthy you shouldn't get too dirty.

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 5:00 PM. Reason : []

7/16/2009 4:59:59 PM

Not related to the actual content of the OP, but I, too, have lost all respect for Law Enforcement. That was years ago though

7/16/2009 5:07:52 PM

Dude, I got ridiculously nasty. (solid black hands and had to drive all the way back to RTP without touching anything, lol)

Jillene's absolutely right. I hesitated because I WAS in a freakin khaki colored suit and had to meet with the president of my company this afternoon. He's a cool guy and would have understood if I was a little dirty, but it's not the image I want to represent myself as when I'm already half everyone else's age around here (avg age at my company is 55....no shit). I've gotta fight to get respect.

Chris, stop being a douchetard.


[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 5:15 PM. Reason : .]

7/16/2009 5:11:25 PM

When you only have seconds, cops are minutes away

7/16/2009 5:13:14 PM

Quote :

"so we should hold cops to a higher standard for simply doing their jobs?"

yes...i hold cops to a higher standard than everyday citizens

Quote :

"wreckless"

it's reckless, you cum dumpster.

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM. Reason : .]

7/16/2009 5:26:28 PM

i agree with the previous description of why all men can change a tire. generally they are strong enough to and it is redonkulously easy (conceptually at least).

id never had a flat or been with someone who had a flat until i was 24 or so. my gf at the time got a flat. i got my weak ass 130lbs self out and put some muscle into it with few issues (i also had to jump on the damn thing like gunzz said, but mine came loose).

7/16/2009 5:50:23 PM

Quote :

"Not sit on the highway with a radar detector and give out tickets (which is all I see them doing)"

Just because you are apparently functionally retarded and don't see them doing things other than running radar doesn't mean that they don't spend most of their time doing other things. Good for you, you don't have to spend much time in high crime areas. Call the Raleigh PD and request a ride along one evening in SE Raleigh. Tell those guys that they don't do anything but issue traffic citations.

7/16/2009 6:05:40 PM

Diffusion of responsibilty

7/16/2009 6:34:19 PM

Quote :

"B/c you have to be a complete idiot to not know how to change a tire. So a man should be able to change a tire. Now in a woman's case she might not be strong enough (or would feel too exposed) to handle the job on her own."

meh, i still see no reason to fault the officers for not doing something that is not their job and that there is no reason for a woman to not know how to do


~

7/16/2009 6:51:10 PM

^if you're referring to my quote (which would make sense) you'll see that I don't say a woman shouldn't know how to.

7/16/2009 8:51:58 PM

Quote :

"Call the Raleigh PD and request a ride along one evening in SE Raleigh"

can you really do this?

7/16/2009 8:56:12 PM

^yes

7/16/2009 9:03:42 PM

this single incident definitely justifies hating all police officers.

then you motherfuckers wonder why you never get out of tickets.

here's a news flash for you chief. you never get out of tickets because you have a chip on your shoulder when you get pulled over. chalk that one up to your "i hate cops" mentality before you post a thread on TWW about how the man screwed you over after your next speeding ticket.

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 9:06 PM. Reason : a]

7/16/2009 9:05:15 PM

If you're a tax payer, you should be glad they didn't help. Volunteer vehicle maintenance such as changing a flat is a trap for litigation, it has happened before and it's why they won't do it.

That said, it was nice of you to put your neck out there. Good thing everything went well. Unlike that time I tried to help a lady by changing her tire after she had a blowout because a Barnhill truck driver (never got any numbers or I would have pushed as hard as I could to have them fired) was speeding, and unsafely passed a tractor causing me to have to slam on the breaks and leave the road and the family behind me did the same but blew out their front right in the process. Her doughnut was already blown out from excessive use, sitting in some puddle of fluid. Her front-right was already in the belts anyhow (wonder it hadn't blown out before) and now freshly blown out. She didn't have a lug wrench, so I used mine. Was ready to jack up her car and realized that her jack wouldn't build pressure because the plug had come out and the fluid drained into the spare tire well. I only had a bottle jack that in no way in hell would fit under her car. A nice old man came buy with his nephew in a pickup and sent him off for a jack and I dug out a shelf under the car to fit the floor jack. The nephew came back with a jack and I took the wheel off. Some of the lady's family showed up and I was off once they had I ride and someone to take them into town for a tire.

I still want to cause that Barnhill driver pain If anything had happened, such as one of the rampant youngins' knocking the car off the jack and shot through the floor of the car, I would have probably been liable.

So, it's not an officer's job to change tires, jump batteries, or assume excessive liability to property that the City would have to pay for. And how did this thread go south so fast?

7/16/2009 9:40:48 PM

I assume that the chick was not hot, which explains everything.

7/16/2009 11:05:35 PM

You shouldn't have a car if you don't know how to change a flat. Strength is one thing, but you have to at least know how to do it!!!!

7/16/2009 11:27:24 PM

The original poster is completely correct in his assessment.

Maybe the cops aren't allowed to do anything directly. But, they could have/should have at the very least offered to call AAA, a tow truck, something along those lines. Simply remaining silent and ignoring someone actually in need is a violation of their ethical duties.

I have been an officer in the military for nearly 12 years now. I work on submarines and with nuclear power, which in no way implies that I have any more or less responsibility to "normal" everyday people. However you can bet your ass off that myself, and the vast majority of the people in my position hold themselves to a higher standard when it comes to situations like the one the OP presented.

Cops have the ability to arrest people with little to no reason (and yes we've all seen this), write bullshit speeding tickets, and pretty much harrass the shit out of people, and let's face it, many (not all) of them do. It would be nice, and should be expected, of a person wearing a uniform that represented either a county or a state, that they would provide positive support to a citizen in need. For a group of men who's number one job descriptor is "to protect and serve" to remain absolutely silent while a citizen was in need is pathetic, regardless of whetehr they were on or off duty, or in or out of uniform.

7/17/2009 1:09:04 AM

fuck the police

until they allow you to pull off the highway at the next exit to ensure safety, i will not think they are being rational.

too many faggots are killed through roadside hits while standing at carside windows.

safety does not elude the elite popos

7/17/2009 1:21:33 AM

they are police officers

not AAA

7/17/2009 1:22:23 AM

they will pull your ass on a 70 mph highway to collect your $texas

but they won't help you on a 70 mph highway when they don't have to

they are going to work harder to get your money - and why not?

i am scared of a layoff and so are they.

7/17/2009 1:24:25 AM

I've had cops help me when I've had flat tires/other reasons I'm on the side of the road. This woman obviously wasn't hot enough or didn't have big enough boobs

7/17/2009 1:35:42 AM

Somewhat related to the OP: My car broke down on a main road in a small town that I live in. Wheels were locked up, so it wouldn't roll. I knew it had been having some transmission troubles, but it was something to do with the torque converter, and if I knew if I gave it a few minutes it would probably run for at least a minute, allowing me to get off the road. So I killed it, put on the hazards and waited. Several people stopped and offered to help, two finally helped me slide my car off the road. During the time it took for all that to happen (~10 minutes) two cops stopped, didn't offer help, didn't offer a ride, didn't offer use of a phone or anything. Just yelled at me for being on the road. Assholes

7/17/2009 1:44:46 AM

I've had a cop stop and offer to help when I had a flat tire. The fact that you would have "lost all respect" for the police because of this one incident is pretty god damn retarded, though.

7/17/2009 4:08:48 AM

i, too, hate all members of a particular profession because the actions of some are obviously indicative of the profession as a whole

oh, wait...

7/17/2009 7:55:58 AM

Quote :

"I know there are good officers out there, but c'mon. That's just plain sorry. "

I'm guessing everyone missed this part. I KNOW that not all cops are douchebags. I have a few friends who are police officers and they're A+ people.

I was just stunned that not a SINGLE ONE even so much as lifted a brow to her.

And to answer the question, she was actually pretty damn cute. Woulda asked her out if I didnt have a gf.

7/17/2009 8:30:04 AM

you say:

Quote :

"I've lost all respect for Law Enforcement"

and then

Quote :

"I KNOW that not all cops are douchebags. I have a few friends who are police officers and they're A+ people."

so which is it? fwiw, i'm not really being a douche...i've never met a bad cop, and i've gotten almost 10 speeding tickets in my life...i hear all these horror stories about how all cops are power-tripping assholes, but that's not my experience

i try not to use statements like you used as your title unless they're actually true (which, apparently, they're not in your case)...the fact is, yeah, one of them "should" have stepped up and helped, but NO MORE or NO LESS than YOU "should" have...getting a paycheck from the taxpayers does not automatically make them AAA, so turning this one instance into an "i hate law enforcement!" rant speaks more about your biased personal feelings than the "duties" of city employees

i really do agree with you, for the most part...regardless of what you think, though, it most certainly is NOT their JOB to change a person's tire...it is the self-imposed "duty" of every decent human being to help out those who need help...you helped her and that makes your actions decent and good...they did not help her and that makes them lazy douchebags...but their douchebaggery is independent of their profession

7/17/2009 9:10:25 AM

My general perception of cops is that if a cop comes across a scenario where there's a baby lying in the middle of a street and there's a car parked on the side of a road with an expired inspection, he will ignore the baby and write up a citation for the car.

If the baby is still alive when he's done, he'll probably then write the baby a ticket for jaywalking.

I do not believe cops are, in general, good people. Good ones are the exception, not the rule.

7/17/2009 9:34:04 AM

Q: What's worse than a cop?

A: Nothing.

7/17/2009 10:05:51 AM

Quote :

"My general perception of cops is that if a cop comes across a scenario where there's a baby lying in the middle of a street and there's a car parked on the side of a road with an expired inspection, he will ignore the baby and write up a citation for the car. If the baby is still alive when he's done, he'll probably then write the baby a ticket for jaywalking. I do not believe cops are, in general, good people. Good ones are the exception, not the rule."

Truth.

Quote :

"fuck the police until they allow you to pull off the highway at the next exit to ensure safety, i will not think they are being rational. too many faggots are killed through roadside hits while standing at carside windows. safety does not elude the elite popos"

Just put on your flashers to acknowledge him, and wait until the next exit. The cop might be mad at first, but it would take a real dick (even for a cop) not to accept the explanation, "Hey, it wasn't safe for either of us to be on the side of that highway."

7/17/2009 10:13:18 AM

fuck the police

that is all

7/17/2009 10:30:10 AM

Quote :

"i really do agree with you, for the most part...regardless of what you think, though, it most certainly is NOT their JOB to change a person's tire...it is the self-imposed "duty" of every decent human being to help out those who need help...you helped her and that makes your actions decent and good...they did not help her and that makes them lazy douchebags...but their douchebaggery is independent of their profession"

So these cops were douchebags....

7/17/2009 10:32:30 AM

I am a college student

I dont respect authority

ANARCHY RULES

7/17/2009 10:38:09 AM

Quote :

"it is the self-imposed "duty" of every decent human being to help out those who need help"

actually, state law says that every motorist is required to stop and render assistance to other motorists requiring assistance on the side of the road

7/17/2009 10:41:14 AM

^ i was under the impression that that's actually not true (i took a criminal law course when i was at state and our prof was a judge...he started the class by going over all of these "it sounds true, but it's actually not" laws like good samaritan and all that jazz)...do you have any reference?

7/17/2009 11:03:40 AM