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"Didn't the ACC "suck" last year when we got a record 10 teams into bowl games?"

Sad to say, but the # of bowl teams is becoming more and more useless for gauging strength, it's just a simple fact. We love watching that extra game for bragging rights but come on, putting teams in the PapaJohns.com or EagleBank.com or homepages.tripod.com/bowl Bowl isn't something to brag about for anyone.

9/7/2009 11:50:32 AM

1. SEC
2. Big 12
3. Big 10
4. Pac 10
5. Big East
6. ACC
7. Mountain West
8. WAC
9. Notre Dame

I think the real strength of the big 10 this year will be Penn State and Michigan State with tOSU and UM tied for 3rd. tOSU defense looked slow.....against Navy.....USC is going to win by 3 TDs

[Edited on September 7, 2009 at 12:59 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2009 12:55:03 PM

Quote :

"I love the panicking in this thread, its week 1, lots of bad losses our two bottom feeders both posted embarassing losses. The season is far from over. It will be a long week but people will forget about this week after next weekend. The Big Ten has Penn State and Ohio State that may be good, at least the sports media will hype those 2 all season. If the Luckeyes beat USC this week they will be gift wrapped another national title game appearance. The Big 12 has Texas, Oklahoma(maybe) that can be good. Oklahoma State will be this season's Texas Tech. The Pac-10 is all USC. The Big East who the hell knows, that conference is worse than ours, but since they are up north they don't get the constant comparisons to the SEC like the ACC does."

Exactly...

^I don't know how you can say the ACC is worst, as a whole, than the Pac 10 and Big East. I would say us and the Big 10 are pretty even this year. With them having a small advantage. After watching O H I O on Saturday I would love to see a GT vs Ohio St match up.

9/7/2009 1:28:15 PM

I mean top to bottom. I think the 2 best teams in the ACC are probably GT and VT.

The big 10's only cupcakes this year are Indiana and maybe Illinois, but Illinois could still make a bowl.

Typo on putting the ACC below the Big East. But the Pac 10 is much improved this year. Stanford and Arizona will be good not great teams. Washington is better, oregon state is still decent. Washington State is horrible as usual, but with Cal, UCLA, and the pay as you go USC Trojans make the Pac 10 pretty decent this year.

9/7/2009 1:36:32 PM

Quote :

" I love the panicking in this thread, its week 1, lots of bad losses our two bottom feeders both posted embarassing losses. The season is far from over. It will be a long week but people will forget about this week after next weekend. The Big Ten has Penn State and Ohio State that may be good, at least the sports media will hype those 2 all season. If the Luckeyes beat USC this week they will be gift wrapped another national title game appearance. The Big 12 has Texas, Oklahoma(maybe) that can be good. Oklahoma State will be this season's Texas Tech. The Pac-10 is all USC. The Big East who the hell knows, that conference is worse than ours, but since they are up north they don't get the constant comparisons to the SEC like the ACC does"

This dude obviously doesnt do much football research outside of the south. I'll take Michigan and Michigan State over every ACC team besides VT and maybe GT.

As for the big 12, Missouri is going to be good and so is Kansas. Baylor is much much improved and they still have Texas Tech, Texas, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State being locks for bowl games.

9/7/2009 2:01:46 PM

Quote :

"It will be a long week but people will forget about this week after next weekend. "

Eh...maybe for the other teams but not for us. I don't think anything else will matter until we prove we can win against ACC teams.

9/7/2009 2:26:22 PM

1. SEC
2. not the SEC
3. not the SEC
4. not the SEC
5. not the SEC

I WOULD ARGUE THAT MY TURD IS MORE POLISHED THAN YOUR TURD

Quote :

"I think the 2 best teams in the ACC are probably GT and VT"

and we havent even seen 2 of the teams play...i am guessing FSU and UM are going to be in the top half of the conference...its like people forget about them since they havent played yet this year...they kinda have like what national 7 titles between them? pretty good programs

[Edited on September 7, 2009 at 2:41 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2009 2:40:18 PM

i was including FSU and Miami in ny thinking. Still GT and VT should be the best 2 teams

9/7/2009 2:43:57 PM

Quote :

"The Pac-10 is all USC."

Yeah Cal looked like complete shit the other night.

9/7/2009 9:10:11 PM

top 2 are a lock but i think MWC is 3rd. No other top 3 could compete with their top 3 and its not like the bottom of the conference wouldn't put up a fight against the Dukes and Virginias.

9/7/2009 9:15:47 PM

Quote :

"they kinda have like what national 7 titles between them? pretty good programs"

We should recruit Yale and Army to the ACC. They are going to be beasts, what with their 31 combined national titles.

[Edited on September 7, 2009 at 9:16 PM. Reason : lollers at the dude who posted above me]

9/7/2009 9:16:19 PM

someone doesnt know what the modern era is, where yale and harvard have zero titles


[Edited on September 7, 2009 at 9:22 PM. Reason : i'm assuming you meant harvard, and not army]

9/7/2009 9:20:07 PM

I think tonight was a pretty good night for the ACC

9/7/2009 11:59:50 PM

Tonight definitely helped out the ACC a little. The ACC NEEDS Miami and FSU to be worth a shit.

9/8/2009 12:01:56 AM

definitely did

9/8/2009 12:02:31 AM

I am not sure I agree that we need F$U and Cubami to be good again.

I think we need the rest of the conference to stop sucking dick.

9/8/2009 12:03:06 AM

I was unaware that Miami had a bunch of Cubans on their team

hmmm

the more you know...

9/8/2009 12:04:59 AM

they have a lot of thugs on their team.

Miami has a lot of Cubans in the fucking town.

The thugs might be Cuban, but I am going to bet on another ethnicity.

9/8/2009 12:07:29 AM

stereotypes are fun!

9/8/2009 12:08:03 AM

flood control

see yall fucking tomorrow

9/8/2009 12:16:47 AM

did someone mention representin' the ACC???!!!

9/8/2009 12:30:01 AM

that video still isn't as funny since we didn't get to see it here

9/8/2009 12:31:06 AM

I think that makes even funnier...

9/8/2009 12:35:45 AM

lol

FSU 19 Jacksonvill St 9 (FSU was losing going into the 4th qtr)
Maryland 38 James Madison 35 in OT
UNC 12 (on some bs) Uconn 12 (who many picked to finish 2nd to last in the Big east)

9/13/2009 8:19:41 PM

lol indeed

Quote :

"tOSU defense looked slow.....against Navy.....USC is going to win by 3 TDs"

9/13/2009 8:22:44 PM

hey i still picked the winner, what have you contributed

9/13/2009 8:23:32 PM

Well, so far there doesn't seem to be anyone looking especially good this season. The Big Ten is having it's issues, same with the Big East. The Big 12 doesn't feel like their usual overpowering self in the regular season, and nobody cares about the PAC 10 outside of USC (which hasn't looked fantastic yet either).

Even the SEC's kinda gotten off to a rambling start, although without any embarrassment for themselves like the rest of us.

So it's either just a slow start to the season, or this is the year that CFB parity finally starts killing the bigger conferences and we wind up with 3 or 4 legitimate BCS contenders from the mid-majors.

9/13/2009 10:18:42 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm

HA!

We're number 3!
Maybe games against Div 1aafcs opponents don't count? So therefor neither do the losses?

[Edited on September 14, 2009 at 4:42 PM. Reason : /]

9/14/2009 4:39:30 PM

Representing the AAAAAYYYY CEEEEE CEEEEEEEEEEEE!

9/14/2009 5:33:35 PM

i dont know if i'm reading that page right but...

NC State is rated as last in the ACC?

how is our SOS #153 if UNC's SOS is #82??

and how would we be behind UVA?

9/14/2009 6:09:51 PM

Quote :

"I think the real strength of the big 10 this year will be Penn State and Michigan State with tOSU and UM tied for 3rd."

lol. Michigan State.

9/14/2009 6:25:34 PM

I just caught this:

Quote :

"top 2 are a lock but i think MWC is 3rd. No other top 3 could compete with their top 3 and its not like the bottom of the conference wouldn't put up a fight against the Dukes and Virginias."

Yeah, I mean, BYU, Utah, and TCU are good, but come the fuck on. We'd slaughter any other MWC team by embarrassing scores, unless there's a dynasty brewing up in Wyoming I don't know about. Duke would prob. beat whoever their #4 is (and I have no idea who that is, just saying).

I might put the Big East up there based on the fact that the distance between 1 and 7 is pretty tight this year. Cincy is BCS worthy again, Pitt is good, Rutgers is good, UConn is pretty solid, WVU is WVU, and USF def. has a shot at the title, but the SEC, Big XII, Big Ten, go ahead of them. Then Big East, Pac 10, and ACC.

[Edited on September 17, 2009 at 5:15 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2009 5:14:30 PM

In any sort of statistical or objective rating the ACC always seems to be in the top 3.



[Edited on September 17, 2009 at 5:34 PM. Reason : Except 07 when the ACC was terrible, only better than the big 10]

9/17/2009 5:32:09 PM

Quote :

"Duke would prob. beat whoever their #4 is (and I have no idea who that is, just saying). "

Duke lost to a 1-AA team and had to come back from behind against one of the worst 1-A teams in history (army).

MWC has Colorado State (who already beat a Big 12 team) and Air Force (who nearly beat a Big 10 team). UNLV also BARELY lost to a decent Oregon State team.

9/17/2009 7:21:02 PM

I feel dumb forgetting about the always stable Air Force and CSU. Still. Not #3.

9/18/2009 3:41:42 PM

Quote :

"MWC has Colorado State (who already beat a Big 12 team) "

whatever man, Colorado subsequently lost to Toledo by like 30...A LOT of teams are going to beat Colorado this year.

Quote :

"Duke lost to a 1-AA team"

they didn't lose to just any 1-AA team they lost to the reigning FCS champion, it's not something to be proud of but it's not THAT embarrassing considering it's Duke and not Michigan

Quote :

"and Air Force (who nearly beat a Big 10 team). UNLV also BARELY lost to a decent Oregon State team."

I forgot you get a half a win for barely losing.

The MWC is a damn good conference, easily the best non-automatic qualifier conference but they aren't better than the ACC or the Big East.

9/18/2009 4:32:14 PM

All I responded to was the statement that duke would kill the mwc's #4... which I don't think is true... Duke is hideously bad again and those mwc teams aren't terrible... With the scholarship differences there is NO excuse for a bcs conference team to lose to a 1-aa team. Period.

9/18/2009 6:11:41 PM

A team like App St (or the App State the last few years) or Richmond could beat the bottom dweller in any BCS conference on a given Saturday

9/18/2009 6:44:18 PM

Wow this guy totally stole my thread. ACC football sucks combined with credibility watch. Jacked on both fronts.

9/19/2009 1:51:59 AM

^ Sometimes your credibility wavers, but you did create a quality thread in the original ACC credibility watch.

9/19/2009 2:04:15 AM

well...that's how we do it...REPRESENTING THE ACC

9/19/2009 9:36:09 AM

Good boost today IMO.

Virginia Tech, UNC, and Florida State picked up good wins but Maryland had an embarrassing loss and UVA and Duke also lost.

9/20/2009 3:19:57 AM

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections?season=2009&week=3

we still get no love as far as bowl predictions go...

9/20/2009 5:56:37 PM

you got a problem with directional Michigan?

9/20/2009 6:21:08 PM

January 6th is very late. Good thing the first day of classes won't start until that next Monday.

9/20/2009 6:59:35 PM

Here is the TRUE strength of conferences thus far for the '09 season:


1. SEC (I hated typing this one)
2. Big 12
3. Pac 10 (California and UCLA are slowly bringing some balance to the conference)
4. ACC
5. Big 10 (Penn State and Ohio State may go toe to toe with Miami/VT, but our conference is wayyyy
deeper this year from top to bottom then the big 10
6. Mountain West
7. Conference USA (Houston and Southern Miss would run circles around ANY Big East squad!)
8. Big East

9/21/2009 1:53:19 AM

Quote :

"Houston and Southern Miss would run circles around ANY Big East squad!"

Haha nice. I love how you keep trying so hard....

Southern Miss barely beat UVA.....come on. UVA lost to William & Mary. They might go winless in the ACC.

9/21/2009 2:23:06 AM

This weekend was more good news for the ACC...

The great news
FSU - huge freakin' win against BYU
V-Tech - survived against Nebraska, and hey... a win is a win
UNC - hate to say it, but yes the damn tarholes manhandled an ECU team that was supposed to give them trouble
Miami - looking good for the 1st time in, what, 5 years or so?

Decent news
NC State - did what needed to be done... making it two straight blow-outs against FCS teams
Wake - plenty of ?'s, but they've rebounded after the Baylor loss.
Clemson - actually looks pretty good despite having a 1st-time, 1st-year head coach
G-tech - looks good, aside from getting crushed by Miami, and is still a good pick to win the Coastal division

Teams with BAD coaches that are about to be shown the door)
Maryland - The Fridge... dude you can't lose 2 consectutive games to MIDDLE Tennessee... STATE...
Virginia - Alright, seriously, who didn't see the Southern Miss loss coming?

Who knows...
Duke - not like they were expected to compete against KU
BC - Thanks again for your coach. How's your new guy working out? Oh he got fired? Really? So how's the NEW new guy working out? TOB says hi btw

9/21/2009 7:47:56 AM

MIDDLE Tennessee... STATE...

9/21/2009 8:13:58 AM

Quote :

"7. Conference USA (Houston and Southern Miss would run circles around ANY Big East squad!)"

AHAHAHAHAHAH, Southern Miss barely beat UVa and you think they'd run circles around Pitt or WVU or USF? You're so deluded, you must be an ECU fan (likely still trying to convince yourself that ECU will ever leave C-USA).

Quote :

"BC - Thanks again for your coach. How's your new guy working out? Oh he got fired? Really? So how's the NEW new guy working out? TOB says hi btw "

Not gonna be cocky like that until we actually beat BC again...and it's not like Jag got fired for having a terrible team.

[Edited on September 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM. Reason : .]

9/21/2009 10:40:55 AM