man i thought you guys were nitpicking about leona lewis, but that trailer would awesome on mute. that music annoyed the crap out of me. sounded like a mariah carey song in the background.

1/14/2010 11:54:34 AM

well this isn't the first time they have had some singer do a real crappy love song

usually they have been j pop stars

why do they do this? don't they know who they are trying to appeal to here?

stick with nobuo or someone like him and you will be fine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6kt488iWk8 - man that music just warms my heart every time

[Edited on January 14, 2010 at 12:23 PM. Reason : .]

1/14/2010 12:00:20 PM

^ they've been doing it since FF8 i think. i'll take those crappy love songs any day over that horrible death metal song or whatever it was from FF10

1/14/2010 2:13:47 PM

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Might actually have to finally get a 360 just for this.

3/3/2010 12:28:37 AM

nuked release leaked. I wonder if I could still play it on my banned xbox -- or is this pretty much MMO type shit by now? I haven't played FF since VII and VIII.

3/3/2010 12:43:50 AM

Na its RPG. XIV however is going back to being MMO.

3/3/2010 1:21:24 AM

i don't like what i've heard about it being extremely linear with no towns

3/3/2010 2:50:31 AM

Why would you get it for xbox360 instead of ps3? I haven't seen any cross-platform reviews yet, but I would expect the graphics at least to be better on ps3 with less compression, and FFXIII Versus will be on PS3 only.

3/3/2010 12:07:07 PM

Maybe he doesn't have a PS3

3/3/2010 12:11:14 PM

Right, but he's saying he might finally get a 360, so he doesn't have a 360 either. I'm wondering why, if you're going to get a console to play this, you would choose the 360 instead of a ps3.

3/3/2010 2:37:50 PM

I still don't know who you're talking about

3/3/2010 3:07:17 PM

^ Master_Yoda

3/3/2010 3:30:41 PM

A few days ago +70% of the PS3s worldwide quit working for 24 hours. I think that's reason enough on its own. I actually thought the timing of that ordeal in relation to the release of FFXIII made it even worse for Sony.

Having said that, I intend to buy the PS3 version so my brother can borrow it when I'm done.

3/3/2010 3:39:14 PM

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"A few days ago +70% of the PS3s worldwide quit working for 24 hours. I think that's reason enough on its own."

oh no, a 24 hour problem. clearly it is a much wiser option to choose the alternative console that has for over 4 years experienced serious issues with poorly contructed hardware and quality control!

3/3/2010 4:11:40 PM

touche sir

3/3/2010 4:28:08 PM

really? still with the ps3 vs xbox smack talk?

3/3/2010 4:29:32 PM

To be fair, anyone throwing the ApocalyPS3 in PS3 owners' faces after years of the Red Ring of Death needs to get knocked down to size.

[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 4:32 PM. Reason : Post #45,000.]

3/3/2010 4:32:44 PM

^^ not trying to turn it into smack talk, just trying to point out a flaw in the logic

[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2010 4:34:33 PM

And to be clear, I wasn't trying to stir the pot at all. I haven't read anything indicating FFXIII would be better on either platform, so I was asking a genuine question in case he had some info I hadn't seen about it yet.

3/3/2010 5:36:30 PM

For the record I have neither. I do have a PS2.

While traditionally I am a PS guy, with PS3, this is the only game Id care to play on it. With 360, there are a few other games Id get/play if I had one, but none to make me get the console just to play it, other than this one.

That and they are pushing the 360 more with this. Its long been said the PS3 needs a FF game just for it to really sell it. Its one of the big reasons the PS1 and 2 were so successful, as FF was only on them. Its good that its successful now on its own, but it really needed one to open it up and I personally think it would be beating even the Wii then. </ PSfanboyrant>

3/4/2010 9:09:22 AM

8 was the best

3/4/2010 9:17:45 AM

Mystic Quest was the best.


[Edited on March 4, 2010 at 11:26 AM. Reason : ]

3/4/2010 11:26:13 AM

^^ shut up troll

3/4/2010 1:16:15 PM

Ive never been called a troll. Since when are facts trolling?

3/4/2010 1:19:47 PM

because 8 is the worst. the story is ok, but the battle system sucks, and the character development is weak as hell.

3/4/2010 1:57:28 PM

I've been re-playing X for the last few weeks. I like that one for the story, along with it's an easy game to pick back up and I like the non-time based system so I can casually play and not stress out.

I remember back in the day when I logged 88 hrs on that game and still hadn't done "everything". Currently about 30hrs in and still somewhat entertaining.

I'm definetely looking forward to this game!

3/4/2010 2:25:32 PM

im getting this for ps3

have a 360 but since it was developed for the ps3 primarily i think it's the best choice

that and playing a FF game on the 360 would be weird

3/4/2010 2:27:40 PM

^^ X is the only final fantasy where random battles didn't become an absolute chore for me late in the game because i liked doing shit on the sphere grid

3/4/2010 2:39:38 PM

old snes fan boys used to think playing it on playstation was weird

those bastards never gave FFVII the gushing it deserved because all they could think about was jerking off on their FFIII (American) cartridges

3/4/2010 2:57:06 PM

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"old snes fan boys used to think playing it on playstation was weird those bastards never gave FFVII the gushing it deserved because all they could think about was jerking off on their FFIII (American) cartridges"

guilty.

I liked FF2 almost as much as I did FF3. FF7 was bad ass tho.

3/4/2010 3:14:36 PM

i still think III (VI) had the best character development of any final fantasy thus far

3/4/2010 3:37:10 PM

i played VI after VII

i wish they would remake both and forget making new ones cuz they've all sucked since X

3/4/2010 4:13:48 PM

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"because 8 is the worst. the story is ok, but the battle system sucks, and the character development is weak as hell."

wrong. it is the best. The story was great and the battle system was fun and unique. Character development was what you made of it and the time you spent on them.

You are wrong.

3/4/2010 4:28:25 PM

The battles look confusing as hell and linear gameplay =

3/4/2010 4:51:14 PM

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"wrong. it is the best. The story was great and the battle system was fun and unique. Character development was what you made of it and the time you spent on them. You are wrong."

Are we talking about the same game?

[Edited on March 4, 2010 at 5:29 PM. Reason : ]

3/4/2010 5:29:10 PM

fuck all of you nerds that ruin every thread arguing over the best FF game

i hate all of you

3/4/2010 5:33:02 PM

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"wrong. it is the best. The story was great and the battle system was fun and unique. Character development was what you made of it and the time you spent on them. You are wrong."

the battle system started out fun and unique. it became a pain in the ass once you had to spend hours getting in random battles just to raise your magic stock since your characters' overall strength was directly proportional to the amount of magic you had junctioned to stats. it's cool in theory, but having to run around the world map or in dungeons because you just encountered monsters with cura and needed to get a high number of it to have the highest possible HP is just tedious and gets old extremely quickly.

the other problem with the battle system was the reliance on the GFs. no, you don't have to use them if you don't want to, but why let a battle drag out and deplete your stock of attack and support magic that is directly tied to your stats when summoning ifrit against a boss that is weak against fire causes more damage than casting fira on it? i guess it makes it more of a challenge, but then you have to spend time drawing magic from enemies to raise your stock/stats again.

another thing that makes GFs necessary is the fact that characters you don't use will not level up at the same rate as the characters you choose in your party. you can look at it as more of a challenge if you enjoy wasting hours leveling up characters you don't care to use, i guess. but when you're forced to use those characters and they are significantly weaker than your main characters, the GF becomes necessary to protect them and absorb damage. you don't have that luxury in FFVI or FFIX. and let's not forget how easy it is to exploit the limit break system.

and in terms of the character development, there just wasn't a whole lot to make of it. you really didn't get much outside of a few cut scenes and small bits of dialogue from choosing specific characters to take with you. 90% of the character development went towards squall and rinoa. everyone else came off pretty flat.

[Edited on March 4, 2010 at 5:58 PM. Reason : i love the card game though]

3/4/2010 5:52:41 PM

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"fuck all of you nerds that ruin every FF thread arguing over the best FF game"

3/4/2010 7:09:42 PM

lol FF thread pwnt stay home

3/4/2010 8:57:44 PM

god dammit i knew it

3/4/2010 9:43:37 PM

it looks like the reponse to this game should be very interesting, i just read the gamespot review and they said it's very linear, it looks like they are putting the entire focus on battle to do something new

3/5/2010 3:29:11 PM

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/05/review-final-fantasy-xiii/

Says the game doesn't get good until 15 1/2 hours in

HAHA a baby chocobo lives in the black guy's afro

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM. Reason : .]

3/5/2010 4:19:11 PM

^ i've heard it doesn't even open up from the extreme linear aspect until 30 hours in. i can't see the story lasting much longer than 30-40 hours.

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 4:26 PM. Reason : .]

3/5/2010 4:25:51 PM

I don't ding games for linearity. Sandbox is the big buzzword for any game now, but there a lot of ways to get a sandbox game all wrong. If a game tells a linear story but it's a damn good one, I don't care. I'm sure it will play out in actuality similar to most other FF games: less restrictive than FFX-2, but more restrictive than FFXII. Sidequests only became a big deal from FFVII and beyond, but most of them have always been towards the end of a story anyway (with the major exceptions being stuff like the card games and blitzball that are less sidequest and more mini-game).

3/5/2010 4:52:49 PM

Quote :

"Sidequests only became a big deal from FFVII and beyond"

there were a bunch in VI

3/5/2010 5:03:17 PM

I just don't get the linearity complaints. FF games have always been linear. When it comes to completing the main quest, there is only one path to take. You have this giant world map, but most of the time, there is only one place for you to go. The side quests give you something else to do, but it's really just a form of grinding. Some of the reviews have nailed it in saying all they've done is remove the illusion of non-linearity.

3/5/2010 5:18:58 PM

I don't care much for sidequests anyway. Most of the time they're more tedious than anything. I usually want to get to the next plot point and only resort to sidequests when the game is over and I'm like MOAR.

^True, in FF VI you can do just about anything once you get the airship in the World of Ruin.

3/5/2010 5:28:58 PM

True about VI, now that I think of it. I guess having playable characters that are optional and unlockable as a side quest qualifies as major.

Still mostly the focus towards the end of the game though, which sounds like it's still the case. I think the griping by reviewers is solely based on expectations from previous iterations of the franchise, though, and not based on judging the game on its own merits. I liked how the gamespot review acknowledged this and still said the linear quality of the game was what made the storyline so engaging. Wired has a much more scathing review on their site, but it sounded like their reviewer was simply turned off by the changes and was viewing everything through a more negative angle from the get-go because of it.

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 5:42 PM. Reason : ]

3/5/2010 5:35:04 PM

sheesh didn't you i don't care about sidequests people play ff7? the golden saucer alone was freaking awesome, and the gamespot review said everything was streamlined, ie even the leveling and customization, plus they aren't even doing towns anymore

3/5/2010 8:22:53 PM

i'm not going to lie, i really like linear games. will be picking this up for ps3.

3/5/2010 10:35:30 PM