Quote :

"Fears of health are not random if she's in her late 30's and would therefore be of advanced maternal age.."

he never said she was in her late 30s. but anyhow, im aware of all that. my wife is in the 35-39 statistical group and we're having another baby. the risks are somewhat elevated, but still "not likely". and chromosomal disorders are as much or moreso due to advanced age of the male.

regardless....

the point is, health problems are probability-based and apply universally. it's a concern common to mankind

while this particular woman almost definitely has mental issues.

it's called the "Big Red Run Away Flag"





[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 7:19 PM. Reason : ]

8/27/2010 7:16:29 PM

Um, no. But I'm not going to argue with you because I'm going to school for this and it would be a waste of my time to get into it with you, especially after seeing your previous arguments with other users. And, he only said in her 30's... He can still clarify whether that's early 30s or late 30s.

Not to mention, you have no idea what this specific child would have as far as statistical probabilities for disorders because you would have no idea what the blood work would be like.

[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 7:25 PM. Reason : .]

8/27/2010 7:24:00 PM

Single mothers are a drain on society - I would never support it, even for 2 grand.

8/27/2010 7:42:36 PM

C'mon, it's obvious.

8/27/2010 7:46:49 PM

As someone who has been through genetic counseling (more than once) and gone through multiple meetings with the fertility folks about the donor process (for eggs tho, not sperm), I don't recommend being the donor of someone you know. Miss Samwise knows her stuff and has given some sound advice.

8/27/2010 10:02:46 PM

Two words:

skeet skeet

8/27/2010 10:39:55 PM

Quote :

"Not to mention, you have no idea what this specific child would have as far as statistical probabilities for disorders because you would have no idea what the blood work would be like."

I don't doubt you're more an expert on reproduction than I am, Sam... Yes, of course age increases the risk factors. And of course i don't have a clue what she may or may not be genetically predisposed for.

but you are missing my point. which is simply this:


any grown adult woman who wants some random hookup dude to be her sperm donor, is FUCKING CRAZY. And when i say "fucking crazy", i mean the kind of crazy that inevitably results in domestic violence charges and restraining orders.

so forget about birth complications and medical issues. he needs to STAY THE FUCK AWAY from this woman.





[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ]

8/27/2010 10:41:58 PM

ANYWAY.... I already wrote that I concur she is a crazy woman so I don't see why you felt the need to mention that again.


bb:

[Edited on August 28, 2010 at 12:47 AM. Reason : not worth it]

8/28/2010 12:42:33 AM

I've always liked the phrase, "Don't stick your dick in the crazy."

I suppose that "Don't donate sperm to the crazy" works, too.

8/28/2010 10:55:04 AM

Anonymity is the only way sperm donation really works. If you know the person/they know you, then that kid is gonna have some serious self-esteem issues with "hey my daddy knows who I am but didn't give a crap past the $"

8/28/2010 11:33:42 AM

Donate yours to a sperm bank, then have her request yours.

PROBLEMO SOLVED....O

8/28/2010 11:45:19 AM

any woman who think they can raise a child without a father is crazy. Tell Murphy Brown to GTFO.

8/28/2010 12:30:59 PM

8/28/2010 12:52:47 PM

^^ oh, shut up you silly redneck.

8/28/2010 1:41:55 PM

you're her walmart

be sure when you show up to "donate" the sperm, you wear a smiley face shirt and have your rollback price on display

honestly, you should charge a premium, not offer a discount. what does that say about what she thinks about you?

8/28/2010 3:26:14 PM

I'm not reading this whole thread... but why not just have sex a few times again?

8/28/2010 3:44:33 PM

After reading the first post I was like. Yea dude take the money and run. But after reading the rest of the thread. Just RUN. Don't do it.

8/28/2010 4:43:15 PM

Quote :

"Donate yours to a sperm bank, then have her request yours."

1. When you are given a list of donors, there is no identifying information. There's an actual book to look through -- we got to look through their egg donors. It would be very difficult to pick out a specific person you know via the info you're given.

2. There are actual criteria for sperm donors and you have to be able to meet them. These include height (at least 5'11"), higher education, clear genetic history, clear STD history, healthy and plentiful sperm that freeze well (a lot of guys don't make the cut for this reason), and some places require you be available for a period of time for multiple donations.

8/28/2010 5:21:09 PM

Quote :

"Anonymity is the only way sperm donation really works."

except that too many people are trying to take the anonymity out of anonymity a few years down the road...

8/28/2010 8:28:00 PM

A friend of mine did this, but he made sure to have a legal contract drawn up, b/c he wanted no part of the child's life, and the 'mom to be' didnt want help with the kid financially(b/c she's an attorney, she just wanted his spermies), so he went through with it, had his lawyer review the legal documents before he signed.

He gave her three different samples, and she had her baby 2 years ago. He has the option of if he wants to be involved(which he doesnt), but he does send the kid $$ and bday/Christmas cards, and he did it for MUCH less then $2,000

SO BUD I say get THOSE LEGAL PAPERS verified, go grab a porno, and hop your ass over to yoru bank and make that deposit! Especially in this god-damn economy!!!

8/28/2010 8:39:17 PM

you have to be over 5'11" to donate , hahaha. that is hilarious.

8/28/2010 9:40:06 PM

go ahead and then you can post here in this thread http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=567732

8/28/2010 10:26:04 PM

What woman is going to ask for a sperm donor who is less than 6 ft tall?
Not many.

8/28/2010 11:21:56 PM

hahahaha. wow.

8/28/2010 11:54:25 PM

I'm serious. Google it.

8/29/2010 12:21:39 AM

its one of those things i dont want to believe is true.

8/29/2010 2:01:56 AM

Hitler was raised by a single mother.

8/29/2010 4:54:43 PM

so was your mom

8/29/2010 5:48:43 PM

You need a man and a woman to raise a child proper. It well documented. Sorry you don;t understand that.

8/29/2010 7:53:03 PM

8/29/2010 9:58:06 PM

Anecdotally, I can't think of a single person I've known who was both raised by a single parent and well adjusted.

Not to say everyone I known who was raised by two parents is normal. I definitely know/knew a lot of fuckups who were raised by both parents.

haha, but it at least seems to be less than 100% failure rate in my observation.

8/29/2010 11:02:50 PM

though I'd be hella flattered, this spells nothing but trouble.

8/30/2010 9:22:49 AM

A myriad of maladies. Fatherless children are at a dramatically greater risk of drug and alcohol abuse, mental illness, suicide, poor educational performance, teen pregnancy, and criminality.
Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, Survey on Child Health, Washington, DC, 1993.

Drinking problems. Teenagers living in single-parent households are more likely to abuse alcohol and at an earlier age compared to children reared in two-parent households
Source: Terry E. Duncan, Susan C. Duncan and Hyman Hops, "The Effects of Family Cohesiveness and Peer Encouragement on the Development of Adolescent Alcohol Use: A Cohort-Sequential Approach to the Analysis of Longitudinal Data," Journal of Studies on Alcohol 55 (1994).

Drug Use: "...the absence of the father in the home affects significantly the behavior of adolescents and results in the greater use of alcohol and marijuana."
Source: Deane Scott Berman, "Risk Factors Leading to Adolescent Substance Abuse," Adolescence 30 (1995)

Sexual abuse. A study of 156 victims of child sexual abuse found that the majority of the children came from disrupted or single-parent homes; only 31 percent of the children lived with both biological parents. Although stepfamilies make up only about 10 percent of all families, 27 percent of the abused children lived with either a stepfather or the mother's boyfriend.
Source: Beverly Gomes-Schwartz, Jonathan Horowitz, and Albert P. Cardarelli, "Child Sexual Abuse Victims and Their Treatment," U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

Child Abuse. Researchers in Michigan determined that "49 percent of all child abuse cases are committed by single mothers."
Source: Joan Ditson and Sharon Shay, "A Study of Child Abuse in Lansing, Michigan," Child Abuse and Neglect, 8 (1984).

Deadly predictions. A family structure index -- a composite index based on the annual rate of children involved in divorce and the percentage of families with children present that are female-headed -- is a strong predictor of suicide among young adult and adolescent white males.
Source: Patricia L. McCall and Kenneth C. Land, "Trends in White Male Adolescent, Young-Adult and Elderly Suicide: Are There Common Underlying Structural Factors?" Social Science Research 23, 1994.

High risk. Fatherless children are at dramatically greater risk of suicide.
Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, Survey on Child Health, Washington, DC, 1993.

Suicidal Tendencies. In a study of 146 adolescent friends of 26 adolescent suicide victims, teens living in single-parent families are not only more likely to commit suicide but also more likely to suffer from psychological disorders, when compared to teens living in intact families.
Source: David A. Brent, et al. "Post-traumatic Stress Disorder in Peers of Adolescent Suicide Victims: Predisposing Factors and Phenomenology." Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry 34, 1995.

Confused identities. Boys who grow up in father-absent homes are more likely that those in father-present homes to have trouble establishing appropriate sex roles and gender identity.
Source: P.L. Adams, J.R. Milner, and N.A. Schrepf, Fatherless Children, New York, Wiley Press, 1984.

Psychiatric Problems. In 1988, a study of preschool children admitted to New Orleans hospitals as psychiatric patients over a 34-month period found that nearly 80 percent came from fatherless homes.
Source: Jack Block, et al. "Parental Functioning and the Home Environment in Families of Divorce," Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, 27 (1988)

Emotional distress. Children living with a never-married mother are more likely to have been treated for emotional problems.
Source: L. Remez, "Children Who Don't Live with Both Parents Face Behavioral Problems," Family Planning Perspectives (January/February 1992).

Uncooperative kids. Children reared by a divorced or never-married mother are less cooperative and score lower on tests of intelligence than children reared in intact families. Statistical analysis of the behavior and intelligence of these children revealed "significant detrimental effects" of living in a female-headed household. Growing up in a female-headed household remained a statistical predictor of behavior problems even after adjusting for differences in family income.
Source: Greg L. Duncan, Jeanne Brooks-Gunn and Pamela Kato Klebanov, "Economic Deprivation and Early Childhood Development," Child Development 65 (1994).
Unstable families, unstable lives. Compared to peers in two-parent homes, black children in single-parent households are more likely to engage in troublesome behavior, and perform poorly in school.
Source: Tom Luster and Hariette Pipes McAdoo, "Factors Related to the Achievement and Adjustment of Young African-American Children." Child Development 65 (1994): 1080-1094

Beyond class lines. Even controlling for variations across groups in parent education, race and other child and family factors, 18- to 22-year-olds from disrupted families were twice as likely to have poor relationships with their mothers and fathers, to show high levels of emotional distress or problem behavior, [and] to have received psychological help.
Source: Nicholas Zill, Donna Morrison, and Mary Jo Coiro, "Long Term Effects of Parental Divorce on Parent-Child Relationships, Adjustment and Achievement in Young Adulthood." Journal of Family Psychology 7 (1993).

Fatherly influence. Children with fathers at home tend to do better in school, are less prone to depression and are more successful in relationships. Children from one-parent families achieve less and get into trouble more than children from two parent families.
Source: One Parent Families and Their Children: The School's Most Significant Minority, conducted by The Consortium for the Study of School Needs of Children from One Parent Families, co sponsored by the National Association of Elementary School Principals and the Institute for Development of Educational Activities, a division of the Charles F. Kettering Foundation, Arlington, VA., 1980

Divorce disorders. Children whose parents separate are significantly more likely to engage in early sexual activity, abuse drugs, and experience conduct and mood disorders. This effect is especially strong for children whose parents separated when they were five years old or younger.
Source: David M. Fergusson, John Horwood and Michael T. Lynsky, "Parental Separation, Adolescent Psychopathology, and Problem Behaviors," Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry 33 (1944).

Troubled marriages, troubled kids. Compared to peers living with both biological parents, sons and daughters of divorced or separated parents exhibited significantly more conduct problems. Daughters of divorced or separated mothers evidenced significantly higher rates of internalizing problems, such as anxiety or depression.
Source: Denise B. Kandel, Emily Rosenbaum and Kevin Chen, "Impact of Maternal Drug Use and Life Experiences on Preadolescent Children Born to Teenage Mothers," Journal of Marriage and the Family56 (1994).

Hungry for love. "Father hunger" often afflicts boys age one and two whose fathers are suddenly and permanently absent. Sleep disturbances, such as trouble falling asleep, nightmares, and night terrors frequently begin within one to three months after the father leaves home.
Source: Alfred A. Messer, "Boys Father Hunger: The Missing Father Syndrome," Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, January 1989.

Disturbing news: Children of never-married mothers are more than twice as likely to have been treated for an emotional or behavioral problem.
Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, National Health Interview Survey, Hyattsille, MD, 1988

8/30/2010 9:47:23 AM

you sound like my dad


obviously a healthy two-parent family is ideal. however, a healthy single-parent family is far preferable to a fucked up two-parent family.


but this thread is about sperm.

so go blow a load of it into your sock.

8/30/2010 10:10:03 AM

Your Dad sounds like a smart man.

It is about sperm, and how poopface has the choice to support the rantings of a crazy chick who will, statistically, fuck up raising said bastard child.

You need a man and a woman to raise a child proper. He should not do it, even for 2 grand.

8/30/2010 10:31:31 AM

a stable sane woman can get IVF and successfully raise a healthy well adjusted child.

a crazy woman is going to fuck up her kid whether she's single or married.

any woman who wants the donated spunk of a random hookup dude she met is neither stable or sane.

8/30/2010 11:55:04 AM

My Theses, any woman who feels they can raise a child without a father is not sane or logical.

If you disagree, you are a disgrace to men everywhere. Go watch the switch and giggle at all the "jokes".

8/30/2010 11:59:42 AM

i dont even know what the fuck youre referring to. is that a TV show? i'm too busy raising my son to watch stupid shit on TV. how about you come talk to me about childraising after your testicles have dropped.


BTW, if you ever had a thesis, you'd know that theses is plural. and neither words are capitalized.






[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 12:20 PM. Reason : ]

8/30/2010 12:17:31 PM

Grammar - epic.

The switch is a motion picture, released a few days ago, that puts zero value of the importance a father has in a child life. Perhaps you should take 10 minutes of of your "TWW time" and watch the news or read a newspaper?

Very sad you feel so little about your role in your child's life.

8/30/2010 12:51:09 PM

i decided i couldn't do it over the weekend. Thanks for all your input.

8/30/2010 1:03:12 PM