Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "OP: BLACK PERSON SAY A THING Generic soapbox peckerwoods: lol niggers" |
the only peckerwoods dwelling on racist items are people like you2/3/2010 4:18:46 PM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
when will black americans teach about SB Fuller? 2/3/2010 4:23:04 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah race and poverty are uncorrelated worldwide, and racist exploitation is not a reasonable mechanistic explanation for it" |
I'll say the same thing to you as I usually say to God when he goes on this racist rant. What's your solution for eliminating "institutional racism"? Are we going to make laws that only benefit those with a certain skin color? Will we use the one drop rule? How about Native Americans? How about black people that were raised by white people? How about white people that were raised by black people?
As long as there people like you, railing against everyone that isn't a minority and demanding that the government step in and force equality across the board, we will still have racism. You just can't stand the thought of a world where people view skin color as just another physical attribute. You're pitting one race against another under the guise of "tolerance" or "equality."
[Edited on February 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM. Reason : ]2/3/2010 4:39:41 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^agreed...well said. 2/3/2010 4:52:48 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Lessons of this thread:
(1) Solutions don't require understanding causes (2) Race is completely arbitrary from a rational point of view, so why view it as a thing in the world (3) Liberals are the real racists because they want to address racism (4) Addressing racism creates racism 2/3/2010 4:58:48 PM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
5. Black guy disparages black people, wins love from white people. 2/3/2010 5:00:16 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Freeman shucks and jives on film to the joy of white people everywhere, gets cut a check from white movie execs
Racism is over everybody 2/3/2010 5:01:53 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Where's the love? Not once has anyone mentioned the oppression of yellow and brown people...
... that leads me to one conclusion: Racism exists because of white and black people. Y'all need to get over it. 2/3/2010 5:05:32 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Lessons of this thread:
(1) Solutions don't require understanding causes (2) Race is completely arbitrary from a rational point of view, so why view it as a thing in the world (3) Liberals are the real racists because they want to address racism (4) Addressing racism creates racism" |
Except you are misinformed on all these points.
(1) You are dwelling on the cause. This doesn't mean we don't understand the cause but we aren't going to sit around and sulk about it for another 200 years.
(2) Race should not be used to elevate one person over another. I mean if you really want to be picky and there are two people that look completely identical and are dressed the same but one is black and one is white...I'm sure its ok to say 'the black/dark/guy on the left' to describe him (3) All liberals want to do is talk about race and make it an issue by using race as a way to qualify a person (job, aid, education, etc). Further fueling the fire. (4) Addressing racism by creating special cases based on race IS racism, yes.
Quote : | "Freeman shucks and jives on film to the joy of white people everywhere, gets cut a check from white movie execs
Racism is over everybody" |
. <- the point
0 -< your head /|\ /\
[Edited on February 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM. Reason : .]2/3/2010 5:05:47 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "(1) You are dwelling on the cause. This doesn't mean we don't understand the cause but we aren't going to sit around and sulk about it for another 200 years." |
This isn't what I'm suggesting. Get your head out of your ass.
Quote : | "(2) Race should not be used to elevate one person over another. I mean if you really want to be picky and there are two people that look completely identical and are dressed the same but one is black and one is white...I'm sure its ok to say 'the black/dark/guy on the left' to describe him " |
People do respond to race, cluster according to it, discriminate according to it, oppress according to it, etc.
Quote : | "(3) All liberals want to do is talk about race and make it an issue by using race as a way to qualify a person (job, aid, education, etc). Further fueling the fire." |
Is that what I want to do? What evidence do you have for me holding this position?
Quote : | "(4) Addressing racism by creating special cases based on race IS racism, yes." |
No.
Quote : | ". <- the point
0 -< your head /|\ /\" |
Mark you are Egypt's equivalent of a guido. Shut the fuck up and sit down you stupid son of a bitch. It's enough that I get to listen to Engin laughing about how moronic you are all the time. I don't want to actually witness it myself.2/3/2010 5:11:40 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
STRAIGHT OUT RACIST THE SUCKA WAS SIMPLE AND PLAIN
MUTHA FUCK HIM AND JOHN WAYNE 2/3/2010 5:13:09 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Mark you are so cognitively deficient it's fucking FOUL to witness. Tell your girlfriend instead or blog about it. 2/3/2010 5:15:28 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
And I've made my point. Continue doing what you do best when you have nothing of value to say. 'Ciao!' 2/3/2010 5:19:10 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
You don't have anything resembling a point.
BLACK PERSON SAY A THING 2/3/2010 5:26:42 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "(1) Solutions don't require understanding causes (2) Race is completely arbitrary from a rational point of view, so why view it as a thing in the world (3) Liberals are the real racists because they want to address racism (4) Addressing racism creates racism" |
You're not addressing racism. You're addressing institutional racism. They are not the same concept. Just answer the question. What is your solution for dealing with institutional racism? My solution is that we, as people, should publicly denounce racism and call out the people that are motivated by racism.
With modern liberals, it's never just "racism is bad." It's "racism is bad - let's make more laws or let's throw an entitlement program at it" Then we get shit like hate crime laws that make murdering a minority carry a harsher penalty than murdering a white person, and instead of equality under the law, we get inequality under the law. I don't know that you support that kind of thing, but it sure seems like you're going down that road.2/3/2010 5:28:32 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Destroyer we should PM or IM or some shit because it sounds like you actually want to talk rather than stroke your cock over the fact that a black man helped justify your racist thoughts
No real conversation going on in this thread whatsoever 2/3/2010 5:31:02 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You don't have anything resembling a point.
BLACK PERSON SAY A THING" |
You missed it, sorry.2/3/2010 5:31:16 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Freeman shucks and jives on film to the joy of white people everywhere, gets cut a check from white movie execs" |
i haven't been paying strict attention to the nonsense in this thread, but that's about the most racist thing i've heard yet.
so you accuse Freeman of being an Uncle Tom because he's successful?2/3/2010 5:32:08 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah Mark nobody's capable of understanding your niche position and your stunningly careful reasoning
Quote : | "so you accuse Freeman of being an Uncle Tom because he's successful?" |
Freeman appears in movies to play the old wise black guy that gives white people advice
[Edited on February 3, 2010 at 5:33 PM. Reason : .]2/3/2010 5:33:16 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Destroyer we should PM or IM or some shit because it sounds like you actually want to talk rather than stroke your cock over the fact that a black man helped justify your racist thoughts
No real conversation going on in this thread whatsoever" |
If that gets your racist thoughts out of this thread, by all means.
Quote : | "Freeman appears in movies to play the old wise black guy that gives white people advice" |
Another example of your backwards thinking. Maybe Freeman plays an old wise PERSON who gives other people advice. If you can't see past his skin color how are you not racist?
[Edited on February 3, 2010 at 5:35 PM. Reason : asfd]2/3/2010 5:33:20 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Pointing out racism = racism
lol. You fucking people are unbelievable. You're willing to go through literally any fucked up convolution to justify your shitty fucking lifestyles and opinions
Quote : | "Maybe Freeman plays an old wise PERSON who gives other people advice. If you can't see past his skin color how are you not racist?" |
Maybe movie execs fell and hit their fucking heads and forgot how to market to white people
[Edited on February 3, 2010 at 5:36 PM. Reason : .]2/3/2010 5:35:51 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Freeman appears in movies to play the old wise black guy that gives white people advice" |
umm... okay.
you've got some kind of hangup, i think.
is it like white guilt or something?2/3/2010 5:36:07 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "is it like white guilt or something?" |
not guilty, just aware2/3/2010 5:36:42 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pointing out racism = racism
lol. You fucking people are unbelievable. You're willing to go through literally any fucked up convolution to justify your shitty fucking lifestyles and opinions" |
You aren't pointing out racism. You are creating it by labeling him as a black man playing a roll above white people. I'm guessing you also think that his talent as an actor has nothing to do with landing any of his rolls.
I'm sorry we all aren't 'philosophers' with your lifestyle. Next time you pack a bowl, give me a call and maybe I can come join you in this fascinating lifestyle.
Quote : | "Maybe movie execs fell and hit their fucking heads and forgot how to market to white people" |
Before you can change the world you need to change yourself. When you can learn to see past his skin color and stop labeling him as a black man in a white mans world then maybe there will be hope for others around you.
[Edited on February 3, 2010 at 5:40 PM. Reason : asdf]2/3/2010 5:39:01 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Next time you pack a bowl, give me a call and maybe I can come join you in this fascinating lifestyle." |
Not in the habit of sharing my shit with little guido wannabes2/3/2010 5:40:11 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
Even if I were to agree with every word that McDanger utters, his constant proclamations of truth would be wearisome. 2/3/2010 5:40:50 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not in the habit of sharing my shit with little guido wannabes" |
Just so your witty insults can have some glimpse of a sting...what exactly is a guido, or better yet Egyptian equivalent of a guido?2/3/2010 5:41:45 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Freeman shucks and jives on film to the joy of white people everywhere" | wow. Clearly this black man needs to be put in his place and told how to feel about race by little white middle class guys like you. I mean, seriously, how dare a black man have his own opinion on how he wants to be treated by a white another man right?]2/3/2010 5:44:04 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^Morgan Freeman is not a philosopher so what would he know anyway? 2/3/2010 5:44:55 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "is it like white guilt or something?" |
Quote : | "not guilty, just aware" |
um, i'm pretty aware of the impact of the atlantic african slave trade, both on the africans and the country that we live in, as well as the false myths that are portrayed in revisionist (aka mainstream) high school history books across the country.
but i dont accuse black folks of being sell-out uncle tom boot lickers everytime one succeeds in "whitey's world"
[Edited on February 3, 2010 at 5:55 PM. Reason : ]2/3/2010 5:55:37 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
This is new... McDanger tries to act like he is better than everybody else... and then he is first one to start cursing users, their countries, and their mothers in here. Oh wait, he does that in every serious/political thread on TWW.
Quote : | "Your quips are witty and clever but don't really address anything." |
Funny thing is, he says racist stuff all the time in chit chat. His defense, will of course be that he is trolling when he does that... but someone who is so smug and pompous about how he is so much more enlightened than all of us shouldn't say racist things even if in jest.
And finally, here is a gem from him, which of course he doesn't follow, as expected from a hypocrite:
Quote : | "McDanger: it must suck to be so pissed and bitter all the time, you all should learn to relax" |
STFU. No one cares about what you think, Mr. I-am-a-Philosophy-Major.2/3/2010 5:57:56 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
I don't put much stock in what Morgan Freeman says because being rich as shit and uber-famous isolates you from a lot of the racism in this country. The guy is one of the most recognizable faces in the country, he's unlikely to deal with a lot of the shit the average black guy or Latino deals with. And "not talking about" problem has never been a solution to making it go away.
Quote : | "Then we get shit like hate crime laws that make murdering a minority carry a harsher penalty than murdering a white person, and instead of equality under the law, we get inequality under the law." |
Hate crimes don't do that. Hate crimes give a harsher penalty when the crime is proven to be motivated by race (and other categories). And yes it has resulted in harsher penalties for crimes with a black perpetrator and white victim.2/3/2010 7:18:43 PM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
Blocking out of socialist policy by racist conservatives (not all republicans are racist but all racists are conservatives) is preventing the government from ending institutionalized racism while still holding everyone on an equal level.
Let the government insure EVERYONE can have healthcare, education, food and the basic needs to grow up a normal life (welfare) regardless of color and racism would be offset by that. Right now, we're not quite there socially so affirmative action is very necessary.
[Edited on February 3, 2010 at 7:55 PM. Reason : progressive taxes don't see race but redistribute wealth to all whom have been opressed] 2/3/2010 7:50:27 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Guys Morgan Freeman is not black.
He is rich
Thus sides with whitey
you fucking racists
Shouldn't McFagger be in shit shat crying about being dumped?
[Edited on February 3, 2010 at 7:51 PM. Reason : or do i have him confused with a different whinny cunt?] 2/3/2010 7:51:01 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Let the government insure EVERYONE can have healthcare, education, food and the basic needs to grow up a normal life (welfare) regardless of color and racism would be offset by that." | ahahahaha, because there are no oppressed ethnic minorities in Communist China.2/3/2010 10:57:20 PM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
nobody said anything about communism
china=communist western/nw europe=socialist
china has a lot of the same kind of "geographic descrimination we have" people in the cities get all the good stuff and live like americans. People in the farms and rural areas are living 3rd world conditions. 2/3/2010 11:14:39 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't put much stock in what Morgan Freeman says because being rich as shit and uber-famous isolates you from a lot of the racism in this country. The guy is one of the most recognizable faces in the country, he's unlikely to deal with a lot of the shit the average black guy or Latino deals with. And "not talking about" problem has never been a solution to making it go away." |
Just because the man is successful does not mean he's isolated from racism. He also didn't grow up famous or successful. Whether he's over come racial issues in his life NOW does not mean he hasn't encountered them in the past.
Also, no one is saying 'lets not talk about it' as a solution.2/4/2010 12:33:39 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Shouldn't McFagger be in shit shat crying about being dumped?" |
different dude2/4/2010 1:34:05 AM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Not to take sides, but did someone really make a thread to agree with and discuss points included among which is that we shouldn't be discussing race so much? 2/4/2010 1:53:38 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^not to take sides either but read the thread if you are so curious. 2/4/2010 2:01:05 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "western/nw europe=socialist" | ahahahaha, because there are no oppressed ethnic minorities in Europe.2/4/2010 6:21:09 AM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
"Rawr Rawr Rawr, he's rich so he doesn't know racism"
Morgan Freeman was raised in Mississippi, the son of a barber. His film debut was a movie about the civil rights movement called "The Nigger Lovers". Immediately after that he was in an all-black version of Hello, Dolly!. He was living in NYC during the Harlem and Newark race riots, working as a secretary.
Guy probably knows more about racism than anyone under the age of 30. 2/4/2010 9:13:26 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ Nah man, Dr. McDanger Philosopher knows more! 2/4/2010 9:17:11 AM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hate crimes give a harsher penalty when the crime is proven to be motivated by race (and other categories)." |
Getting off topic here, but why should the motivation change the penalty for a crime? I don't think that it should matter, as far as sentencing goes.2/4/2010 9:26:51 AM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
^^Whatever racism he saw growing up, it's not a stretch to say that he's a good 30-40 years removed from the worst of it. And regardless, his statement is utterly ridiculous. 2/4/2010 9:30:48 AM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
it's his STEP granddaughter
it's not his fault that his child decided to marry someone who had a hot daughter
haha...j/k....not as sick as I originally thought but definitely a no-no
[Edited on February 4, 2010 at 9:56 AM. Reason : yo] 2/4/2010 9:54:54 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
^^Why does it matter? He lived through it, and you didn't. I like how every time a black person comes out on the real side of equality, the liberals come out in droves to crucify them. "He's not a real black person! Real black people are poor! Real black people can't be successful on their own, they need the government (with the help of Democrats) to survive!"
It's glaringly obvious to me that this is not about "addressing racism." This is about maintaining an important constituency. We all agree that there have been some severe injustices in our nation's past. It's okay to acknowledge that, and it's okay to admit that there may be some residual effects still present. It's not okay to turn one race against another for political reasons. 2/4/2010 9:56:42 AM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
Lets not split this thread into political parties. Liberals and conservatives are both guilty. The Southern Strategy is still being used; still working. 2/4/2010 10:02:48 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Whatever racism he saw growing up, it's not a stretch to say that he's a good 30-40 years removed from the worst of it." | So Elie Wiesel should just shut up about the holocaust since it ended over 65 years ago?2/4/2010 10:20:12 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I like how every time a black person comes out on the real side of equality, the liberals come out in droves to crucify them. "He's not a real black person! Real black people are poor! Real black people can't be successful on their own, they need the government (with the help of Democrats) to survive!"" |
Do you honestly think people are saying/thinking this? Just stopping for a moment to check.
[Edited on February 4, 2010 at 10:24 AM. Reason : .]2/4/2010 10:22:37 AM |