2 pages of complete bullshit

11/25/2010 10:46:04 AM

I sent an email to the dude as well, here was the reply

Quote :

"Bobby -- I spoke with the committee chair. He said the 51 ballots showed that this year's candidates are extremely close. Many selectors reported having a difficult time picking their top candidates, especially when several top linebackers had such different styles of play. They spent a great deal of extra time reviewing game films to make their decision. Several on the committee specifically noted Carter's less-traditional finesse-oriented style that is similar to 2004 winner Derrick Johnson, and felt his overall athletic performance and coverage ability merited recognition. They also noted the talent and achievements of Nate Irving, his tremendous comeback and his recent record-setting performance. Both are apt to find themselves in the NFL in different defensive schemes. The selectors are afforded a write-in opportunity, so if they feel someone was missed in selecting the top five, they can write in a nominee in the final balloting. Hope this helps. "

11/25/2010 11:36:27 AM

Finesse style of play =

lower stats

team HAS to beat Duke in order to become bowl eligible

sounds like a great way to play as a linebacker...

11/25/2010 11:50:54 AM

So apparently we're handing out college football awards based on NFL potential now. The end is near.

11/25/2010 11:59:43 AM

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"Carter's less-traditional finesse-oriented style "

you use this when two guys are equal in stats and there is only room for one on the list...

11/25/2010 12:06:15 PM

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"tackling empty seats for loss "

ftw!

11/25/2010 12:26:24 PM

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"linebacker finesse = intimidating pine trees"

HD was behind this vote too somehow.

11/25/2010 1:40:16 PM

The UNC bias for McD's AA bullshit is now seeping into the butkus.

11/26/2010 12:09:26 PM

Quote :

"team HAS to beat Duke in order to become bowl eligible "

no they don't

11/26/2010 1:10:52 PM

^
ah the ole 6-6 rule change. I forgot about that.

team HAS to beat Duke in order to become bowl eligible have a winning record

11/26/2010 1:47:32 PM

Technically they can be "bowl eligible" with a 5-7 record, if there aren't enough teams with .500/+ records.

11/26/2010 7:02:10 PM

11/26/2010 9:48:02 PM

wait. isn't this for the best linebacker? how in the fuck can this not be based on stats? who cares what the player looks like? that's much less important than what he actually accomplishes.

I'd love to see Nate get this, but with this finalist list, this award has lost credibility. this award is easily a toss up between nate and luke.

11/26/2010 10:14:30 PM

lets be honest. there's no way he wins the award, but for him to be snubbed in favor of a few of the guys in front of him is a complete fucking joke

11/26/2010 10:48:34 PM

I emailed Ron Arp as well and he deferred immediately to the write in route. Does anybody know if we would be writing in Nate for the final award or is this just to determine the finalists?

Lol at Arp answering emails to wolfpack faithful on his bberry at 10:45 on a Friday night.

11/26/2010 11:09:45 PM

[Edited on November 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM. Reason : double post ]

11/26/2010 11:09:45 PM

this kinda reminds me of Rivers not being a Heisman finalist

11/26/2010 11:19:39 PM

^^^^As Treetwista mentioned earlier, Arp mentioned not hearing any uproar except for Nate being left off. I wonder if this is the most he has received feedback from a player being left off...


And leave it to a football player from UNC as being described as playing with finesse...

[Edited on November 27, 2010 at 3:41 AM. Reason : ...]

11/27/2010 3:40:02 AM

11/27/2010 5:23:06 AM

Quote :

"And leave it to a football player from UNC as being described as playing with finesse penis"

11/27/2010 10:14:47 AM

Quote :

"lets be honest. there's no way he wins the award, but for him to be snubbed in favor of a few of the guys in front of him is a complete fucking joke"

11/27/2010 10:30:19 AM

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112910aac.html

1st team- LB Nate Irving, N.C. State (105)

2nd team- LB Bruce Carter, North Carolina (43)

11/29/2010 5:53:27 PM

2nd team is know as the finesse team

11/29/2010 5:56:34 PM

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"wow can't believe Bruce Carter made it but Irving was left off... "

I can since Nate is not a athlete for the University of North Carolina of Walmart. Bruce is a lot more popular with your local trailer park UNC crowd and your wine & cheese political/lawyer crowd who probably threatened a lawsuit for not including a UNC player. As an extra bonus the journalism grads of UNC did a remarkable job, marketing Bruce to show how much of a super line backer he is. DUH!

Perhaps coming up we can do an American Idol type poll such that viewers can hope vote on their favorite linebacker to be deemed #1. What happens on the field does not matter don't you know! It is all on who shows up more on ESPN highlights!

11/29/2010 6:22:48 PM

11/29/2010 6:50:43 PM

[Edited on December 1, 2010 at 12:26 PM. Reason : no autoplay]

11/29/2010 7:14:46 PM

The Kansas State Cat-Sharks

11/30/2010 3:00:44 PM

Quote :

"I sent an email to the dude as well, here was the reply Quote : "Bobby -- I spoke with the committee chair. He said the 51 ballots showed that this year's candidates are extremely close. Many selectors reported having a difficult time picking their top candidates, especially when several top linebackers had such different styles of play. They spent a great deal of extra time reviewing game films to make their decision. Several on the committee specifically noted Carter's less-traditional finesse-oriented style that is similar to 2004 winner Derrick Johnson, and felt his overall athletic performance and coverage ability merited recognition. They also noted the talent and achievements of Nate Irving, his tremendous comeback and his recent record-setting performance. Both are apt to find themselves in the NFL in different defensive schemes. The selectors are afforded a write-in opportunity, so if they feel someone was missed in selecting the top five, they can write in a nominee in the final balloting. Hope this helps. ""

I emailed last Wednesday and that is the exact same response I got. He must have been getting a lot of emails.

11/30/2010 4:22:55 PM

Derrick Johnson had 130 tackles his senior season, and 19 tackles for loss

Compared to Bruce Carter's 57 tackles with 3 for loss (prior to the Duke game)

They're basically identical twins out there on the field

11/30/2010 4:37:06 PM

well, at least he made the Scout.com All American list


http://bit.ly/fSBS0m

12/1/2010 11:54:00 AM

Irving - 1st Team All American
1st Team All ACC

Carter - 2nd Team All ACC

yep def looks like Carter is one of the nations top LB's....

12/1/2010 12:20:41 PM

someone should email him back and let him know that even the conference put him 2nd team
and that the Scout All American Team has Nate listed frist team and no mention of Bruce Carter

they call themselves experts lol

12/1/2010 12:45:51 PM

I like the part where gunzz posted the exact thing as the guy above

12/1/2010 3:05:44 PM

i hope gunzz posts in another ST thread soon so i can laugh at Ernie's response

12/1/2010 3:08:42 PM

well at least Carter was a 2nd team All American

oh wait

If I ever get the chance to meet Dick Butkus, I'm going to ask him what he envisions the award thats named after him representing. I assume one of the first words he will mention will be 'finesse'

12/1/2010 5:29:50 PM

go to this bar

12/1/2010 6:32:49 PM

bar basement

12/1/2010 6:56:39 PM

barsment

12/1/2010 7:24:41 PM

Nate wins the College Football Performance Award.

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120810aaa.html

From the article:

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"The CFPA awards recipients exclusively using objective scientific rankings based upon meta-algorithms derived from differential equations, statistics, and probability. Based on an extensive review of data, the CFPA determined that Irving was responsible for more overall success in 2010 than any other linebacker in Division I FBS football. "

Some linebackers are known as 'finesse' linebackers. Nate just gets shit done.

12/8/2010 1:54:53 PM

haha that's a big middle finger to the butkus

12/8/2010 1:57:01 PM

^^ It is fitting that Irving would win that over the Butkus seeing that some engineer probably designed that formula as opposed to the mickey mouse shit that the Butkus committee uses.

12/8/2010 2:23:16 PM

^^^i'm just glad that finesse wasn't part of the grading. definitely dodged a bullet there.

12/8/2010 2:42:28 PM

i know it was a Dinich production, but Bruce Carter was left off the ESPN All-ACC team as well lol

12/8/2010 2:46:36 PM

btw Von Miller ended up winning the Butkus

12/8/2010 2:50:54 PM

wat

The guy who had nearly the lowest stats in each of those categories?



[Edited on December 8, 2010 at 2:54 PM. Reason : cept Solo TFL]

[Edited on December 8, 2010 at 2:55 PM. Reason : lkj]

12/8/2010 2:54:17 PM

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"btw Von Miller ended up winning the Butkus"

Kuechly must have gotten finessed

[Edited on December 8, 2010 at 2:58 PM. Reason : .]

12/8/2010 2:58:08 PM

***Official Butkus Award Credibility Watch***

How did Kuechly not end up winning this?

[Edited on December 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM. Reason : .]

12/8/2010 3:00:43 PM

at the time those selections were announced, Kuechly (a former recruit prospect for us, so was the dude at MD now) had more tackles than three people on the list combined, one of who won the award.

S. M. H.

12/8/2010 3:16:39 PM

BAMSJ

12/9/2010 12:14:25 PM

Pretty sure Nate is 2nd team all-american, not first.

12/10/2010 4:12:09 AM