if the laptop had been on there for 3 weeks, it's outside the return date for most stores, so he wasn't getting his money back from Best Buy (or wherever he bought it) anyway. good work!

5/6/2010 11:30:20 AM

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"You know, one day you're going to pull that stunt on the wrong guy"

i doubt it...i'm a decent judge of character and i tell the crazies from a distance...besides, what kind of person goes crazy over being lowballed?

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"if the laptop had been on there for 3 weeks, it's outside the return date for most stores, so he wasn't getting his money back from Best Buy (or wherever he bought it) anyway. good work!"

he bought it directly from dell and CLAIMED he could still return it for a full refund...i never investigated as to whether or not this was true, but i was under the impression that you only have 7 days from delivery if you get a custom machine from one of the manufacturers

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM. Reason : .]

5/6/2010 11:30:38 AM

craigslist people

5/6/2010 11:31:00 AM

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"this is how CL business works, kids: 1.) you never tell someone you're going to lowball them until you're standing there with the cash in your hand...the sight of money makes them desperate as often as not 2.) you don't give them time to think it over because they might change their mind 3.) be prepared to walk away...i can't tell you how many times i've actually walked away just to have them call me back and make the deal under my terms anyone who thinks these methods are underhanded is likely someone who hates themselves for giving in to them"

none of those methods are underhanded, but implying you would buy the item you just wanted to "check it first" and then opening up a sealed box and devaluing the item only to lowball him after the fact is shady as hell.

Also, being dishonest about having other buyers on CL or shill bidding on ebay is also lame as hell. Is it that hard to just be an honest person AND be a shrewd negotiator?

What a greedy fuck.

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 11:32 AM. Reason : d]

5/6/2010 11:31:09 AM

That's pretty shitty quaggypoo

I know quite a few people that would have taken a baseball bat to your spine and robbed you on principle, were they in that seller's position.

5/6/2010 11:33:11 AM

Y'all crybabies are missing one very fucking important detail:

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"i asked him if i'd be able to open it up and see if it worked before buying it and he said sure so i get there, and he gives me a pair of scissors to break the seal"

5/6/2010 11:34:28 AM

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"but implying you would buy the item you just wanted to "check it first" and then opening up a sealed box and devaluing the item only to lowball him after the fact is shady as hell."

yep.

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"Is it that hard to just be an honest person AND be a shrewd negotiator?"

you're probably one of those guys who used to buy new stuff from best buy/circuit city/wherever and return the box with your broken crap in it huh. "i don't know what happened...it just didn't work sir"

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"Y'all crybabies are missing one very fucking important detail:"

nope. when he asked to "check it out and make sure it works," the implication is that he is ready to buy the unit for the asking price, and just wants to ensure that the unit works. if the buyer wishes to negotiate on the price, that should take place before opening the box. by delaying the negotiating until after you have devalued his item, and knowing what you were doing the entire time, that makes you dishonest.

5/6/2010 11:34:34 AM

if there was no mention of purchase price from quagmire, that dude should have asked for a price before agreeing to opening the box

5/6/2010 11:35:27 AM

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"implying you would buy the item you just wanted to "check it first" and then opening up a sealed box and devaluing the item only to lowball him after the fact is shady as hell"

i did not imply i would buy the item for his asking price...my questions to CLers are almost always something like:

"if you still have this, can i come check it out?"

that does not at all say "i will give you your full asking price, regardless of condition"

in this case, he says it's sealed, so my email was along these lines:

"if you still have this, can i come check it out? can i be able to open it up and make sure there aren't any dead pixels or anything, and to make sure all of the accessories are there?"

but hey, since you think it's a good idea to buy something without checking it out first, i have this brand new, sealed-in-box laptop valued at over $1000! you cannot open the box, but you may HOLD the box. please ignore the sound of gravel from inside the box, you can be assured that everything is as i say

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"you're probably one of those guys who used to buy new stuff from best buy/circuit city/wherever and return the box with your broken crap in it huh. "i don't know what happened...it just didn't work sir""

you know me soooooooooo well, good call...i do this ALL the time...i bought a CRT TV 15 years ago and i just keep returning them in the original box until i now have a 52" plasma

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 11:38 AM. Reason : .]

5/6/2010 11:36:21 AM

Also if y'all don't ban JT3bucky's ass (and all his aliases' asses) for that, that is fucking horseshit quality control and fuck the Wolf Web, for real.

5/6/2010 11:37:06 AM

thats pretty shit man, you're like his fucking idol

5/6/2010 11:37:15 AM

do what now

5/6/2010 11:39:51 AM

what's funny is that someone lowballed me this past weekend and i took their offer because i'd rather make some money than none at all

i don't find myself hating them for it, though...then again, i guess i'm just not as much of a whiner as so many of you seem to be

5/6/2010 11:40:17 AM

quag is approaching hooksawian levels of rolly eye usage

5/6/2010 11:40:56 AM

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"when he asked to "check it out and make sure it works," the implication is that he is ready to buy the unit for the asking price, and just wants to ensure that the unit works. if the buyer wishes to negotiate on the price, that should take place before opening the box. by delaying the negotiating until after he had devalued his item, and knowing what he was doing the entire time, that makes him dishonest."

5/6/2010 11:41:38 AM

Seriously? Y'all motherfuckers think asking if you can look at something means you're about to pay for it?

Seriously?

Man, let me sell you some boxes.

5/6/2010 11:44:36 AM

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"when he asked to "check it out and make sure it works," the implication is that he is ready to buy the unit for the asking price, and just wants to ensure that the unit works. if the buyer wishes to negotiate on the price, that should take place before opening the box. by delaying the negotiating until after you have devalued his item, and knowing what you were doing the entire time, that makes you dishonest."

by this reasoning, i should feel morally obligated to buy the unit regardless of its condition because if the seller hadn't opened the box that makes all of his claims to its features and condition and accessories truth as far as he knew and by my opening of the box, i devalue whatever is inside, leaving him in a worse situation (since, by my actions, he can no longer get full value for what's inside)

this is laughable

5/6/2010 11:44:56 AM

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"by this reasoning, i should feel morally obligated to buy the unit regardless of its condition because if the seller hadn't opened the box that makes all of his claims to its features and condition and accessories truth as far as he knew and by my opening of the box, i devalue whatever is inside, leaving him in a worse situation (since, by my actions, he can no longer get full value for what's inside)"

so what are you saying then?

the laptop had dead pixels, missing accessories, incorrect specs? what exactly was wrong with it to warrant the $150 price drop?


we already know the answer to that was *nothing*. so again, you knew what you were doing the entire time

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"by my opening of the box, i devalue whatever is inside, leaving him in a worse situation (since, by my actions, he can no longer get full value for what's inside)"

which makes you dishonest.

5/6/2010 11:46:51 AM

for starters, who sells shit for retail on CL?

5/6/2010 11:48:34 AM

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"so what are you saying then? the laptop had dead pixels, missing accessories, incorrect specs? what exactly was wrong with it to warrant the $150 price drop? we already know the answer to that was *nothing*. so again, you knew what you were doing the entire time"

so what are you saying then?

that despite the fact that i neither outright stated or implied that i would be willing to pay full price for the item, i should be responsible for the baseless ASSUMPTIONS made by another adult?

you're right, i knew i had no intention of paying his asking price...i take it you've never bartered in your entire life, then? i mean, why would you go buy a car if you knew you weren't going to pay sticker?

damn, i went to an antiques street fair this past weekend and haggled with sellers...i suppose i should feel guilty that some accepted my offers?

i'm enjoying this thread, let's continue

5/6/2010 11:52:56 AM

but, by getting in the car, you agree to pay full price

5/6/2010 11:56:55 AM

you're implying as much, anyway!

and you're a real douchebag when you don't

5/6/2010 11:57:55 AM

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"you're right, i knew i had no intention of paying his asking price...i take it you've never bartered in your entire life, then? i mean, why would you go buy a car if you knew you weren't going to pay sticker?"

look i didn't go to buy the new car, then kick the fender in and *then* offer less than the asking price. that's a pretty stupid comparison.


nothing was wrong with the unit, and you knew that by opening the box and devaluing the item that he would be willing to accept less than his asking price. that's shady as shit. but whatever, you obviously have no problem with it. i'll know to steer clear of you in the classifieds from here on out, and i'm sure others will too.

5/6/2010 11:58:14 AM

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"look i didn't go to buy the new car, then kick the fender in and *then* offer less than the asking price. that's a pretty stupid comparison."

hah, you know what's a pretty stupid comparison? comparing the intentional DAMAGE of an item to opening a box

but hey, please continue, these are fun

5/6/2010 11:59:21 AM

i thought this thread was about jacking off to bids in the classifieds

5/6/2010 12:02:14 PM

I think it is awesome quag...


but I would have probably physically removed you from my house if it was me Just gotta have the right guy selling to you I guess

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 12:28 PM. Reason : a]

5/6/2010 12:02:45 PM

I think he's getting at the intentional devaluation...

5/6/2010 12:03:10 PM

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"eh, this dude has a long trail of douchenozzlery behind him"

and

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"Survey says: quag is a twat"

at first i read quag's post thinking it was qntnmfred and i thought "holy fuck qntmfred, i didnt know you were such an ass", then i looked again and realized it was quagmire...i felt relieved

5/6/2010 12:15:01 PM

You could have said "I'll give you $150 less than asking price as long as I can open it up and check it out first" so that he knew what he was getting into by dealing with you. You can argue the technical side of things all you want, but what you did is fucked up regardless. Sometimes the things you don't say can still make you dishonest.

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 1:30 PM. Reason : s]

5/6/2010 1:29:28 PM

blah blah blah

the end result is i win

i'm thinking about robbing a homeless man on the way home...should i let him know of my intentions first, or should i make it a surprise?

5/6/2010 1:31:03 PM

Hitler won too

...for a little while

5/6/2010 1:32:07 PM

if it was sealed in box and he didn't just return it for full price it means he fucking stole it or got it way way way below price (buddy in the back room) and he's trying to make some $$ off of it.

don't feel bad about what you did, though it was slightly shitty to open it then try to lowball him. but overall it evened out, he didn't get quite the payday he thought and you purchased hot goods.

^Godwin's law!

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 1:36 PM. Reason : s]

5/6/2010 1:35:15 PM

I dont reckon quagmire would pull that shit buying a car stereo from CL seller Tyrone out of North Durham

thats fucked up, youre either an idiot for not knowing or completely callous for not givin a damn that you ruined this dude's claim to a return at the store at the very least.

thats just fucked all to hell really

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM. Reason : b]

5/6/2010 1:37:01 PM

odds say no

5/6/2010 1:37:47 PM

hey mambagrl. Chit chat isn't feedback #2

5/6/2010 1:39:24 PM

wow what a piece of shit. I hope it comes back around at you

5/6/2010 1:39:58 PM

^^^^ "tyrone" sounds like a black person's name...i don't deal with black people because they don't take no shit...i feel like i can pretty much browbeat white folks and asians to my heart's (black as it may be) content, though

^ oh, it did...i LOST money selling my motorcycle because i accepted a low ball offer...trust me, it really beat me up inside

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 1:40 PM. Reason : .]

5/6/2010 1:40:03 PM

HOW ABOUT JAMAL?

5/6/2010 1:40:36 PM

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"this is where you can kiss my ass...i ALWAYS stand by my word"

being an honest man means more than just standing by your word

you may be that, but it certainly doesnt make you any sort of decent human, lawyers are kings of standing by their word

5/6/2010 1:40:57 PM

I promise to treat you like shit and I will STAND BY THAT

5/6/2010 1:41:29 PM

^^^ jamal warner seems like an upstanding young man, so i might trust someone named jamal

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"being an honest man means more than just standing by your word"

i'm pretty sure it's not my responsibility to make absolutely sure every person i ever deal with doesn't make false assumptions, but i'm proud of you that you spend all of that time doing it

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"I promise to treat you like shit and I will STAND BY THAT"

haha, suck my ass

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 1:43 PM. Reason : .]

5/6/2010 1:41:50 PM

HOW ABOUT JAMAL THORTON?

5/6/2010 1:42:25 PM

but whatever the JT3buck thing is still hilarious!

5/6/2010 1:43:46 PM

that can be found out by a admin/mod very fast, peek them ip's

5/6/2010 1:44:59 PM

that's fucked up, quag

5/6/2010 1:46:44 PM

and also why would you go to the internet and brag about how you shafted someone?

5/6/2010 1:47:46 PM

i'm doing it again tonight over a camera lens...it's been up almost a month, and he seemed pretty eager when we talked, so i suspect i'll get him down by quite a bit

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"and also why would you go to the internet and brag about how you shafted someone?"

to make you ask why?

[Edited on May 6, 2010 at 1:48 PM. Reason : .]

5/6/2010 1:48:18 PM

didn't quite do that, more like, wow, he's a dick

5/6/2010 1:50:03 PM

He still seems to think we're all in a tizzy just because he offered the guy less than he was asking

5/6/2010 1:51:03 PM

set em up

5/6/2010 1:55:55 PM