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"I didn't say it "excuses" this incident. This incident doesn't need excusal. It is politics at its most banal. If you are scandalized by this incident then, please, kindly escort yourself away from the news."

Your nonchalant attitude and self professed lack of sympathy, which you seem to credit to this happening to conservatives in the past, would seem to suggest that you believe the whole matter can in fact can be excused.

Race baiting, a blatant misinformation campaign, disingenuous reporting and political overreaction can't be tolerated by anyone. Left or right. And previous fuck ups certainly don't excuse future fuck ups.

And if you cant find sympathy for the woman caught up, by no fault of her own, in this "you're racist, no YOU'RE racist" pissing match, then I don't know what to tell you.



[Edited on July 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM. Reason : .]

7/21/2010 3:03:52 PM

Ok, well I guess I will wait until liberals pull the same shit on conservatives and see if your level of outrage reaches the same heights as it has in this thread.

7/21/2010 3:19:31 PM

It's not liberal vs. conservative to me. I don't care who is fucking over whom. If it's wrong, it's wrong.

But don't mistake my posting responses to you as outrage. I'm hardly outraged. In fact I'm boring on complete indifference. If it weren't for the fact that a seemingly nice, helpful and competent government employee has been completely railroaded over some trite bullshit like this by dishonest idealogues and spineless politicians, I wouldn't care less.

[Edited on July 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .]

7/21/2010 3:31:10 PM

I love it when DEMOCRATS DID IT TOO! turns into DEMOCRATS WILL DO IT TOO!

7/21/2010 3:36:39 PM

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"Ok, well I guess I will wait until liberals pull the same shit on conservatives and see if your level of outrage reaches the same heights as it has in this thread."

There are many analogs to choose from.

-The liberal media unfairly attacking a conservative politician? Dan Rather got fired

-The liberal media fairly attacking a conservative politician? Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld got medals.

7/21/2010 5:07:28 PM

All this time, I never realized that conservatives were pretty much the only ones to play the race card

7/21/2010 5:12:59 PM

http://mediamatters.org/strupp/201007210037

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"Sherrod, 62, said her first reaction was shock that, after a career working for civil rights and as the daughter of a father murdered by racists, she would be seen in such a terrible light. "To have people say that I was such a racist was unbelievable," she said of the fallout from the video and Fox coverage. "My whole life, if you look into what I have done, my father was murdered in 1965. If you look at all of us, we all hurt with that and we got involved into the movement and channeled our effort into good, instead of hating. "I am getting hate calls and e-mails at this point. I got one call last night at my house at 12:30 a.m. that said 'you lost your job, good for you' and 'bitch' There are people out there who will believe that I am a racist person, even though the story is getting out there." "

7/21/2010 5:14:23 PM

boo-hoo a liberal was unjustly portrayed as a racist for political gain

booooo hooooo!!!!

7/21/2010 5:22:57 PM

Judging the full video, she should still have been fired. Just imagine, if you will, a white woman telling the same story in reverse to an organization devoted to the advancement of whites, and the audience laughing inappropriately at certain statements.

You don't want to be associated with racism? Don't be associated with a racist organization! Seems easy enough. Look at the track record of the NAACP the past 20 years or so... Half the "racial" problems in this country are fueled by those douche bags.

7/21/2010 6:05:16 PM

^^ look, it's disgusting when liberals do it to conservatives. it is EQUALLY disgusting when conservatives do it to liberals

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"To be fair this would be a victory for common sense and civility more so than some kind of conservative monopoly given that it was a conservative that crafted this farce to begin with. This woman is a hero and an inspiration who overcame her personal prejudice to not only save but befriend this once troubled white farm family."

7/21/2010 6:21:24 PM

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"You don't want to be associated with racism? Don't be associated with a racist organization! "

First of all I dont know how you can say that if you listen to her whole speech. It was an anti-racism speech. If you truly believed the NAACP with its white members half white president is racist then you should want speakers like her to speak to them about ending all types of racism

Secondly there were white people in the audience, and i dont recall white racists speaking infront of black members about how they hate or mistreat blacks.

It is obvious that the white empowerment crowd, which i have no problem with the intent, would love nothing more in the world than a really juicy black on white racism controversy.
Racism has been the fuel in the engine of advancement for african americans for decades and white empowerment groups like the Tea Party would like to use every tactic blacks have used.
They want to be able to destroy careers by labeling people racists and every perk minorities have enjoyed for decades.

Unfortunately they are trying to find things where they dont exist and now they have been exposed for what they are as they try to pass themselves off as merely concerned citizens.

[Edited on July 21, 2010 at 8:23 PM. Reason : .]

7/21/2010 8:21:00 PM

to be fair, she made some comments that weren't pretty that if a white person said them, he'd be crucified. in fact, one practically was. And he made his statement in front of none other than the NAACP. saying that she sent the white guy "to his own people" isn't exactly a non-prejudiced thing to say...

7/21/2010 8:24:02 PM

if you take it out of context thats true

7/21/2010 8:41:34 PM

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" look, it's disgusting when liberals do it to conservatives. it is EQUALLY disgusting when conservatives do it to liberals"

The victory here is that now the Obama admin doesn’t have to be so reactionary at every little insinuation that they hate whitey.

This was a huge mistake by Brietbart that undermines the right’s attempts to use race to swing the elections.

7/21/2010 10:00:08 PM

The whole issue stinks, and everyone that's trying to exploit it for any self-serving purpose should be ashamed of themselves. And people on here laughing about it ought to take a long, hard look at themselves in the mirror and ask why it's funny.

7/21/2010 10:06:18 PM

^^^ in what context is saying "sending the white guy to his own people" not bad?

7/21/2010 10:10:55 PM

^ there are very few if any, which is the point Sherrod was ultimately trying to make. Have you not watched the full video?

7/21/2010 10:14:48 PM

no. in the video, her remarks about "his people" are off the cuff and are more indicative of how she thinks than the comment about not doing everything she could have. I'm sorry, but a white person saying exactly the same words would be crucified, and you know it. she isn't making any point at all by saying "his people."

7/21/2010 10:16:53 PM

yes, she certainly was making a point. 24 years ago, she saw the world slightly differently. The entire point of the story she told was that her views on race changed considerably through reflecting upon that encounter and likely hundreds of others like it.

7/21/2010 10:20:44 PM

^^ that’s just blatantly wrong. Watch the video again...

[Edited on July 21, 2010 at 10:21 PM. Reason : ]

7/21/2010 10:20:57 PM

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"Shirley Sherrod is a woman who has been failed by the system again and again. She was a 17-year-old high school senior when a white man shot her father, Hosie Miller, in the back. A grand jury refused to bring murder charges. Twenty years later, she and her husband, Charles, watched the 6,000-acre farming cooperative they founded in Lee County, Ga., suffocate under the weight of systematic discrimination by federal officials. This week she endured becoming a caricature on cable news as a video clip from a speech she gave in March spun for 24 hours. Sherrod was labeled a racist black woman, ousted from her job with the Agriculture Department and condemned by the NAACP, whose members she had joined in the struggle for racial equality."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/21/AR2010072106437.html

7/21/2010 11:23:35 PM

Booo hoo a liberal got the race card pulled on them unfairly for political purposes


Crocodile tears

7/22/2010 12:00:59 AM

^ lol

says the guy accusing practically everyone of being an antisemite...

7/22/2010 12:02:16 AM

Not everyone, just people who oppose israels right to defend itself lawfully

7/22/2010 12:03:19 AM

And it's good to see you finally admit that you don't care about justice or equality, you're only interested in partisan hackery.

This will make it easier to dismiss your idiotic ranting in the future.

7/22/2010 12:05:32 AM

I do care about justice but there ain't gonna be any relief from the usual race baiting suspects

So... That's just how the cookie crumbles. I'm sorry i am not crying over the fact that liberals got a dose of the medicine they've been serving for years

[Edited on July 22, 2010 at 12:11 AM. Reason : ]

7/22/2010 12:09:14 AM

Are you capable of taking off the partisan blinders, even for a moment?

7/22/2010 7:56:41 AM

What do you want me to say? Of course it sucks for her personally but it also sucks for all the many conservatives that have been wrongly accused of racism. She was a political appointee. This shit comes with the territory. If democrats don't want to be wrongly accused of racism once every 10 years then maybe they should lay off the constant false accusations of it themselves

7/22/2010 8:02:41 AM

Link to Sherrod falsly accusing people of being racists?

I mean, it must be out there, right, considering she undoubtably brought this mess upon herself.

[Edited on July 22, 2010 at 8:14 AM. Reason : .]

7/22/2010 8:13:02 AM

If she had done so, it would be just retribution and wouldn't personally suck for her. She is a casualty in a political battle you stupid motherfucker.

Do you think the only soldiers who get killed in war are the ones who have already killed an enemy soldier?

The democrats have used race baiting as a political weapon for decades and now one of their own political appointees got it used against her. Big fucking deal go find a tissue and move on

7/22/2010 8:17:01 AM

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" She is a casualty in a political battle you stupid motherfucker. "

No shit, Encyclopedia Brown. She got caught up in a pissing match between an asshole conservative media provacateur, the NAACP, and the tea party, by no fault of her own. Then unfairly lost her job because her bosses are spineless when it comes to these racial matters.

That's why most people are able to feel for her. I'm sorry you seem to feel differently. That's regrettable for you, so good luck with that.

7/22/2010 8:26:37 AM

Sorry all my "feel sorry" was used up years ago. I don't feel bad for conservatives anymore either if that helps... I understand this is one of only a few race baiting episodes to ever register on your liberal radar screen so I don't necessarily fault you for your sorrow, but it does strike me a little bit as crying over spilled milk.

7/22/2010 8:33:04 AM

1.) I'm not a liberal. In fact in one thread i think our political ideologies lined up pretty well.

2.) Comparing people's reactions to her situation as crying over spilled milk does her ordeal a disservice.

That's really all I have left to say about it I guess.

7/22/2010 8:39:19 AM

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"No, the point is, as she was recounting the story, in the middle of the story, as she described racist actions, the audience was laughing and approving of the steps she described taking. this isn't a hard concept to grasp. She is not a racist today, but the audience certainly voiced approval for specific racist actions that she described taking earlier in her life."

Where in the video is the audience clearly "voicing approval" for her racist behavior? I didn't watch the whole 43 minutes but I watched the part about the farmer and did not notice any behavior that you describe. There was some chuckling due to an ironic twist, but thats it.

7/22/2010 8:44:32 AM

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"some chuckling due to an ironic twist"

lord have mercy on this child

7/22/2010 9:40:31 AM

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"If democrats don't want to be wrongly accused of racism once every 10 years then maybe they should lay off the constant false accusations of it themselves"

LOL

So there is some liberal equivalent of Brietbart out there getting conservatives fired from their jobs accusing them of racism?

You are far more delusional that you realize if this is how you think politics have been working.

You are a despicable person for not seeing this situation for the travesty that it is, just because you incorrectly feel the same thing has been done to your “side.” People who think like you, who call for justice only when it benefits you, are the exact reason race problems continue.

7/22/2010 9:44:53 AM

^^Can't defend your statement? It's OK - I knew you were fake before this thread.

7/22/2010 9:49:56 AM

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"So there is some liberal equivalent of Brietbart out there getting conservatives fired from their jobs accusing them of racism?"

Try Washington Post... They have ruined many reputations with their habitual charges of racism against conservatives

[Edited on July 22, 2010 at 9:51 AM. Reason : ]

7/22/2010 9:50:11 AM

^lol

7/22/2010 9:50:31 AM

^ lol

7/22/2010 9:51:21 AM

haha, love carville and matilin
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2010/07/21/jk.carville.matalin.fight.cnn?hpt=C2

how in the world did they ever get married?

7/22/2010 10:16:45 AM

Because they can see past partisan bickering. Unlike some people in Soap Box.

7/22/2010 10:27:11 AM

"unlike some people"

You mean the kind of person who gets all butthurt over banal politics like this?

7/22/2010 10:36:45 AM

I knew you'd rise to take the bait.

7/22/2010 10:43:00 AM

the race bait??

7/22/2010 10:59:57 AM

the human race bait??

7/22/2010 11:23:15 AM

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"The entire point of the story she told was that her views on race changed considerably through reflecting upon that encounter and likely hundreds of others like it."

yes, that's the broader point. But, why choose to say "his people." She said things to that effect several times, and she says it differently than the way she says other things. "His people" rolls off her tongue way too easily, especially compared to how she talks about not giving him the "full force of what she could do."

Look, it's a minor thing, but it's still there. I'm guilty of similar talk and thought at times, I won't lie about that. But I'd be crucified in the media for saying it if I were in her shoes.

7/22/2010 5:46:25 PM

^she said those things in the context of the story, as in that is how she was looking at it at the time
she took the white farmer to his people
but within the context of the lesson learned at the end, we can see that she does not think that way anymore

7/22/2010 6:01:10 PM

What about in the context of you owing me five dollars, you piece-of-shit welsher?

7/22/2010 6:03:20 PM

i don't think so. we can agree to disagree, but I saw no indication that she was saying that was how she thought then, but not now, especially given the number of times she said it. Yes, it's clear that she thought that then, but just her speech patterns as she said those things were different than when she said the things that she certainly says she no longer thinks. She hesitates, as if to say "yeah, I know this is bad." There is no hesitation with "his people".

7/22/2010 6:06:44 PM