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8/3/2009 12:25:13 AM

new page, enough hate

road rage is nothing new

i read somewhere that men got in fights in Rome for following too close and shit with chariots

if i can find the link ill post it

8/3/2009 12:26:50 AM

as long as we're talking about driving habits...

people need to learn to pay attention to the stoplight when they're stopped. I had 3 separate instances, IN A ROW, of different cars that weren't paying attention. It's annoying as hell when I miss the light because you were texting or whatever and you were 10-15 seconds late in going. I can get over once but after the third time I was a little pissed

8/3/2009 7:53:47 AM

i hate that too


i had a cop do it to me coming out of crossroads at that light by crossroads ford... I didn't want to honk at him, because i didn't want to give myself any unwanted attention (I had illegal tint at the time, which as since been removed), but I didn't know what to do when he started to do it again FOR A SECOND TIME

also, the new texting law (well it's not new, but they are supposedly actually going to enforce it now)- who enforces it on the cops? I had a cop almost run right into me turning on to athens drive (I was parked so I couldn't have even swerved) and it was because he was taking the turn while texting on his phone and not paying attention

8/3/2009 7:59:11 AM

take pics and send it to the police dept and wral. lawlz.

8/3/2009 8:05:52 AM

I once stopped behind a car at a traffic light, the light turned green and the car sat still even though the lane ahead was clear. After waiting 3 seconds for a response, I honked at him twice. Then I honked again, then laid on the horn for a few seconds. Nothing. At this point I was concerned for the driver, threw my cherokee in park and ran to the car's door. There was a young fellow driving who was slouched over in his seat. I knocked on the window a couple times, then banged on the window. At this point I thought he was in trouble. I tried the door, but it was locked, so drew my elbow back to try to break out the window.

Guy woke up from an apparently deep sleep. I just motioned my arm towards the green light, he let his foot off the brake and started back on his way. I just imagine it would have been a lot of explaining to do if I had broken out a window for a guy who was sleeping. Also have decided that striking the window with the end of my closed knife would be a better approach at knocking out a window (At the time I carried a Gerber LST though). Hard to believe he fell asleep like that and never took his foot off the brake.

8/3/2009 8:15:00 AM

^

Narcoleptic?

8/3/2009 8:31:20 AM

I would really appreciate a law that doesn't allow the use of cells phones period in a vehicle. People already have enough distraction with the radio, a passenger etc and then you look over and some bitch is sending a text message. I guarantee if she was on a motorcycle, she would not be using her cell phone period and she would be looking for other dumbass drivers that are.

Driving shouldn't be a triage activity.

And yes I second for slower traffic moving to the right lane. If someone wants to go faster than you, get over and allow them to pass, otherwise, you're creating just as much as a hazard as they are. It takes two seconds to move over, let them pass, and move back over if need be. Also, there may be a line of cars behind Speedy Gonzales and you are holding up traffic hence one reason for traffic jams.

There is no reason to be an asshole to people trying to move their ass from point A to point B at a slightly higher speed than you. And just because they want to go faster than the speed limit, it doesn't make them an asshole. It also doesn't make them an asshole that they ride your bumper in the left lane. They already asked you nicely to get over when you looked in your rear view and noticed they were coming up to your bumper.
As I recall, there is a sign somewhere on 40 that says "slower traffic stay right" anyways.

8/3/2009 8:32:00 AM

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"It also doesn't make them an asshole that they ride your bumper in the left lane"

Incorrect.

8/3/2009 8:44:04 AM

I had a rig follow on my bumper at no more than 2 yards. I was getting great gas mileage, because he was "drafting" off me like a motherfucker. There was some dumbass in front of me that would not move out of the way and matched the below limit on the right in speed, so that tractor followed dangerously close to my bumper for 5 miles.

This really pissed me the fuck off I was about ready to make some money that day.

8/3/2009 8:59:27 AM

40E, coming up on the split, I'm in the 2nd lane from left, to continue on 40E.

I do not drive fast anymore. This asshole trucker gets on my ass (this is at ~1120 at night), is all up on my bumper, flashing his lights, honking his horn, and trying to bully me or get me to move over, or something.

I don't know if it's no trucks left lane there or not, but given that the road is practically empty...that behavior made me drop my speed another 5mph.

He finally passed me after the split, and had the air horn going from the time he began passing me til the time his rear bumper passed my front bumper.

I fucking hate driving.

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 9:03 AM. Reason : sdfg]

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 9:09 AM. Reason : oops]

8/3/2009 9:03:11 AM

why didn't you get in the right lane?

8/3/2009 9:06:40 AM

Because that would have taken me on 440.
The two rightmost lanes are exit only. I was in the rightmost lane that continued on to 40e.

That was the point of saying where on 40 I was: I was in the correct lane, and it's still not good enough for assholes. Sorry, guys, this is a left-ish lane now, but those other two lanes are exit only, and I don't like being here any more than you like me being here.

And then I think about all the people who know they need to be getting right to exit, wait until the last minute, fuck up traffic, and I stop guilt-tripping myself

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 9:09 AM. Reason : df']

8/3/2009 9:08:09 AM

i'm pretty sure both of those right lanes go to 40E and the two left lanes go to 440 outer

8/3/2009 9:10:12 AM

wat


(no hotlinking?)

8/3/2009 9:12:42 AM

are you talking about this?:


View Larger Map

8/3/2009 9:14:41 AM

No.
289.
I was coming from the airport home.


^, yes, the two right lanes = 40e.

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 9:15 AM. Reason : pronoun]

8/3/2009 9:15:22 AM

you gotta specify

too many splits on 40E

8/3/2009 9:15:50 AM

Yeah...sorry about that

8/3/2009 9:16:21 AM

haha next time just be like "the 40/Wade split". it's not technically the the 40/440 split.

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 9:18 AM. Reason : anyway, i know exactly what you mean. not much you could do there]

8/3/2009 9:17:53 AM

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"that behavior made me drop my speed another 5mph."

Are you fucking crazy? Do you want to get shot?
Of every dick move listed in every driving thread on every message board on the entire internet, that one is the worst.
If you did that, and the victim ran you off the road, raped and killed you, I would almost say you had it coming.
DO NOT IMPEDE TRAFFIC TO MAKE A POINT. You stupid fucking vigilante bitch.
If you hate driving so much, don't fucking do it.

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"I would really appreciate a law that doesn't allow the use of cells phones period in a vehicle. People already have enough distraction with the radio, a passenger etc and then you look over and some bitch is sending a text message. I guarantee if she was on a motorcycle, she would not be using her cell phone period and she would be looking for other dumbass drivers that are."

This is such an easy issue to understand, but you are still on the "I know what's better for everyone nanny-state" bandwagon. First of all, using a phone while driving isn't even anywhere near the same as typing a message on the phone while driving. I couldn't agree more that texting constitutes an unreasonable danger to others -- a clearly unreasonable danger. I've never even heard of someone defending that behavior as acceptable. But simply talking on the phone, hitting one or two buttons to dial, holding the phone in your hand, etc. do not necessarily constitute an unreasonable danger. It may for some, but most people can handle it just fine. Laws banning all cell phone use while driving over-reach. If someone is driving reckless, crossing the line, swerving, etc. those are already crimes -- pull them over for that.

Everything else in your post is spot on.

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 10:20 AM. Reason : ]

8/3/2009 10:16:37 AM

ITT Willy Nilly and theduke preach the gospel of driving



ITT heathens try to deny it

8/3/2009 10:27:24 AM

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"DO NOT IMPEDE TRAFFIC TO MAKE A POINT. You stupid fucking vigilante bitch. "

Re-read.

See the part about the road being damn near empty?

The only thing I was impeding was a douchebag trucker who would rather play with his brights and air horn than his turn signal and steering wheel.

8/3/2009 10:30:39 AM

Impeding one person is still impeding traffic.

8/3/2009 10:39:03 AM

^^
It doesn't matter that the road was empty. That makes him a slightly bigger dick for continuing to ride your ass, but that is no excuse for your behavior. If he had to slow down at all, because of your admittedly vigilante move, (and not because the road conditions or other traffic forced you to slow down,) then you are a queen bitch asshole driver that almost deserves to be ran off the road. There is no mother-fucking excuse for intentionally slowing down to piss someone off or make a point. You are a reckless and dangerous vigilante bitch and hope you never drive again.

8/3/2009 10:42:23 AM

Ok.

8/3/2009 11:02:57 AM

AND LO

ON THE THIRD DAY

WILLY NILLY SAID LET THERE BE TWO CATEGORIES

THOSE WHO DRIVE QUICKLY

AND THOSE WHO DO NOT

AND LET THE PASSAGE BETWEEN THESE TWO CATEGORIES BE FLUID

AND LET THERE BE RECONGIZATION OF WHICH GROUP YOU BELONG TO BASED UPON CURRENT SURROUNDINGS

AND LET THOSE WHO ARE DRIVING QUICKLY HAVE THE LEFT

AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT HAVE THE RIGHT

ALL TOGETHER NOW AMEN

8/3/2009 11:09:23 AM

AMEN







(holy shit that is hilarious kiljadn '12)

8/3/2009 11:10:13 AM

aha ♥

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM. Reason : I've been enjoying jadn's posts these days ]

8/3/2009 11:10:28 AM

i love when people flash their high beams at me when im in the left lane (doing like 13 over, and there are definately cars in the lane next to me so moving over isn't immediately a possibility). its like, do you really think im gonna get out of your way because you just did that?

8/3/2009 11:12:14 AM

AMEN



^
No, they are simply telling you, "Hey, when you get a chance, I'd like to pass."

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:15 AM. Reason : ]

8/3/2009 11:14:25 AM

^^^That part of 40 the truck was under a "Lane Restriction".

I am sure once you both made the split, he passed you because the restriction ended.

If there was no one else on the road, what would it have hurt for you to move one lane either way and let him pass you? It sounds like there wasn't any other traffic impeding you so you would have had no trouble getting back into the lane you needed to be in.

Defensive driving is about knowing all of your possible troubles. If you see someone barreling upon you, get out of their way for your own safety!

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:18 AM. Reason : carat]

8/3/2009 11:17:43 AM

There's really only two things that get me upset while driving nowadays:

1) Last second mergers. You've had the sign saying lane closed, merge right for the last 3 miles, yet you drive all the way down and force everyone to stop to let you in. You are the reason for all the traffic congestion when there are lane closures. These people upset me. It's even more upsetting that some people actually let the guy in. I kinda give them a pass because the person inconsiderate enough to merge right before hitting the traffic cones are also the kind of person that will merge over whether or not there is space to do so.

Nothing would please me more than to see these people go all the way down to the end, and then be completely blocked out of merging back over for hours on end.

2) People that drive under the posted speed limit in the left lane on a highway. Why do you do this? Heck, driving under the speed limit on any lane on the highway isn't the best of ideas. Perhaps you are more suited for driving through the city's school zones as opposed to taking the highway.

I saw a truck going about 5-10 under the speed limit down the left lane of the beltline the other day. Granted there are hills, but the guy was going up and down hills, always under the speed limit. There wasn't anyone in front of them. I guess the driver finally got off the phone or something because they eventually sped up to later lay on their horn because they got behind someone going 10 over the limit that wasn't going fast enough for them.

You keep your distance from psychos like that.

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:22 AM. Reason : -]

8/3/2009 11:20:48 AM

^^^ that's usually made obvious by the shitty driving up to that point.

nothing i hate more than a pointless tailgater, (ie in rush hour traffic passing at any opprotunity when i will simply pass you back when you get stuck in the other lane at the very next light less than 400 yards away.)

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"1) Last second mergers. You've had the sign saying lane closed, merge right for the last 3 miles, yet you drive all the way down and force everyone to stop to let you in. You are the reason for all the traffic congestion when there are lane closures. These people upset me. It's even more upsetting that some people actually let the guy in. I kinda give them a pass because the person inconsiderate enough to merge right before hitting the traffic cones are also the kind of person that will merge over whether or not there is space to do so."

i hate that too and typically try to block the fuck out of them if it's possible to do so safely

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:22 AM. Reason : d]

8/3/2009 11:20:51 AM

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"i love when people flash their high beams at me when im in the left lane (doing like 13 over, and there are definately cars in the lane next to me so moving over isn't immediately a possibility). its like, do you really think im gonna get out of your way because you just did that"

When they do that to me and tailgate me, I impede the fuck out of them. I set my cruise, I'm obviously passing the person next to me, just because I'm not passing as fast as you want me to doesn't mean I'm going to bend to your fucking will. I usually shoot them a bird as they pass me too. I fucking hate it when people get on my ass like that.

8/3/2009 11:21:06 AM

^ex-fucking-actly

8/3/2009 11:22:23 AM

ROAD RAGE ITT

8/3/2009 11:23:29 AM

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"^^That part of 40 the truck was under a "Lane Restriction". I am sure once you both made the split, he passed you because the restriction ended."

He did. I wasn't sure either way if there was a restriction, and my take on it is thus:

You are the one who wants to get in front of me; therefore, the duty to change your position relative to mine lies upon you. I understand and appreciate lane restrictions; however, like so many rules, there are times when they can be safely and courteously disregarded. This was one of those times, given how empty the road was.

It honestly did not occur to me to get in one of the exit only lanes. I wish I could remember how close to the exit we were when he began to do this. Since I drive slow, I make it a point and a habit to allow people to pass me as easily as possible, so it may very well be that we were so close that getting over and back wasn't a good option. But, again, I don't recall.

Basically, if you choose to not pass me, I am definitely not going to change my driving so that you can go faster, when the ability to do so without any action from me is freely available to you. Add asshole behavior to the mix, and any possibility of my accommodating your behavior evaporates immediately.

+1 on jbtilley's #1

I love seeing truckers doing that.


[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:24 AM. Reason : sdf]

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:25 AM. Reason : d]

8/3/2009 11:23:49 AM

This reminds me of something that happened in like the first week I had my license.

Going down I-40E into Durham (2-lanes each way), I was chillin in the right lane going 65 like a good little boy. Still drive that way today. This big rig inexplicably starts cruising in the left lane beside me also going 65. There was very little traffic that morning. But he did this for MILES.

On a long straightaway, I could see there was at least a mile-long backup in both lanes because he had blocked the only passing lane for at least 10 minutes. The guy in the right lane behind me was swerving, screaming bloody murder, pounding on his steering wheel like a caged ape, and showing off his ability to act like a 4 year-old.

Sure, I could've sped up in the right lane, and allowed folks to pass the trucker that way. But the show was way too entertaining. Every driver I could see was blowing a gasket. But I am in no way obligated to get out of their way. That's the trucker's job.

If I'm going 65 in the right lane and someone decides to tailgate me, for any reason, I will slow down until they move over. I don't care if the left-lane is blocked, and they can't get over to pass. That never excuses tailgating. People like you are the reason for that 50 car pile-up on the interstate. At any given time, you should have sufficient distance to stop even if the person directly in front of you randomly applies full-on brakes. If you don't, and there's an accident, it is 1000% your fault. It doesn't matter if the person had a good reason to apply the brakes. You are obligated to stay back far enough so that it doesn't matter.

If you're behind me, waiting for room to pass, that's fine. But you need to have a little respect and patience. I'm in the right line - I'm not the cause of your problem.

8/3/2009 11:25:20 AM

^^I guess the lesson learned here is that the truck could not "legally" pass you in the left lane nor on the right.

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM. Reason : .]

8/3/2009 11:27:53 AM

most excellent

8/3/2009 11:29:03 AM

LOOK BITCHES, IT'S THE FUCKING LAW. GET OUT OF OUR WAY*

*as soon as it's safe for you to do so

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"I don't care if the left-lane is blocked, and they can't get over to pass. That never excuses tailgating. People like you are the reason for that 50 car pile-up on the interstate. "

Yeah, tailgating when the driver can't get out of the way, is stupid. However, I contend that it's vigilantes like ambrosia1231 and Fareako that are more likely to cause 50 car pile-ups. The most dangerous thing is clusters of cars stuck because some douche-nozzle vigilante won't allow cars to pass. When everyone eventually gets to pass as they please, the traffic spreads out into the regular safe way traffic should be. How can anyone suggest that these clusters of cars are not fucking dangerous as hell? And most of all, how can anyone suggest that the clusters aren't caused by the one or two drivers at the front of the cluster not letting anyone pass?

8/3/2009 11:36:25 AM

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"The most dangerous thing is clusters of cars stuck because some douche-nozzle vigilante won't allow cars to pass"

Driving in the rightmost lane is the exact opposite of preventing people from passing.

In what I posted above, I was in the rightmost appropriate lane.
On regular stretches, I stay in the rightmost possible lane. I.e., no exit-only lanes, and no lanes that are ending imminently. You can't say I'm at the front of a cluster preventing people from passing, given that rest of the road is to my right.



[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:39 AM. Reason : df]

8/3/2009 11:37:48 AM

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"If there was no one else on the road, what would it have hurt for you to move one lane either way and let him pass you? It sounds like there wasn't any other traffic impeding you so you would have had no trouble getting back into the lane you needed to be in. Defensive driving is about knowing all of your possible troubles. If you see someone barreling upon you, get out of their way for your own safety!"

sensibility? on my wolfweb?

8/3/2009 11:39:09 AM

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"How can anyone suggest that these clusters of cars are not fucking dangerous as hell? And most of all, how can anyone suggest that the clusters aren't caused by the one or two drivers at the front of the cluster not letting anyone pass?"

Maybe I'm suggesting the radical idea that the tailgaters are the ones....you know, responsible for tailgating? What is a cluster of cars? A bunch of people tailgating.

Even if some asshole is cruising in the left lane going 65, if you tailgate them, you are actively making the situation worse and more dangerous for all involved. Sure, that idiot should get over. But then you compound their stupidity with your own.

8/3/2009 11:40:54 AM

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"LOOK BITCHES, IT'S THE FUCKING LAW"

willy, you should be the first to admit that something being a law doesn't validate it

8/3/2009 11:42:37 AM

obligatory "speeding is breaking the law" so there really wouldnt be any 'slower traffic'

but realistically, any driver who is going at the speed limit or less, in the left lane, is actively creating a road hazard.

8/3/2009 11:46:08 AM

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"but realistically, any driver who is going at the speed limit or less, in the left lane, is actively creating a road hazard."

It takes two to tango.

There is nothing inherently unsafe about driving slowly in the left lane. But, it is stupid and illegal. That stupidity only becomes unsafe when another asshole is also breaking the law by speeding and tailgating. The resulting situation is incredibly dangerous for everyone, and the blame lies with both of them.

8/3/2009 11:49:16 AM

its also against the law to use elephants to plow cotton fields in NC

8/3/2009 11:50:59 AM

At some point it becomes unreasonable to expect a driver to either get into an exit lane, or move over to the left (against all the accepted norms). The trucker just needed to chill out for thirty seconds if it was a case of him not being able to drive in any other lane. You may be asking a bit much for regular drivers to pick up on that.






On a separate thought, everyone that ever stops to let someone turn left across multiple lanes needs to stop that shit. The guy turning can't see the other lanes, and the other lanes can't see the guy turning.

[Edited on August 3, 2009 at 11:54 AM. Reason : []

8/3/2009 11:53:53 AM