TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I thought part of the rationale was that the current OT rules for regular season inherently make the game end quicker than the new playoff rules, since a field goal would end the game. I thought the league wanted to minimize the length of regular season OT games for TV scheduling purposes, but in the playoffs its different. 3/23/2010 4:03:12 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah god forbid American Dad gets delayed for 10 minutes for a thrilling overtime finish 3/23/2010 4:04:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I think their reasoning is more like, god forbid we miss the kickoff of the 4:15 game because Donovan McNabb is a retard in the 1 o'clock game 3/23/2010 4:07:30 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Then they should just declare the winner of the game to be the winner of the coin toss. They could have more time for commercials! 3/23/2010 4:20:23 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
do the opposite of college. get rid of offense/defense and just alternate kickoffs until a TD is scored.
-Kickoff from the 25 -Kickoff must travel 50 yards -Kickoff out of bounds is 5-yard penalty + rekick -If the team that gets the ball first scores on their return, the other team gets a chance. -After 2 kickoffs per team, if neither team has scored, remove a player from each team to make it 10 on 10. If necessary, remove another player after each pair of kickoffs, until only the Kicker and Kick Returner are left.
Just kidding. 3/23/2010 5:00:28 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Safety also ends the game instantly
Would be a lot easier to just go with my "First to 5" proposal 3/23/2010 5:01:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
why in the fuck would you pick '5' instead of 6 3/23/2010 5:04:07 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Read the first page of this thread 3/23/2010 5:06:11 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
you're retarded
hey, lets reward teams for intentionally taking safeties!
lets re-write the rules to give advantages to teams who cant move the ball!] 3/23/2010 5:08:00 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Only the exact opposite of that
Hi, my name is James and I can't read 3/23/2010 5:09:12 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you're retarded
hey, lets reward teams for intentionally taking safeties!" |
???
first to 5 or more of course, not first to exactly 53/23/2010 5:10:38 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
the only reason people wanted the OT rule changed in the first place is because the team that wins the coin toss wins the game 60% of the time
60/40 is a big enough reason to change the OT, according to the NFL owners
your proposed solution involves something that probably happens in 1% of games 3/23/2010 5:10:56 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Doesn't matter if it happens .01% of the times, it will still happen
Why not nip it in the bud before it does 3/23/2010 5:13:00 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
too late for that
btw, the system they implemented isn't a strict "first to X" system
its 1st to 7, IF you win the coin toss and score a touchdown
its 1st to 3, IF you win the coin toss, kick a FG, then stop the other team on 4th down
its then sudden death, IF you win the toss, kick a FG and give up a FG 3/23/2010 5:15:38 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Because it won't effect any games where a safety doesn't occur. A touchdown or two field goals will both give a team a win. There is no combination of scores that doesn't involve a safety that can result in 5 points. Thus, making it 5 instead of 6 changes absolutely nothing about the game except for the fact that a safety and a field goal can win the game for you, instead of getting a field goal and safety and then still having to score a field goal or a touchdown to win. All non-safety outcomes remain the same. 3/23/2010 5:16:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
also, a safety in overtime now (playoffs) will immediately end the game
http://twitter.com/LATimesfarmer/status/10941237260] 3/23/2010 5:39:32 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I said that not ten posts up
Hi, my name is James and I can't read 3/23/2010 5:43:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
actually it was exactly 10 posts up ya big dummy 3/23/2010 5:45:43 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think their reasoning is more like, god forbid we miss the kickoff of the 4:15 game because Donovan McNabb is a retard in the 1 o'clock game" |
We'd hate to miss that fag tom brady throw interceptions or piss off the bandwagon steelers fans b.c the panthers game goes into overtime (assuming the pats or steelers are hosting an NFC team).3/23/2010 5:46:46 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
SF and Tree
3/23/2010 6:03:47 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
lol at the comments to this article
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/23/safety-wins-in-new-overtime/
Quote : | "Bad news for Packer fans.
A. Rodgers has a propensity for taking safeties.
Just ask Jared Allen." |
Quote : | "What if you intercept a pass in the endzone, then come out on a return, then run back in to the endzone and get tackled for a safety?" |
Quote : | "what if one team scores a field goal first... then the second team scores a saftey.... somehow
would the winning team have the lower score?" |
Quote : | "So 2 points win a game, however 3 does not? Who does the math on that one, an SEC graduate?" |
Quote : | "ok, this is completely wild-eyed, but what if....
Colts-Chargers OT scenerio in a tied 20-20 game
Colts begin overtime with kick off to Chargers. Charges drive for FG. Chargers 23- Colts 20 Colts recieve kickoff drive to 10 yardline, 1st and goal. Colts throw interception on 2 yardline. FUMBLE! Ball inadvertently kicked in endzone. Chargers recover... Safety.
Under the current rule as Farmar describes where a saftey wins the game do the colts win Colts win 22-23?
Ummmmm... am i missing something?????" |
[Edited on March 23, 2010 at 6:17 PM. Reason : link]3/23/2010 6:17:10 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
^ They should make it so the game is over when the ensuing possession ends if a FG is scored on the first drive. Regardless, the game should end on a safety, but the team with the higher score would still win the game. 3/23/2010 10:50:14 PM |
Apocalypse All American 17555 Posts user info edit post |
The college setup would have been so much fucking easier. 3/23/2010 11:09:48 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Just passed a rule making it like college where the play is over when the ball carrier's helmet gets knocked off
No more plays like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMAaZYD3meE 3/24/2010 3:45:27 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
To be fair, the guy running him down really obviously hesitated before going to tackle a guy with no helmet on. There was an extra 5-10 yards on that just because he didn't want to kill Witten. 3/24/2010 3:56:35 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
Aparently also, if the team that kicks off first recovers an onside kick, it starts sudden death.
If I were a coach I would... Win the coin toss and choose to kick. Try onside kick. If succesful, YAY we will win! If not succesful, Oh well, no harm done and I'll have 4 downs instead of 3 on offense if we hold them to a FG.
[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 5:01 PM. Reason : ] 3/24/2010 5:00:50 PM |
nasty_b All American 1183 Posts user info edit post |
What if they kept sudden death overtime just the way it is, but the team that had the lead in regulation before the game was tied gets the ball first in overtime. that would make teams go for the win (via td over fg or going for 2) at the end of regulation. it would also keep games shorter (i.e. less injuries etc..) which is most peoples complaints against just playing an extra quarter. 3/24/2010 5:16:52 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
goddamn, what's so fucking hard about keeping it the same during the regular season
and in the playoffs, just add another quarter. i can see potential added time that has to be played being a detriment during reg season from a players health perspective, but in the playoffs that would be fucking epic. 3/24/2010 5:22:37 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If I were a coach I would... Win the coin toss and choose to kick. Try onside kick. If succesful, YAY we will win! If not succesful, Oh well, no harm done and I'll have 4 downs instead of 3 on offense if we hold them to a FG." |
If you kick and recover the onside kick, the other team never had possession.3/24/2010 5:33:02 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah but apparently they had a "chance" to have possession, so you could still win by doing this
Read it on PFT, not sure of its validity 3/24/2010 5:33:52 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I was only discrediting it because it was posted by a woman. 3/24/2010 5:35:31 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Just passed a rule making it like college where the play is over when the ball carrier's helmet gets knocked off" |
So players are going to attempt to knock a players helmet off to end the play.
Quote : | "What if they kept sudden death overtime just the way it is, but the team that had the lead in regulation before the game was tied gets the ball first in overtime. that would make teams go for the win (via td over fg or going for 2) at the end of regulation. it would also keep games shorter (i.e. less injuries etc..) which is most peoples complaints against just playing an extra quarter." |
I never thought of that, but think I do not mind sudden death as much of this were the case.3/24/2010 5:44:49 PM |