marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
with my feet on the ground and my head in the clouds 8/21/2009 6:43:04 PM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
rofl 8/21/2009 6:45:10 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
The democrats in that region are borderline socialist which includes an area of social permissivity. So by increasing gov't involvement in personnal freedoms you cross into totalitarian/communist area where that state controls economical AND personal choices. Kinda like if Pelosi started supporting hard-liner anti drug policies, pro-life, and family values along with her heart felt liberal welfare programs/universal health care/environmental regulations.
[Edited on August 21, 2009 at 7:02 PM. Reason : l] 8/21/2009 6:59:13 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So by increasing gov't involvement in personnal freedoms you cross into totalitarian/communist area where that state controls economical AND personal choices." |
Movement upward means more economic permissiveness. So as socially conservative Democrats become more economically libertarian, they become totalitarians, according to the graph.
[Edited on August 21, 2009 at 7:07 PM. Reason : ]8/21/2009 7:06:56 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
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zorthage 1+1=5 17148 Posts user info edit post |
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3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
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Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
So far we seem to have more people in the green quadrant than in all the other sections combined, and very few people who are extreme in any direction. 8/22/2009 1:11:54 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
8/22/2009 1:14:43 AM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
8/22/2009 1:34:18 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
well lets be serious
as long as you are not a crazy nutjob you should be below the X axis. 8/22/2009 4:16:51 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
8/22/2009 4:28:44 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I don't get how wdprice3 and republican18 got above the X axis... they must have chosen that they believe in separating the races, or something. 8/22/2009 4:31:43 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
there are plenty of things you can pick to knock you over the X 8/22/2009 4:49:09 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Because they're fascists? 8/22/2009 5:10:36 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
the obviously hate freedom 8/22/2009 5:11:35 PM |
Socks`` All American 11792 Posts user info edit post |
to get above the x-axis, you have to support state-imposed collectivism to some degree. That means (from what I can tell) some form of state-enforced morality and possibly racial discrimination.
If you are in the upper right hand corner, the website says something between a fascist and a libertarian (a Republican? haha jk). You want to see the government regulating people's personal lives, but not their economic lives.
*shrug*
[Edited on August 22, 2009 at 5:16 PM. Reason : ``] 8/22/2009 5:14:15 PM |
Socks`` All American 11792 Posts user info edit post |
Here's another pic for context.
Republican18 looks close to Marge Thatcher. Probably to be expected. 8/22/2009 5:16:15 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Some of the questions on this test are a little iffy.
"Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified."
It could be, potentially, but often is not. Somehow, I think an "agree" would be interpreted as supporting war, which I don't.
8/23/2009 1:15:32 AM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
socks can u find some ppl that are near the center? 8/23/2009 1:17:39 AM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Some of the questions on this test are a little iffy." |
Agreed... I'm pretty certain I ended up picking Agree or Disagree to a couple things for different reasons than the test intended. I would have appreciated a Neutral option for such things.
[Edited on August 23, 2009 at 2:26 AM. Reason : I expect a more-accurate quiz would have put me much lower, and a bit farther left.]8/23/2009 2:16:29 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
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sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
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dagreenone All American 5971 Posts user info edit post |
8/23/2009 9:02:56 AM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
8/23/2009 9:26:33 AM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Me answering for Obama:
[Edited on August 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM. Reason : ] 8/23/2009 10:20:42 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
This is where I got Obama:
8/23/2009 10:38:27 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If we recognise that this is essentially an economic line it's fine, as far as it goes. We can show, for example, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot, with their commitment to a totally controlled economy, on the hard left. Socialists like Mahatma Gandhi and Robert Mugabe would occupy a less extreme leftist position. Margaret Thatcher would be well over to the right, but further right still would be someone like that ultimate free marketeer, General Pinochet. " |
This is quite stupid. I strongly suspect Obama is more of a free marketeer than General Pinochet. The only reason Pinochet has a reputation of being a free marketeer is because he is only ever compared to his fellow South American dictators.
A much better 2D axis is collectivist versus compulsory. You can be a socialist without believing people should be forced to participate in your socialism. Voluntary socialism is found in a Kibbutz or a family of adults. Involuntary socialism is what applies to children, which cannot leave. Against that we have Voluntary Capitalism (anarchism, all rules are negotiable) versus Involuntary Capitalism, as is found in most countries (the rules are fixed and enforced).8/23/2009 10:45:02 AM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
i think what put me above the x axis was strongly agreeing to "People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce" 8/23/2009 11:05:40 AM |
mdozer73 All American 8005 Posts user info edit post |
Here is another quiz:
http://www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html 8/25/2009 9:21:49 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^^I lived on a kibbutz for a brief period of time...socialism really does work in small numbers 8/25/2009 11:04:56 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
My graph resembles most everybody else's.
But my report also indicated that I am a genius and an exceptional lay.
So, yeah.
8/25/2009 1:58:10 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Some of those questions were pointless. Perhaps I'm missing something, but whether or not I feel like abstract art is really art doesn't seem like an indicator of any particular political ideology. Whether or not it deserves public funding (it doesn't, no art does) would be another question entirely. I'd classify myself as an anarcho-capitalist.
8/25/2009 5:31:45 PM |
Saikaubi Starting Lineup 73 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 9:50 PM. Reason : -]
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GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
That's about right, actually.
8/25/2009 10:30:58 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
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bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
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Mangy Wolf All American 2006 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on August 26, 2009 at 12:26 AM. Reason : -]
8/26/2009 12:25:04 AM |
Teddy New Recruit 42 Posts user info edit post |
Obama took the test while on vacation.
8/26/2009 11:33:57 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
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Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
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thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
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kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
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DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 1, 2009 at 8:34 PM. Reason : wrong post.]
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LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^I lived on a kibbutz for a brief period of time...socialism really does work in small numbers" |
So I've heard. And I would never suggest otherwise. Voluntary socialism should work wherever it exists, otherwise everyone involved would quit and it would cease to exist.9/2/2009 10:41:35 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well lets be serious
as long as you are not a crazy nutjob you should be below the X axis." |
9/2/2009 2:43:11 PM |