But it's also a lot harder to run through USF, UConn and Rutgers than it is Wyoming, UNLV and Air Force. Those teams simply aren't comparable and while TCU doesn't have a CHOICE in that, you can't ignore it either.

I mean if all else is equal should that not matter? Trust me, I'm all for blowing up the BCS to hell for good, don't get me wrong, but it is what it is right now. The teams with the tougher conferences/schedules are going to get the votes.

Don't see how TCU or Boise can get upset at anything but the current system. I don't think either got jobbed within the system.

If anything, the idiocy of preseason polls actually HELPED TCU remain 4th for so long because they started the season higher ranked than Cincy. If not for that, they wouldn't have been "jumped" because they wouldn't have been ahead in the first place.

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 9:10 PM. Reason : and those three big east teams i mentioned are NOT bottom scrapers no matter how much u hate the be]

12/6/2009 9:10:11 PM

after the bs season the pack had after '8-4 type expectations' + the bs the bcs w/o playoffs + the texas/nebraska where nebraska ugh.. + tim tebow + tcu/boise never gonna have a chance in hell...

i hate college football. ugh. but ill be back

i always come back to it

12/6/2009 9:13:12 PM

Utah/Bama... Boise/OK and even TCU/Boise last season says to me that TCU got jobbed.



but in the current system, what's fair is fair, and what happened is the way it should have happened under the current system.

12/6/2009 9:14:43 PM

TCU got jobbed because margin of victory was removed. They slaughtered the other two MWC teams worth a damn and had only 2 close games all year. That's what youre supposed to do to prove youre a dominant team in a lesser conference - except it doesn't matter at all.

12/6/2009 9:15:35 PM

The BCS was better before it was neutered. The people complaining about the system demanded that first, the computers be delegitimized in the formula (so now it almost completely tied to the coaches poll), margin of victory be taken out, and the AP pulled out in a media stunt. Those are the factors that were built into the system to accomodate the instances where there are multiple solid teams like this year.

12/6/2009 9:22:44 PM

I know that Iowa is #10 in the BCS polls, but picking them for a BCS really bothers me. They have lost two of the last three, have 2 skilled position players (QB and RB) out for the season and aren't as good as a 3 loss SEC team(LSU) or a 3 loss ACC (V-Tech)team, in my opinion. Am I wrong thinking this?

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM. Reason : forgot the word out.]

12/6/2009 9:23:24 PM

how very convinient that the two "bcs-busters" play each other and still don't get a chance at a team from a bcs conference. i guess the BCS really is protecting their own

12/6/2009 9:38:11 PM

might as well call it division 1a and 1b with a national champion for each.

12/6/2009 10:50:05 PM

What's the point spread for the Cincy-Florida game? 90?

12/6/2009 10:51:10 PM

Opening Lines (from just a couple books)

Oregon -3.5
Florida -10.5
TCU -8
GT -3.5
Bama -5 (O/U @ 45.5)

12/6/2009 11:08:51 PM

ouch. BC gets USC in San Fran. Guess all of BC's 10 fans will get to watch them get their asses kicked.

12/7/2009 7:33:13 AM

I'm hard pressed to think of a year where all the BCS bowls feel as meaningless as they do this year. They're just as meaningless as the bowl games that go to the 6-6 teams.

It's nice to know that there will definitely be two undefeated teams at the end of the year, hopefully there will be three undefeated teams. Nice how they scheduled Boise St. and TCU together. I guess they figure they can just ignore the winner of that game so they can crown their "champion".

The bowl selection show on Fox was terrible. That one guy trying to legitimize the BCS system... don't try it, it's not possible. Then they cut to a live feed of the schools they just screwed. You're undefeated and not going to the championship game... how do you feel? Plus that intro that reminded everyone how even one loss can dash a teams championship dream. Well now you can't even go to the big game if you're undefeated, so I guess the real thing keeping you out of the big game is one flawed system.

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[Edited on December 7, 2009 at 7:59 AM. Reason : -]

12/7/2009 7:57:23 AM

I understand the reason behind Boise and TCU not getting in the title game, those teams basically have to pray that all the other teams from major conferences lose at least one. What pisses me off so bad is that the BCS committee rather than give both of these teams shots to once again prove they can beat the BCS schools says... well.. if both of them are gonna get in lets just pair em against each other so even if one of them is gonna end up undefeated we can just say well look who they played against in their bowl game. I would have loved to see TCU put up against florida in the sugar and Boise at least up against Iowa in the fiesta and let GT/Cincy have the usual ACC/Big East Orange Bowl matchup.

12/7/2009 8:35:00 AM

Caught this last night when they were talking about the Peach Bowl haha

12/7/2009 9:06:15 AM

lady volunteers? lol

12/7/2009 10:04:55 AM

12/7/2009 10:10:26 AM

well im picking va tech then jesse

12/7/2009 11:06:49 AM

Quote :

"I would have loved to see TCU put up against florida in the sugar and Boise at least up against Iowa in the fiesta and let GT/Cincy have the usual ACC/Big East Orange Bowl matchup."

Is that the usual?

2005: Utah beat Pitt in the Fiesta
2006: WVU beat Georgia in the Sugar
2007: Louisville beat Wake in the Orange
2008: WVU beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta
2009: Va Tech beat Cincy in the Orange
2010: Cincy plays Florida in the Sugar

So only 2 of the last 6 Big East champs have played in the Orange Bowl. I do agree, though, that it is a MAJOR cop-out to have TCU-Boise in a BCS bowl... They should just come out and say they only want teams from four conferences to play in the Natty (Big XII, Big 10, Pac-10, SEC).

12/7/2009 11:35:28 AM

When does the ACC's tie in with the Orange run out? I imagine theyre regretting that deal quite a bit since F$U and Miami tanked

12/7/2009 1:19:04 PM

Touche I did not realize that lately the Big East hasnt been playing in the orange bowl that much. I just always thought the Orange was typically ACC vs. Big East unless it was the title game that year or one of those school was playing for the title in another bowl. Either way I mean Cincy and Florida is still a good game I suppose they could have just put TCU up against the ACC and Boise against Iowa or vice versa. I will admit though Id still rather watch TCU vs. Boise than GT vs. Iowa.

12/7/2009 4:02:49 PM

give me liberty or give me death

12/8/2009 11:14:13 AM

this New Mexico bowl ended up being good after all

edit: Wyoming just missed a FG to win it. Headed to double OT

[Edited on December 19, 2009 at 8:02 PM. Reason : fucking kickers]

12/19/2009 7:59:05 PM

haha. double fail.

12/19/2009 8:02:11 PM

there goes my bracket

12/19/2009 8:16:42 PM

hell of a kickoff

12/19/2009 8:23:56 PM

Beavers vs. Cougars

12/22/2009 8:00:05 PM

SIX YARD PUNT

12/22/2009 9:14:33 PM

12/22/2009 9:37:12 PM

jeff ruiz has met his match

12/22/2009 9:39:52 PM

Holy crap, how strong is that wind?

12/22/2009 9:40:51 PM

Lol.

Dude punted for 28, 64, 6, and 6 yards

12/23/2009 10:03:02 AM

california off to a quick start

12/23/2009 8:27:59 PM

cal might get blown out

12/23/2009 9:22:08 PM

nevada didnt show up tonight

good to see how many pts i put on them in the bowl mania game

12/24/2009 9:15:30 PM

what's the best place to stream the bowl games online for free? I'll be in a place this weekend that won't have access to TVs or cable, but I'll have my laptop and internet.

12/24/2009 9:52:10 PM

id do the line judge for the marshall ohio game!

12/26/2009 1:29:27 PM

^ Haha. Just posted a shit chat thread about it.

12/26/2009 1:30:47 PM

i didn't get a great look, but i'm pretty sure i would as well.

12/26/2009 1:48:49 PM

Today, we are all Pitt Panthers

12/26/2009 2:51:43 PM

they should use the panther growl during the game

12/26/2009 2:59:31 PM

ohio marshall is case in point why we have too many bowl games

12/26/2009 3:20:10 PM

yeah, i like a lot of useless bowl games

but this game is uber boring

12/26/2009 3:26:10 PM

this looks like a NY Jets training camp session

12/26/2009 3:26:51 PM

kudos to pam ward for comparing a flop personal foul penalty to a duke basketball player

12/26/2009 3:39:39 PM

I always picture Ohio being much further west... they just said that Ohio U is really close to Marshall

12/26/2009 4:13:53 PM

unc's gonna win this game...i hate to admit it. pitt took a turd on the end of the season for a bcs bowl...they arent gonna be as up for this as unc

12/26/2009 4:49:21 PM

dumbass little

12/26/2009 4:56:19 PM

wow you just scored a TD in a shitty bowl... let's kick the ball into the stands

12/26/2009 4:56:25 PM

lol @ the stands. and i thought panther games were looking empty this year

12/26/2009 4:56:30 PM

what a selfish prick

12/26/2009 4:57:51 PM