that's not only dumb, it's not possible.

point made?

8/17/2009 7:49:45 PM

So, those guys actually going to be suspended for a few games or will this be like that incident a few years back where several basketball team members got in a fight at a Halloween party and their court date kept being postponed because they kept winning in the tourney?

[Edited on August 17, 2009 at 8:07 PM. Reason : -]

8/17/2009 8:07:17 PM

unc is the class of the acc

8/17/2009 8:16:03 PM

Jesus simonn, are you being purposefully obtuse, trolling, or what?

NO ONE IS FUCKING SAYING WE ACTUALLY WANT TO BE AN UNDERDOG

WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO BE AT UF AND USCs LEVEL AND EXPECT TO SMOKE EVERY TEAM ON THE PLANET

BUT WHILE WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THAT POINT

AND OUR RECORD ABSOLUTELY PROVES IT

IN GAMES WHERE WE AREN'T HYPED AND COME IN AS AN UNDERDOG

WE HAVE BETTER OUTCOMES IN GAMES WE SHOULD LOSE VS GAMES WE SHOULD OR COULD WIN

ITS

THAT

SIMPLE

8/17/2009 8:39:31 PM

What I have gleaned from this thread:

Quote :

"When we hongry, we eat."

8/17/2009 8:46:49 PM

^ ftw

And yes simonn I trolled you bad on the 1st page. No I don't want State to be perpetually underrated and always be the underdog. I'f I'd have known you were going to go all apeshit like you did... well...

... ah shit I'd have done it anyway. It was awesome

8/17/2009 9:05:09 PM

Quote :

"AND OUR RECORD ABSOLUTELY PROVES IT"

I'm not saying you're right, I'm not saying you're wrong, but some numbers would be nice here.

8/17/2009 9:30:02 PM

okay i didn't find any odds, i'm just going off of memory, and i spotted you fucking idiots basically every game i wasn't sure about. here's what i figure for tob's two seasons at nc state:

found some odds, here you go:

2007
favored wins
wofford
unc

favored losses
central florida
maryland

underdog wins
ecu
virginia
miami
unc

underdog losses
boston college
clemson
louisville
florida state
wake forest

2008
favored wins
none

favored losses
none

underdog wins
ecu
duke
wake forest
unc
miami

underdog losses
south carolina
clemson
south florida
boston college
florida state
maryland
rutgers


wow guys, LOOK HOW WELL WE DO AS AN UNDERDOG. 9-12. AWESOME. I WISH WE COULD BE AN UNDERDOG ALL THE TIME, SINCE WE PLAY SO WELL AS ONE. LOOK AT OUR RECORD ABSOLUTELY PROVING THAT WE PLAY BETTER AS AN UNDERDOG. OH WAIT, WE'RE .500 IN FAVORED GAMES. OOPS.

HOLD ON, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY. YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT 9-12 IS ALMOST .500, AND SINCE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO LOSE THOSE GAMES ANYWAY, IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN GOING .500! DON'T EVEN FUCKING SAY THAT, B/C IT'S NOT TRUE.

http://www.oddsshark.com/Stats/GameLog/Football/NCAAF/528/2007

[Edited on August 17, 2009 at 11:43 PM. Reason : I THINK THAT'S ABOUT THE END OF THE ARGUMENT GUYS, WHAT DO YOU THINK?]

8/17/2009 11:16:32 PM

simonn is my second favorite sports talk poster

I'm number one

8/18/2009 9:39:44 AM

this thread just really sucks now.

8/18/2009 9:41:35 AM

Yes, this was supposed to be about how UNC is recruiting thugs, not about being underdogs

8/18/2009 10:25:47 AM

we are favored in the USC game btw

8/19/2009 11:45:36 AM

We were "underdogs" to Duke last year?

8/19/2009 12:05:41 PM

TOB said we were underdogs in every game we played last year, so I assume so.

8/19/2009 12:38:01 PM

no assumption necessary, i have provided a link.

8/19/2009 1:06:38 PM

according to that webpage the wofford game had no line (because what fucking idiot would bet on a mid-tier IAA team against any non-Duke IA team?) so we're actually 1-2 in favored games

8/19/2009 1:17:18 PM

but we were "expected to win", i just used betting lines as a measure of expectation. also i forgot to include the william and mary game, so we're actually 3-2.

8/19/2009 2:18:04 PM