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doublepost. IE8 best browser.

4/7/2010 2:57:56 PM

Golovko
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Thats cool and all but how is that new? I guess the onhashchange event is new? I've been building ajax applications and using location.hash for quite some time so when users bookmark they get the same page content they bookmarked even without using traditional page navigation.

^that would be a triple post.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2010 3:09:42 PM

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It makes the Forward and Back button work effortlessly on AJAX sites.

So say you've got page.php#Query1 and you click something that takes you to page.php#Query2 and your inner content refreshes.

If you hit the Back button normally, it doesn't take you back to your page.php#Query1 information. The hash changes, but the content of the page doesn't. With this, you can just put the same handler into onhashchange than you have in your onload/ondomready to parse your bookmark and it makes it so that #Query1 loads.

It basically eliminates the need for all the hacks that get that behavior working, like constantly checking the hash for changes in JavaScript or dumping everything into an IFrame and using that to control Forward/Back.

Here's a little more information: http://ajaxian.com/archives/html-5-the-event-loop-hashchange-and-more

Apparently IE8 has supported this since the beta, but it doesn't look like any other browser supports it currently.

edit edit: Looks like Firefox 3.6+ and Chrome 5+ support it.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 3:19 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2010 3:15:16 PM

Golovko
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oh nice, well i guess that would make things easier with development.

4/7/2010 3:21:24 PM

Golovko
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http://stevenclark.com.au/2010/04/09/free-web-design-deflates-the-industry-profit-pool/

4/16/2010 1:06:02 PM

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Yeah its like seeing all those posts on craigslist where people want to pay a web developer $15/hr.

They think just because their nephew jimmy can play around on yahoo page builder that anybody can make a custom website for free/cheap. Whats worse is that people accept these low paying jobs with the logic that any job is better than no job.

Makes it suck for the rest of us who actually try to make a living from it, the viable client pool is much smaller.

4/16/2010 2:28:48 PM

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Well I mean, part of the problem is that there aren't really well-known professional organizations out there that help to lend credibility to the field.


Sure, you can join IXDA (I'm a member myself), but MOST folks don't know what it is, and it's really not webdesign exclusive.


If we had an AIGA or IDSA level professional organization that took dues and maintained professional awareness, it'd go really far to limit this $15 an hour bullshit sitework we see have to compete against.

4/17/2010 3:05:06 PM

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How can this thread have gotten to two pages without the monkey boy video imbedded?

4/17/2010 3:10:37 PM

Golovko
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^whats that?

4/19/2010 3:56:09 PM

Kris
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"They think just because their nephew jimmy can play around on yahoo page builder that anybody can make a custom website for free/cheap."


Most people can, it doesn't take that much training to be able to make static html pages. Contracting and freelancing are hard businesses, especially if it's at something that doesn't take a lot of training to make. The easiest way for a professional designer/developer to make it is to be hired by a company as a designer/developer. Companies that need professional designers are more than willing to pay for them.

4/21/2010 6:55:01 PM

gs7
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^^Seriously?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc

4/21/2010 6:56:47 PM

Golovko
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ROFLOLMAOCOPTER! That was almost difficult to watch...wow! WTF?

4/22/2010 2:08:11 AM

kiljadn
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"Companies that need professional designers are more than willing to pay for them."


Which is why I don't bother with freelancing anymore.



But what I said still holds true. There needs to be a professional-level organization that supports Web Development. It's still a craft that not many can do, and it needs peer-level recognizability.

[Edited on April 22, 2010 at 1:23 PM. Reason : .]

4/22/2010 1:21:00 PM

Golovko
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"Which is why I don't bother with freelancing anymore."


I know a lot of people, myself included, that have had great success with freelancing.

Part of it is knowing when & how to say no. I've had plenty of potential work come my way (some from friends of the family) where I've said no because what they're looking for is something that's cheap and done by a friend which isn't what I do. (the typical made in frontpage type stuff).

4/22/2010 2:32:37 PM

kiljadn
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^Yeah, that's the stuff I don't do.

I work on contracts for companies and projects that pay well.


It's all about ROTI.

4/23/2010 3:48:45 PM

nacstate
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"Most people can, it doesn't take that much training to be able to make static html pages. Contracting and freelancing are hard businesses, especially if it's at something that doesn't take a lot of training to make. The easiest way for a professional designer/developer to make it is to be hired by a company as a designer/developer. Companies that need professional designers are more than willing to pay for them."


Thats why I don't rely on freelancing, I mostly do it occasionally so I can work on something different/fun. Its still crap that people expect so much for so little too often in that industry though.

4/23/2010 4:22:01 PM

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Because collections of great jQuery tips are worthwhile to keep tabs on:

http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/04/27/45-useful-jquery-techniques-and-plugins/

4/27/2010 9:42:00 PM

kiljadn
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How often do you guys get clients who change shit after you give them the final deliverable and then complain to you because they fucking broke it?

[Edited on April 28, 2010 at 4:23 PM. Reason : twice this week.]

4/28/2010 4:23:21 PM

Tarun
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(development)

[Edited on April 28, 2010 at 4:30 PM. Reason : link]

4/28/2010 4:30:27 PM

Golovko
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^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(development)

4/28/2010 4:31:21 PM

qntmfred
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we just watched this video at work during a lunch and learn session

10 WAYS TO ATTACK A DESIGN PROBLEM AND COME OUT WINNING
http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/EX06

4/29/2010 1:21:29 PM

Golovko
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For all you 99designs.com haters...now is your chance to really stick it to them. They have been nominated for a Webby and Webby's are won via user votes. Go vote for anyone but them

dropbox is also up for the award which is probably where my vote will go.

4/29/2010 1:50:13 PM

CarZin
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removed,

[Edited on April 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM. Reason : ,]

4/29/2010 3:01:22 PM

Golovko
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^you should post that in the 'official tech jobs' thread. Probably get better luck there.

4/29/2010 3:07:06 PM

CarZin
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I'll do that. I'll remove the previous post.

4/29/2010 3:11:03 PM

kiljadn
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Best ways to get ramped up on ASP.NET quickly?


Post them in reply to my query plx.


I've already done the "Hello World" MVC thing on the asp.net page.

5/3/2010 9:42:10 PM

Stein
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As both are mad at Apple, Google and Adobe are becoming BFF: http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/30/flash-player-to-come-bundled-with-google-chrome-new-browser-plugin-api-coming/

5/4/2010 2:09:27 PM

Golovko
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Thats hardly newsworthy. (not directed at you for posting it here). but I mean...Flash bundled with Chrome? Thats not really going to attract new users because chances are if you are knowledgeable enough to use Chrome over IE then you probably already have Flash.

The other issues addressed, it does very little in terms of performance. 10.1 is more of a threat to HTML5 then this. Also, I think Chrome is similar to Safari that when Flash crashes (as it does) it doesn't take the entire browser with it but rather just the plugin needs a restart.

5/4/2010 2:26:48 PM

Stein
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I just find it interesting that while you have Apple trying it's hardest to kill Flash and push HTML5, you've got one of, if not, the most HTML5 friendly browsers still realizing that Flash has it's place.

Also I just realized this article is from a month and a half ago, so it semi-predates a lot of this Adobe/Apple/Google animosity.

5/4/2010 3:02:37 PM

Golovko
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"I just find it interesting that while you have Apple trying it's hardest to kill Flash and push HTML5, you've got one of, if not, the most HTML5 friendly browsers still realizing that Flash has it's place."


I think google has its hand in a little bit of EVERYTHING so there will always be a conflict of interest for them.

Apples gripe with Flash on a mobile platform is very valid. They've also just opened the way for Adobe to improve Flash performance on a full Mac OS X platform.

5/4/2010 3:10:09 PM

Ernie
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http://code.google.com/webfonts

o damn

5/19/2010 4:06:09 PM

Golovko
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o damn indeed! nice find.

5/19/2010 4:12:30 PM

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what's a good free html editor for OSX. save the "notepad/TextEdit/shell" remarks.

6/8/2010 8:09:01 PM

qntmfred
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bump

9/16/2010 1:37:33 PM

Prospero
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http://www.goodfuckingdesignadvice.com/

9/16/2010 1:40:37 PM

qntmfred
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anybody know of any good podcasts on design?

[Edited on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM. Reason : not web design. classical graphic design]

9/16/2010 1:46:17 PM

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podcasts on graphic design, i find that a little funny, audio trying to explain something visual... lol.

sorry, i'm not helping. i'll ask around the office.

[Edited on September 16, 2010 at 1:58 PM. Reason : .]

9/16/2010 1:58:12 PM

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"what's a good free html editor for OSX. save the "notepad/TextEdit/shell" remarks."
Smultron: http://sourceforge.net/projects/smultron/files/
If you prefer some WYSIWYG: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Kompozer

9/16/2010 2:37:09 PM

Ernie
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Anyone in the business of peddling their wares on the open market?

I've been poking around http://themeforest.net and I'm wondering if there are better alternatives

[Edited on November 3, 2010 at 9:39 PM. Reason : Well, damn, apparently I asked the same question in March]

11/3/2010 9:37:46 PM

lewisje
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admit it your contributions are worthless

11/3/2010 10:37:55 PM

kiljadn
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^^ I've been thinking about it, but I always seem to find something else to do with my spare time

11/4/2010 11:12:47 PM

qntmfred
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"Like most web developers, I occasionally like to look at the source of websites to see how their markup is built. Tools like Firebug and Chrome Developer Tools make it easy to inspect the code, but if I want to copy an isolated section and play around with it locally, it would be a pain to copy all the individual elements and their associated css. And probably just as much work to save the entire source and pare out the unrelated code.

It would be great if I could right-click a node in Firebug and have a "Save html+css for this node" option. Does such a tool exist?
"

3/25/2011 3:18:20 PM

kiljadn
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^ or "save to jsfiddle"

3/25/2011 4:44:47 PM

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Dunno if this is the right place to ask, but I want to learn my ass how to do stuff with jQuery (sorry for all the technical jargon). Does anybody have a site or book they'd recommend?

3/26/2011 12:18:28 PM

kiljadn
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http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/javascript-ajax/15-resources-to-get-you-started-with-jquery-from-scratch/

3/26/2011 6:00:13 PM

Ernie
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Important resources:

http://placekitten.com

4/3/2011 11:37:51 PM

Ernie
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http://www.google.com/webfonts/v2

6/28/2011 4:39:02 PM

qntmfred
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nice

6/28/2011 5:06:41 PM

robster
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YAY ... I can finally use fonts in a way that seems to be less of a PITA

6/28/2011 5:21:48 PM

Ernie
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Forgot http://subtlepatterns.com

6/28/2011 5:23:50 PM

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