I agree with that article, draft a qb in the 2nd round preferably or maybe sign someone but just make sure you have three credible options to find a working qb

and I guess I would franchise peppers again before allowing him free agency (if contract negotiations fail), but when did he say he wanted the top contract? I thought he just wanted to try a different defense

1/3/2010 3:27:34 AM

Quote :

"Cowher is right there for the taking I don't care how much Fox has done he will never amount to Cowher. He lives in NC and you know he would take this job over the Bucs."

A. I don't know Bill Cower and don't know what job he would or would not take over another. I'm fairly certain you also don't know either to be stating, like fact, that you do. Cowher has stated that he wants to coach where there is a passionate fan base. That does not describe the Panthers fans.

B. John Fox is a really good coach. If I were Jerry Richardson I would not let him go without a solid agreement with a proven Super Bowl winning coach to take his place.

[Edited on January 3, 2010 at 7:47 AM. Reason : df]

1/3/2010 7:47:13 AM

Adam Schefter reports that Bill Cowher is unlikely to coach in 2010

1/4/2010 5:03:32 PM

going to Deangelo and JStew's private pro bowl party tomorrow night in charlotte. i am super excited about it and stoked to have been invited.

i'll take a buncha pics and share with everyone on thursday!

1/5/2010 4:19:26 PM

You should probably invite me to come along.

1/5/2010 4:20:03 PM

I heard David Toms was gonna be there

1/5/2010 4:21:23 PM

^ hahah fuck david toms. i'll donkey kick him in his chinese balls

1/5/2010 4:25:39 PM

oh yeah...saw stewart tweet about that party...somethin like all the members on their website are invited if they sign up?

1/5/2010 4:44:30 PM

Hah, not so exclusive now, are we ?

1/5/2010 4:45:11 PM

yeah, he paid something like $25 to join their fan club

1/5/2010 4:54:55 PM

it was probably like $34.28 or something

i think i remember him saying he got some voicemail from one of them after he signed up

[Edited on January 5, 2010 at 4:57 PM. Reason : .]

1/5/2010 4:57:00 PM

$34.28 a year to be Double Trouble member. there's only 40 of us, so however you want to look at it, im playing laser tag with the best RB duo in the history of the NFL tomorrow night.

^yup

deangelo called and left me and my buddy a voicemail right after we signed up

[Edited on January 5, 2010 at 4:57 PM. Reason : .]

1/5/2010 4:57:17 PM

they're gonna rape you in laser tag...they'll shoot you and then just run you over

1/5/2010 4:57:50 PM

ah, I forgot about it being $34.28

1/5/2010 4:58:17 PM

^^well obviously i wont be able to see them...

i'll just ask em to smile real big.

[Edited on January 5, 2010 at 4:58 PM. Reason : .]

1/5/2010 4:58:21 PM

they'll probably have Ryan Kalil and Mackenzy Bernadeau in there to block other lasers from hitting them

1/5/2010 5:00:20 PM

or Otah hiding behind a trap door Legends of the Hidden temple style.

i would scream like a child and shrivel into a ball.

1/5/2010 5:06:50 PM

remember nick arcade lol



[Edited on January 5, 2010 at 5:09 PM. Reason : ]

1/5/2010 5:08:21 PM

nick arcade was the best, but for some reason it only came on at like 7 in the morning

1/5/2010 5:10:44 PM

no it came on at night, after double dare and before what would you do

1/5/2010 5:13:33 PM

i always wanted to be on Guts

1/5/2010 5:14:54 PM

I'm talking about after they canceled it

(we didn't get cable til 95, so around then)

[Edited on January 5, 2010 at 5:16 PM. Reason : my history]

1/5/2010 5:15:40 PM

It got cancelled because Marc Summers didn't host it

He hosted almost everything else they had back then

Now he's on the Food Network

1/5/2010 5:17:16 PM

that OCD son of a bitch

1/5/2010 5:17:43 PM

Quote :

"La Canfora also reported that Mangini will "very likely'' be fired by Holmgren and that Panthers current coach John Fox would be a leading candidate to replace him. Holmgren said he'll meet with Mangini on Wednesday and decide his fate by the end of the week"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/01/reports_mike_holmgren_will_int.html

Door cracking open again for Cowher? If Fox has an idea that he is going to be out in 2011, why not go ahead and start building with a new team

1/5/2010 5:20:22 PM

Nobody has any clue about 2011 until the owners and the players union revisit the CBA

1/5/2010 6:07:13 PM

i wouldnt mind getting 2 first round, 2 second round cleveland draft picks

1/5/2010 6:37:26 PM

There's no way they make a Grudenesque trade.

1/5/2010 7:17:09 PM

I think it would be pure lunacy to draft or sign another QB.

Matt Moore had a QB rating of nearly 100 this season for god's sake.

Yes, I realize he's not a top 10-15 QB in the league, but why waste $ on a third QB when we have a QB who can produce and an expensive backup who has had mild success in the league? Look we're not going to throw for 4,000 yards next season regardless of who the QB is. Let's spend that 2nd rounder on someone who can legitimately help at DT or LB.

We went 8-8 this year with one of the worst offenses I've ever seen. Our defense overachieved beyond belief given the talent they had. With an improved defense, stable o-line, a record setting RB duo, a consistent mistake free passing game we can be contenders again...

We are running out of time with the Peppers/Smith combo that has carried us the past 8 years, why not try to go for it again? Rebuilding is for losers.

1/5/2010 7:38:24 PM

Unless the coaches think Hunter Cantwell is the guy to compete with Jake and Moore for the starting job, we will draft or sign another QB

1/5/2010 7:39:20 PM

I don't mean that literally. I mean why waste valuable resources on a 3rd QB who may or may not be better than Matt Moore.

Let the fucking guy start. He earned a chance to prove he can NOT LOSE games for us which is all we will need to get our ground game/defense going.

This is the most overachieving defense Carolina has ever had. On paper we should be below average, but they had a great season. Why not let them try to duplicate their results while we pound people on the ground and address the QB situation with an efficient QB who doesn't piss games away every week?

1/5/2010 10:01:52 PM

I'm just worried that Delhomme will somehow win the starting job back despite being outplayed 100 fold by Moore.

Delhomme must look like a god in practice or something.

1/6/2010 9:46:55 AM

Quote :

"I'm just worried that Delhomme will somehow win the starting job back despite being outplayed 100 fold by Moore."

I have vowed to renounce my panther fanhood if Delhomme starts next year.

1/6/2010 9:49:04 AM

i won't be a panther fan anymore if he plays again

1/6/2010 10:03:19 AM

just looking at the numbers, Matt Moore has easily been a top-10 QB the last 4 or so weeks. 800+ yards, 8 TD, 0 INT.. sure he won't be that good for an entire season, but we don't need him to be either. I don't think there's any way he hasn't (shouldn't have) earned the job next year. Sure, if there's a 1st round QB sitting there for us in the mid 2nd rd, we should take him just for security and the future, but Matt Moore looks perfectly capable of not losing games for us.

1/6/2010 10:12:04 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/05/browns-could-be-targeting-john-fox/

Another article expanding on what steviewonder posted. Apparently Holmgren, Fox, and the Eagles GM all have the same agent...

Is PFT a credible source?

1/6/2010 2:14:01 PM

one of, if not the, most credible sources when it comes to the NFL

1/6/2010 2:19:50 PM

Quote :

"Matt Moore looks perfectly capable of not losing games for us."

Exactly. He doesn't force anything and takes what the defense gives him. He'll take his shots, but seems to know when to do so. I'm fine with drafting a QB, but not with our first pick (unless somebody like McCoy falls to us).

If they shore up the DT positions, get a little more depth on the OL, and get a legit playmaker at WR to play opposite Smith, the Panthers could be pretty dangerous.

1/6/2010 2:47:09 PM

Quote :

"We went 8-8 this year with one of the worst offenses I've ever seen. Our defense overachieved beyond belief given the talent they had."

really? thomas davis, peppers, and jon beason seem really talented, not to mention our secondary once we got that cancer lucas out of here

1/7/2010 11:56:30 PM

Fox isn't a bad coach and it would be hard to find someone better to replace him with. Sure, we all think Cowher is badass and I would be excited for him to coach the Panthers, but as my husband pointed out to me, it took Cowher quite a while to win a superbowl as well. That's about the only thing he has over Fox really.

I do like we haven't given him a contract extension yet. Hopefully he'll get the hint some changes need to be made. I'm still pissed about the money I blew going to the play-off game last year.

1/8/2010 4:21:18 PM

George Seifert won a Superbowl with the 49ers and crapped all over the Panthers in the 3 years he coached (his farewell tour ended with a 1-15 season). Point is ... just b/c a coach has won a Superbowl doesn't make winning seasons a guarantee. I've got no beef if Fox stays and gets an extension IF he gets back to the playoffs next year and improves from 2009.

1/8/2010 11:25:32 PM

if we go to the playoffs next season under Fox, then 2011 will be <.500

1/9/2010 2:23:41 AM

^^^ u right. There were a few points in there where Steeler fan was calling for Cowher's head.

The Panthers are playing this just right IMO. Fox needs to have some pressure put on him. He's been stubborn to change to a fault, and it has cost the Panthers this year and in the past. If after this year he is still unable to adapt, then he should be gone. The Panthers are being fair letting him play the last year of his contract to keep the job.

[Edited on January 9, 2010 at 11:13 AM. Reason : .]

1/9/2010 11:12:52 AM

Fox given the option to opt out of his final year!

1/10/2010 11:27:01 AM

Countdown just reported that Fox was given the right to void the final year of his contract if he chooses to do so.

This is the first I've heard of this, but I guess we'll find out whether he really wants to be here since he is basically a "free agent coach under contract" right now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4813290

[Edited on January 10, 2010 at 11:34 AM. Reason : link]

1/10/2010 11:28:18 AM

wtf, Im not sure I like a lame duck coaching staff in there next year. Also can't help wondering who the Panthers have in mind (and are obviously hot about) in case Fox exercises the opt out

1/18/2010 9:21:01 PM

fox will coach out 2010 and unless he takes us to the playoffs (which obviously he must), he will be cut. Bill Cowher will be the next head coach.

1/19/2010 8:46:26 AM

Quote :

"Bill Cowher will be the next head coach."

orly ok

1/19/2010 7:07:23 PM