^Get oot!

2/18/2010 7:51:04 PM

There are way too many counters to a photon cannon creep for each race that it wouldn't get you very far.

2/18/2010 8:19:24 PM

It's too bad the Dark Archon is gone and with it the ability to control all three races at once.

2/18/2010 8:20:14 PM

i just meant because there seem to be players who are worse than me playing

2/18/2010 8:54:35 PM

It looks like the exact game. I mean the exact same. New units blah. God damn is it the exact same thing.

The single player will have new things to portray the storyline. But arnt new games supposed to have something different in the basic game-play....

Maybe I am crazy. Maybe I expect too much. whatever

i will buy regardless

2/18/2010 9:26:35 PM

I don't see why that's a problem...

What I don't like is the limited camera range and inability to rotate the angle. I assumed I'd be able to zoom out a lot farther than in the first game, but that is not the case.

2/18/2010 9:36:46 PM

almost lost a PvP cause of those dang warp thingers. Luckily i had expanded so i came back with mothership+carriers and cleaned the map. I didn't realize until about part way through that the mothership has a passive ability that cloaks all nearby friendly structures and units.

2/18/2010 10:39:57 PM

Quote :

"warp thingers"

Warp Prisms?

2/19/2010 6:18:36 PM

I've never used VoIP for a game before, so this might be a dumb question, but:

For those of you lucky enough to get into beta: Does SC2 have it's own chat system? Like, can I plug in a mic and talk to the people playing? Cuz I saw some beta livestreams but they were using Ventrilo channels. However, I saw some button on the Bnet interface for "mute chat" or something. What does that mean exactly?

2/20/2010 10:02:58 AM

^^ yea. I tried it as a protoss and unless im missing something you can only send ground units via the gateway, right? Do the protoss have any transport units (shuttle?)? My last practice round i ended up doing a photon creep on a guy cause im lame like that and he was terrible, and i got one of my probes trapped and couldnt get it out.

^yea theres something internal for chat but i haven't used it cause i dont have a mic.

2/20/2010 10:34:30 AM

^^There is an in game voice chat system but the voice codec is one of the worst I've ever heard. It's atrocious.

^The Warp Prism is a shuttle. But it's real use is as a temporary pylon field. Transform your Gateways into Warp Gates and you can use the Warp Prism's field to warp in units straight from the Warp Gate in their base. The Warp Gate cooldown is fairly long though so you have to several of them for that to work. When I go that route I usually build 8-10 Warp Gates and warp in mass Stalkers (in addition to the ones I already have built that blink up the terrain into their base).

What's your ID on there? I'll add you and maybe we can do some 1v1 for practice.

2/21/2010 12:32:12 AM

Shaggar.ffffffffffff

I didn't actually try picking up a unit with the prisim, heh.

2/21/2010 12:36:54 AM

the beta client is out on various torrent sites, but theres only a crack to watch replays. they say a crack to play AIs is in the works... we shall see

2/21/2010 8:45:29 PM

^sweet!

2/21/2010 8:46:38 PM

The only AI difficulty is Very Easy, so you won't really learn much playing against the AI right now.

2/21/2010 8:54:21 PM

Who cares, I don't learn much playing against Koreans either, other than how quickly I'm back in the lobby looking for a new match up.

2/21/2010 9:45:55 PM

Watching the replays against Koreans would teach you a lot actually. Replays are automatically saved now and I've learned more watching those after being beaten than by I have by winning against some noob or very easy computer.

2/22/2010 2:54:27 AM

Yes, but I want to play the game...not spend all my time watching replays and not playing.

I'll take an easy AI over only being able to watch replays.

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 11:14 AM. Reason : .]

2/22/2010 11:14:17 AM

Second wave of beta keys going out tonight (supposedly). Maybe I'll get lucky!

2/22/2010 10:31:52 PM

FINGERS CROSSED!!!!

2/22/2010 10:55:30 PM

got that right!

2/22/2010 11:05:44 PM

Maybe I'll get a third one...

2/22/2010 11:23:07 PM

^I got dibs on your third one damnit!

2/22/2010 11:30:30 PM

3!

2/23/2010 8:37:57 AM

I got a key........................................NOT

2/23/2010 10:29:16 AM

Buddy of mine got one last night, still not one for me, dammit.

2/23/2010 12:53:00 PM

I'd be selling mine on ebay in a second.

2/23/2010 1:08:55 PM

Man I am so terrible at this game it's not even funny.

2/23/2010 6:31:51 PM

beta patched tonight!

2/25/2010 11:28:44 PM

Quote :

"BALANCE CHANGES TERRAN Viking The armor value for this unit in Fighter Mode has decreased from 1 to 0. The damage done by this unit in Fighter Mode has changed from 6 (+8 armored) to 10 (+4 armored). Reaper The damage done from D-8 Charges has decreased from 40 to 30. The delay between attacks for D-8 Charges has decreased from 2.5 to 1.8. Orbital Command The build time for this upgrade has decreased from 50 to 35. PROTOSS Observer Gravitic Boosters: The cost of this research has decreased from 150 minerals and 150 vespene gas to 100 minerals and 100 vespene gas. High Templar Phase Shift: This ability has been removed from the game. New ability: Feedback - Drains all energy from the target unit and causes damage equal to the amount of energy drained. Colossus The building pathing radius for this unit has decreased from .75 to .5625. Mothership Vortex: The energy cost of this ability has increased from 75 to 100. Vortex: The target radius of this ability has decreased from 3.0 to 2.5. Temporal Rift: This ability has been removed from the game. Wormhole Transit: This ability has been removed from the game. New ability: Mass Recall - Teleports all of the player's units in the target area to the Mothership. Nexus Chrono Boost can no longer target allies. Gateway The build time of this building has increased from 50 to 65. ZERG Infestor Fungal Growth: The damage done by this ability has decreased from 48 to 36. Fungal Growth: This ability now prevents affected units from burrowing. Neural Parasite: Functionality changed - The Infestor now channels this spell, which lasts 10 seconds or until the Infestor is destroyed. You can now target all units with this ability. Terran Infestation: The ability’s energy cost has reduced from 50 to 25 and Infested Terrans now spawn 1 at a time. BUG FIXES Addressed an issue causing people to receive an “Internal Battle.net Error” message with their game client. Muting your microphone will no longer cause your microphone to be turned off in the operating system once the program has exited. Please note that the voice chat functionality has only partially been implemented. There are many known issues with voice chat that we expect to address in a future patch. The “Medium” graphical settings were reconfigured to work better on appropriate machines. The video settings “auto-detect” functionality has been reset as a result. Added a frame rate limiter to the game menus to prevent some graphics cards from running at higher frame rates than necessary. "

2/25/2010 11:34:33 PM

Also, on Blizzcast 13 yesterday, Dustin confirmed they were aiming for a 3 to 5 month beta, and that right now it was looking like a 3 month beta! SWEET!

2/26/2010 6:23:22 AM

Its fucking infuriating that Blizzard doesn't recognize how important I am to their beta process.

2/26/2010 8:54:13 AM

I, too, would like to test, but have no key. I think it would be better for there to be more people in beta who've actually played SC, not just any blizzard game, although I understand the need for testing for all skill levels and server loads.

2/26/2010 10:50:12 AM

Anyone here have a beta key they might like to sell?

2/28/2010 4:25:53 PM

If you guys just want to play against the ai, search the torrents. There are cracks out there that let you play against scripted ai on 15+ maps.

It will at least get you familiar with the new units.

3/1/2010 10:17:28 AM

^ that exact post is higher on the very page you posted that

3/1/2010 11:19:35 AM

Thanks for the tip. I would actually like to play 2v2 with actual people which is why I was asking if anyone had an extra key they might want to sell me. ( I know ebay has some at $200-$300)

3/1/2010 11:16:15 PM

you guys need to stick to your roots. starcraft brood war!

it's amazing the talent stoners have on bnet. every single name is a weed reference and yet they seem to have no problem : multitasking, directing, and planning a thorough ass whipping time and time again . I think the worst was when sticky_green87, itokebongs, and marshal420 beat me in 5 minutes.


I play on US EAST (duh) as "amberlamp". I am horrible. If any of you want to get a free win, just create a marijuana related name and bring the pain. Azaka, you realize how funny this shit is given my high school starcraft handle, hahahahah.

3/3/2010 8:54:42 PM

I'm still amazed at how open of a Beta this has been and how transparent the development process is. I am looking forward to the single player, especially since last year I went back and played through the original and brood war.

[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 10:30 PM. Reason : I'll just wait for the final version and hardly ever play on battle.net]

3/3/2010 10:29:10 PM

It's a cryin' shame they took LAN out

3/3/2010 11:35:13 PM

Forgive my ignorance but do you get any experience/upgrades for killing enemy units? I'm used to warcraft III FT where heroes gain experience and level up after killing a unit.

Seems like there would not be as much of an emphasis on preventing your unit's death if no experience is awarded to your opponent for killing it.

3/4/2010 11:59:15 AM

No, it doesnt work like WCIII. A unit is the same until it dies or an upgrade you pay for takes effect.

The emphasis is on having units to prevent you from losing the match

3/4/2010 12:07:13 PM

just got a beta invite for this!

i suck at starcraft and RTSes, I just signed up for the beta a really long time ago....

3/6/2010 2:37:51 PM

ahahaha never played SC but just got an invite!!

3/6/2010 5:35:03 PM

Hell YES! 1:04pm my beta invite arrived!

3/6/2010 5:53:17 PM

you assholes

3/6/2010 9:38:35 PM

When you play zerg, what do you do with overlords? I've just been letting mine chill off to the side of the base, seems like they move to slow to do anything useful.

3/7/2010 1:13:40 AM

if its anything like the old one, they can spot stealth units.

3/7/2010 2:19:40 AM

^^early scout. can be evolved into useful units.

3/7/2010 2:25:21 AM

Do you have to own another blizzard game before you can sign up in the beta for this?

I haven't had anything in a while since SC1, and like an idiot I only kept the CD and threw away the case, losing the CD keys.

I thought I remember seeing a link on here one time where you could basically purchase valid battle.net CD keys for Diablo 2 and download the game...not sure if I remembered that correctly or not

3/7/2010 9:31:48 AM