Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
at least it wasnt mccoy or teblow so i'll take it 12/12/2009 8:55:59 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
Should have been Suh 12/12/2009 8:56:43 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder if Tebow is going to cry at Ingram crying 12/12/2009 8:56:55 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Suh would have been the Woodson choice, one big game is not > entire season.
[Edited on December 12, 2009 at 8:59 PM. Reason : d] 12/12/2009 8:58:24 PM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
wtf, suh fourth. 12/12/2009 9:01:54 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't know google did "latest results" that gives you live new results as they appear on the internet... 12/12/2009 9:10:29 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Alabama must be upset that they can no longer say "We don't win Heismans, we win championships." 12/12/2009 9:45:25 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^^fairly new. part of the live search craze that was spurred by bing/twitter/facebook 12/12/2009 9:54:34 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
something like 90% of the results were from twitter 12/12/2009 10:08:13 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Why did they even invite 5 guys? It was pretty much a no brainer.
1) Alabama is an SEC team 2) Alabama beat Florida 3) Alabama is playing for the BCS title 4) Tebow had already won a Heisman
Stats don't matter, just the facts I listed. 12/12/2009 10:24:57 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
you should probably look at his stats anyway. he dominated against every ranked team he played against 12/12/2009 10:36:06 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Alabama must be upset that they can no longer say "We don't win Heismans, we win championships."" |
Of course, now they can say, "We win Heismans and championships. Also, we win them by a statistically significant margin."
I would love to see that on a t-shirt.12/12/2009 10:37:52 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
i thought Ingram deserved to win. i'd have put Gerhart a close second so i'm not displeased with the results at all.
[Edited on December 12, 2009 at 10:58 PM. Reason : k] 12/12/2009 10:58:15 PM |
KaYaK Suspended 919 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, I didn't know Ingram was the first Alabama player to ever win the Heisman. You would think with their storied history someone at some point would have won one over the years. 12/12/2009 11:01:26 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
they had 3 qbs who were great back in the day that im not sure how they didnt win. Joe Namath, Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler (who grew up in my hometown of Foley, AL)
[Edited on December 12, 2009 at 11:15 PM. Reason : though they prob didnt throw much as bama liked to run the ball] 12/12/2009 11:13:47 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
QBs often get robbed... it happens 12/12/2009 11:15:12 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 12, 2009 at 11:21 PM. Reason : Namath made all of 374 pass attempts in college. How about that]
12/12/2009 11:19:28 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Champ Bailey was robbed 12/12/2009 11:22:21 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Suh would have been the Woodson choice, one big game is not > entire season." |
lol you think he only had one big game.
so was tebow the lowest vote getter ever invited to the ceremony? his inclusion was a fucking joke12/12/2009 11:55:50 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
no one knew who he was until he had a 4 sack game. without that his numbers dont look any better than probably a number of DT's in college football 12/12/2009 11:57:44 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
^ i tend to agree. one good game does not a season make. no matter who the opponent is. 12/13/2009 12:02:11 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ he was a solid DT aside from that game, but not Heisman worthy. 12/13/2009 12:08:45 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
A pure defensive player will win in the next ten years, IMO
He'll have to be on a top 10 team, have his three best games on National TV, and not have any runners or passers really stand out
But I think it will happen 12/13/2009 12:08:48 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
it could, but all those things happening in one season really is the perfect storm of circumstance. 12/13/2009 12:11:32 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Say Brandon Spikes had 15 sacks and 5 picks this year, including one returned for a touchdown with 2 minutes left to win the game vs Alabama...he could very well have won it
I think there will be 2 more near misses for defensive players as voters realize that they have just as much of an impact on the game as QB's and running backs...then finally, someone will break through, and it will start a trend of a defensive player winning every 7-8 years or so from then on 12/13/2009 12:16:13 AM |
2009ncsu Veteran 347 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Wow, I didn't know Ingram was the first Alabama player to ever win the Heisman. You would think with their storied history someone at some point would have won one over the years." |
I didn't know before this year either but I'm down at Auburn right now and that's all they ever talked about this year.
Apparently 2 Heisman winners >>>> 12 National Championships.12/13/2009 1:04:44 AM |
KaYaK Suspended 919 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no one knew who he was until he had a 4 sack game. without that his numbers dont look any better than probably a number of DT's in college football" |
Kiper had him #1 on his big board even before the UT game.12/13/2009 8:04:54 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
yeah he tends to have a lot of linemen as #1's all the time...but you arent gonna sit here and tell me everyone follows what kiper says and that they know every single joe schmoe offensive and defensive linemen throughout the entire season... 12/13/2009 8:13:19 PM |
KaYaK Suspended 919 Posts user info edit post |
I had heard about him weeks ago because ESPN had been talking about him because he was absolutely dominating games. 12/13/2009 8:27:31 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
and clearly you represent the masses of america, right? 12/13/2009 8:35:26 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ it doesnt matter one bit what Kiper had him at... that is the NFL draft board, not the best college football player draft board. Come on man!
^^ plenty of people have heard of him, that doesnt make him Heisman worthy. He only had one completely crazy game and that was the Big 12 CG
[Edited on December 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM. Reason : d] 12/13/2009 8:36:01 PM |
KaYaK Suspended 919 Posts user info edit post |
I was simply responding to someone who said that nobody knew who he was before that game. I stated that ESPN had been talking about him for some time. I don't see what all the fuss is over. 12/13/2009 8:45:37 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Fair enough KaYak... but
12/13/2009 8:55:04 PM |