^Apparently FOX was happy that the series being shifted to Friday moved the Friday numbers up 38% since last year.

Rumor is that Bones may move to Friday with it, since they are doing a Bones spin-off next season.

3/26/2011 10:39:56 AM

Holy crap! It survived the Friday curse!?!

I honestly can't believe it made the cut. Yay!

3/26/2011 11:26:50 AM

Yea well Anna Torv is Rupert Murdoch's niece. I'm sure that didn't hurt it.

3/26/2011 2:44:35 PM

just watched last nights episode.

meh.

3/27/2011 12:06:26 AM

I actually loved Friday night's episode! The first real indication that both universes will work together to undue their ultimate demise.

3/27/2011 12:49:46 AM

remember when this show used to be about 4 interesting people investigating a pattern of unexplained activity? not which girl peter was going to fuck?

i remember those days fondly.

3/27/2011 9:55:30 AM

^yes, me too

3/27/2011 10:39:45 AM

Fox had said specifically they're going to target younger (teen audiences), this is how I guess.

3/27/2011 6:58:06 PM

^^^yeah... at first I really enjoyed this show because of the fringe science, but now it seems like more of a soap opera :/

3/29/2011 11:14:17 PM

I fucking hate holodeck episodes

4/8/2011 10:36:25 PM

lol no you don't

4/9/2011 8:11:58 PM

yeah... you're right

[Edited on April 9, 2011 at 8:40 PM. Reason : é]

4/9/2011 8:39:56 PM

I would have thought last night's episode would have gotten the alternating blue/green and red title sequence since it did jump back and forth on the realities so much. Instead it was all blue/green. I thought that was odd.

4/23/2011 12:03:39 PM

I'm confused as shit at the moment. Think I'm gonna have to rewatch this one and pay closer attention.

5/6/2011 10:43:17 PM

Someone explain tonights episode please.

5/6/2011 10:45:06 PM

I thought I started to get it, but then the observers at the end ruined it for me. Have no fucking clue, other than apparently most of the show was in the future, but walter and all them the first people? wtf?

5/6/2011 10:48:39 PM

I didn't think it was that confusing. The biggest thing that got me was that they were 15 years into the future and it didn't seem like anybody had aged more than a year or two at most and all the cell phones and cars didn't appear to have advanced much at all, technology wise. I would have thought a show like Fringe would have paid a little more attention to details than that. Olivia and Peter were talking about having a bunch of kids? I guess instead of developing cell phone technology they figured out a way to make women produce eggs until they are in their late 50s.

5/7/2011 12:18:12 AM

my wife caught this: the opera house that is destroyed at the start of the episode is THE opera house from Battle Star Galactica.

Otherwise, the episode felt a little flat to me. It is hard to feel real loss over Olivia's death when you KNOW it won't actually happen. But that didn't stop them from spending a solid 10 minutes humming over that viking funeral. I'm dealing with the same thing Doctor Who.

Anyway The fact that they are the first people is cool, though. It would be neat to find out how that gets connected with Sam Weiss. I'm confused as shit about what Peter did in the end though. But I guess that is the point.

All in all will tune in next season.

5/7/2011 12:23:51 AM

So I've been reading a couple of review blogs and the comments sections and there seem to be two camps of people on this. People that think that Peter's time travel did something to cause himself to never be born, and that's why he disappeared (think Marty McFly disappearing in BttF) and people that think that Peter was all just a creation, either mentally or an actual physical conjuration of the Observers who's sole purpose was to stop the battle between the two universes. Personally, I don't see how we've had any indication that Peter McFlyed behimself out of existence, and the fact that the observers said he never really existed point to the later theory being closer to correct.

I wish there was more discussion on TWW about this. I know this show isn't as popular as Lost was, but is no one really watching it or do people just not care enough to create the kind of discussions that Lost got? I know week to week the show might not be as discussion worthy, but surely the finale was enough to talk about, right?

5/7/2011 1:27:04 PM

^ the viewership is not as high as Lost, and I think Lost was better at leaving each episode with more questions than answers than Fringe.

I was thinking the same thing regarding the Back to the Future scenario. Somehow in bringing the two universes together to stop the war, he caused himself to have never existed. Maybe he needed to exist in order for the war to begin in the first place, which was triggered when Walter went to the parallel universe to replace his dead son. However, in stopping the war he somehow removed the one thing that triggered it in the first place, himself. Still seems like a time paradox has been created though.

Also, the watchers at the end made an interesting twist. At first I didn't see any indication that no one remembered Peter. I mean he was talking to both Walters after all. However, when he disappeared no one really seemed all that surprise, which I thought was strange. Will something surface to indicate that Peter really existed and prompt both Walters to work on a way to bring him back? Could be a possible premise of season 4.

5/7/2011 4:15:51 PM

but if peter never existed, walter would have no reason to cross universes to save him and there would never have been cause for a war. so i am doubting the Marty McFly thing.

Peter said that he created "this place" as a bridge where they can go to help resolve the conflict. Maybe "this place" is a whole other world that is like neutral territory? And maybe he screwed it up some how (in this new world he never existed)?

[Edited on May 8, 2011 at 2:45 AM. Reason : ``]

5/8/2011 2:44:14 AM

my guess is that by merging the universes and getting them to work together somehow they end up stopping walter from crossing over in the first place. meaning peter dies but both universes remain intact.

good ep. best show.

5/8/2011 9:31:54 PM

Both universes were separate before Walter's Peter died, and they've alluded to some sort of event that caused the break millenia ago. I'm really confused as to how Peter could have never existed since he's the reason that there was a war to begin with, and obviously created the "bridges" between universes.

Cool touch to try to explain the first people...but it doesn't explain how the machine was built to begin with...

5/16/2011 8:01:56 AM

If Peter disappears why is the device still there?

The only explination I can fathom is that in at least one timeline outcome the machine was created and sent back via wormhole to a point in time right when the earth was formed, thus preventing any tampering with that decision. So now, even in "this place" Peter can cease to exist in order to prevent total chaos, but the machine will always exist.

[Edited on May 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM. Reason : asdf]

5/16/2011 12:53:59 PM

Quote :

"Cool touch to try to explain the first people"

Agreed. I initially took it at face value that they were implying a brilliant civilization existed millions of years ago (and thought that sounded lame). So I was really surprised and glad with the way they took it. Its clever.

Quote :

"If Peter disappears why is the device still there?"

I think that question presumes Peter never existed on any universe. I still contend that is not the case. I am still betting he created a 3rd universe where he didn't exist, but that he still exists in the 2 universes we've been watching (over here and over there).

If that is the case, then we still have the war (walter v. walternate), we still the love triangle (olivia and fauxlivia) and we still have the machine. Which all seem to still exist at the end of the finale.

That is the only explanation I can think of to explain all the things we observed.

[Edited on May 16, 2011 at 1:31 PM. Reason : ``]

5/16/2011 1:29:14 PM

Quote :

"I think that question presumes Peter never existed on any universe. I still contend that is not the case. I am still betting he created a 3rd universe where he didn't exist, but that he still exists in the 2 universes we've been watching (over here and over there). If that is the case, then we still have the war (walter v. walternate), we still the love triangle (olivia and fauxlivia) and we still have the machine. Which all seem to still exist at the end of the finale. That is the only explanation I can think of to explain all the things we observed. "

I didn't mean to imply he never existed in any universe, just the new alternate universe he created in the last episode.

5/16/2011 2:33:07 PM

ttt

2/11/2014 10:00:37 AM

But...why?

2/11/2014 10:03:59 AM

I just watched the first 3 episodes for the first time. Have not watch the rest. But, once I got over the fact that Walter went from Flask to Human trials in about 2 hours, I started to like it. I think that he was the most realistic portrayal of a scientist on a TV series that I have seen in a long while. Because he is brilliant, enthusiastic, and most importantly, experienced. You have to be all three to be a good scientist, and they capture those aspects with him.

Also, I assumed that peter dispersers because they decide that the way to save the world is to eliminate him. Is that pretty much right?

2/11/2014 12:27:40 PM

just got the fourth and fifth seasons today!

2/13/2014 12:33:13 PM