GOD DAMN IT PAGE 2

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12/2/2010 12:25:41 PM

probably the best for his legacy that he is dead, otherwise he would be a white rodney king or duke lacrosse girl

12/2/2010 12:25:58 PM

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12/2/2010 12:26:33 PM

100% of your donation goes to cancer research

12/2/2010 12:28:48 PM

Says the ticket thief. Birds of a feather.

12/2/2010 12:29:49 PM

100% of Cancer research funds goes to vacation and slow painful burials of your loved ones

He makes Sidney Lowe's family look like the Brady Bunch

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12/2/2010 12:32:37 PM

i didnt take any tickets you dumb fuck


i just didnt give a shit about people taking vouchers

get your story straight if you're gonna hate

12/2/2010 12:33:29 PM

I really don't understand the point of trolling...

Are you that much of a miserable asshole that you feel like being a complete tool to people is awesome?

Pathetic.

12/2/2010 12:41:57 PM

i am a tool because I disagree with you?

i thought i was in america.

youre a fuckin tool because you nuthug this bastard

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12/2/2010 12:43:01 PM

no you're a tool because you troll threads on the internet

12/2/2010 12:44:59 PM

if you dont agree with me its trolling.

im taking my ball and going home.

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12/2/2010 12:45:42 PM

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"100% of Cancer research funds goes to vacation and slow painful burials of your loved ones"

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"probably the best for his legacy that he is dead, otherwise he would be a white rodney king or duke lacrosse girl"

I'm sorry, I thought these were just meant to be a derrogatory remarks meant to rile someone up. If that is actually your opinion:

A) You've obviously never lost anyone to cancer and you shouldn't even be participating in this thread because you don't have any fucking clue what you are talking about.

B) You really are just that much of an asshole.

12/2/2010 12:49:16 PM

how would you use those statements to assume that I have never lost anyone to cancer

one doesnt even have anything to do with cancer. and the other could very well an observation derived from personal experience with a loved one succumbing to cancer.

youre kinda like a woman not thinking about shit before you type it, some call it typing off the cuff, i just call it being a bitch

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12/2/2010 12:51:44 PM

One comment was stating how you thought cancer research was worthless.
The other comment was meant to just be a derogatory reference to a person you OBVIOUSLY don't like.

Which is why I listed comment A and comment B. I thought it was pretty self explanatory but I guess not.

If you have lost someone to cancer (which I don't believe for a second), I have no explanation as to why you think funding cancer research is a waste and again think you are just trying to be an ass for the fuck of it.

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12/2/2010 12:52:48 PM

because 100% of Cancer research funds goes to vacation and slow painful burials of your loved ones?

12/2/2010 12:57:49 PM

Okay i mean maybe once in awhile theyll cut open another rat

but my point stands

12/2/2010 12:58:39 PM

actually it doesn't and you are just making yourself look extremely ignorant.

I'm done with this shit but keep trolling if it makes you feel better. Maybe someone else will be offended and bite.

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12/2/2010 1:01:26 PM

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"there is absolutely no way this thread could turn negative"

12/2/2010 1:05:26 PM

amazing isnt it?

only on TWW

12/2/2010 1:07:23 PM

It's not amazing at all. Jimmy V is a polarizing figure. He's done a lot for cancer research, but he was also one of the most prolific cheaters in the history of amateur sports.

12/2/2010 1:22:22 PM

butthurt ass VOLCOM

12/2/2010 1:32:27 PM

Why does Kay Yow have an asian last name, but she doesn't look a bit asian?

12/2/2010 2:28:33 PM

Yow is actually the warner bros word for "pain"

12/2/2010 2:44:05 PM

What is going on in this thread

12/2/2010 3:03:19 PM

Trolls

Lots of em...

12/2/2010 3:50:24 PM

have ya cooled off buddy?


HES REAL TO MEEE DAMMMIT

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12/2/2010 3:50:51 PM

Yeah I'm good

You done being a toolbag?

12/2/2010 4:36:08 PM

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12/2/2010 4:39:24 PM

v

3/17/2011 1:44:06 PM

dead

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

3/17/2011 1:50:05 PM

Didn't want to start a new topic.

Anyone know of a place to buy this pic or find a higher resolution version? I want to get it for my state/man room.

3/17/2011 1:51:14 PM

i agree 100% with exactly 2 people in this thread

3/17/2011 1:51:26 PM

3/17/2011 2:50:17 PM

^^

3/17/2011 11:05:46 PM

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"The V Foundation built the Valvano Day Hospital at DUMC that was home to me and my son one day a week for over a year. The Day Hospital is a wonderful place for the families of ill children."

3/18/2011 2:21:27 PM

i wanna know the cheating thing.

i have no idea about any of that...someone inform me.

3/18/2011 2:31:14 PM

Good news, they just invented Wikipedia

3/18/2011 2:32:01 PM

^heh.....i always forget about wikipedia because i never use it as a reference

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3/18/2011 2:33:39 PM

i mean, still take things you read there with a grain of salt, but it's a great place to generate leads for further research

by the way, the wikipedia article for Jimmy V is guarded by NCSU fanatics

pretty poor enumeration of his shady dealings in the "Controversy" section

3/18/2011 2:35:22 PM

No but seriously, some kids sold shoes and tickets, Valvano had some questionable academic issues and eventually got the boot. All because some dickhead wrote a book.

3/18/2011 2:36:13 PM

true true


^ ok, ok you got me.

granted cheating is cheating-when there are rules in place-you need to follow them....however i feel like that offense is pretty mild....(my ever so humble opinion of course....i've always had a semi weird stance on the athletics and academics though)

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3/18/2011 2:38:04 PM

Never found guilty of anything by the NCAA

Lots of grey area

"Cheating" is open to interpretation

3/18/2011 2:39:27 PM

^^ no

3/18/2011 2:40:05 PM

i did not expect for you to agree with me at all.

but ultimately...cheating is cheating. end of story.

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3/18/2011 2:42:07 PM

James Thomas Anthony Valvano (March 10, 1946 - April 28, 1993), nicknamed Jimmy V, was an American college basketball coach. While the head coach at North Carolina State University, he won the 1983 NCAA National Championship.

One of the more iconic moments in college basketball history is Valvano running up and down the court after the championship game, seemingly in disbelief and looking for someone to hug.

Coaching Career
Valvano's 19 year career as a head basketball coach included stops at Johns Hopkins, Bucknell, Iona, and North Carolina State. He had a career record of 346-212. Valvano was twice voted ACC coach of the year. In addition to his coaching duties, he became NC State's athletics director in 1986. In 1990, allegations of point shaving and other NCAA rules violations, brought to light in the book Personal Fouls by Peter Golenbock, led to his resignation. An NCAA inquiry into the scandal found only that players had illegally sold shoes and game tickets. As a result, the basketball program was placed on probation for two years and banned from participating in the 1990 NCAA tournament. The story can be found in his 1991 autobiography, Valvano: They Gave Me a Lifetime Contract, and Then They Declared Me Dead.

Broadcasting
After his coaching career, Valvano became a popular broadcaster for ESPN and ABC. In 1992, he won a Cable ACE Award for Commentator/Analyst for NCAA Basketball broadcasts.

ESPY Speech
Shortly before his death, he spoke at the inaugural ESPY Awards, presented by ESPN, on March 4, 1993. While accepting the inaugural Arthur Ashe
Courage and Humanitarian Award, he announced the creation of the "V Foundation", an organization dedicated to finding a cure for cancer. He announced that the foundation's motto would be "Don't give up. Don't ever give up." His speech has become legendary, and he closed the speech by saying, "Cancer can take away all of my physical abilities. It cannot touch my mind, it cannot touch my heart, and it cannot touch my soul. And those three things are going to carry on forever. I thank you and God bless you all." One thing Valvano also said in the speech that many remember most are the following words:

"To me, there are three things we all should do every day. We should do this every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy. But think about it. If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

Valvano received a lengthy standing ovation. Unfortunately, he would die less than two months later.

Death
Valvano died at the age of 47 after a yearlong battle with cancer (metastatic adenocarcinoma).

Legacy
A 1996 TV-movie titled Never Give Up: The Jimmy V Story, starred Anthony LaPaglia as Valvano.

V Foundation
In 1993, Valvano, along with ESPN, founded the V Foundation for Cancer Research. The foundation raises money to fund cancer research. The Jimmy V Celebrity Golf Classic is held every year in August at Prestonwood Country Club in Cary, North Carolina. Every year, four men's college basketball teams compete in the "Jimmy V Basketball Classic". Recently, a women's game was added to the line-up of the Classic. With each telecast of the event, ESPN plays videos of Valvano's life, basketball career, and ESPYs speech.

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3/18/2011 2:44:51 PM

here's an article from the Harvard Crimson written in 1989 about the book...

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"Scandals Off the Court With Jim Valvano's N.C. State By Michael R. Grunwald, "I hear [Valvano] had a big scandal at N.C. State. Three of his players were found in the library."--Pat Williams, Philadelphia 76ers general manager. Will the real Jim Valvano please stand up? Personal Fouls By Peter Golenbock Isn't he the chummy basketball guy with the big schnozz and the quick wit? The coaching success story who plays by the rules--and actually cares about his players as human beings? Kind of a Tommy Lasorda without the waistline? Or is he the well-connected sleazeball who recruits naive high schoolers to North Carolina State with visions of national TV, number-one rankings, superstardom and sports cars, only to sit them on the bench? The racist manipulator who covers up his players' drug problems, illiteracy and criminal tendencies without trying to get them help? The egomaniac who pressures professors and administrators into preserving eligibility for Wolfpack cagers in his single-minded pursuit of NCAA glory and the all-mighty buck? In Personal Fouls: The Broken Promises and Shattered Dreams of Big Money Basketball at Jim Valvano's North Carolina State, Peter Golenbock makes a forceful case for the latter, the portrait of a venal, vicious and vainglorious Coach V. UNFORTUNATELY, there is no way to know how much of his account is factual. Golenbock swears he taped all of his conversations, but refuses to release the tapes in order to protect his unnamed sources. The one source he does name, team manager and Valvano confidant John Simonds, had his arm dislocated by a Valvano assistant after telling Golenbock the behind-the-scenes nitty-gritty. There was so much controversy surrounding Personal Fouls that its initial publishers decided to abandon it, particularly after N.C. State officials went through the roof after hearing of the allegations--which were revealed on an early book jacket release. Carroll and Graf, a small New York publishing firm, decided to print the book, and the university began an investigation. So far, Valvano has stepped down from the post of athletic director, but it remains unclear what further changes will be made in the Wolfpack program. Valvano, of course, claims Golenbock's account is all lies. The truth is probably somewhere in between the two versions, much closer to the author's than the coach's. Valvano's record, off the court, is horrible. Despite taking courses as demanding as "Leisure Alternatives," few of his players graduate. Several, like Cozell McQueen and Chris Washburn, could not read before or after their N.C. State "educations." And Washburn has been in and out of drug rehabilitation since his stereo-stealing college days. GOLENBOCK'S allegations will raise some eyebrows, but it is his vivid characterizations that make the book work. There's Kevin Drummond, the serious, hard-working junior-college transfer who can't understand why Valvano picks on him instead of Charles Shackleford, the lazy, pot-smoking center. There's Washburn, he of the 470 SAT scores, who could not identify the country north of the U.S. There's McQueen, who weeps as his roommate has to read him the newspaper account of the death of his good friend Len Bias. There's Avie Lester, the acne-ridden reserve who releases the frustration he builds up sitting on the bench by pummeling teammates in practice. Then there's the intelligent, softspoken Bennie Bolton, whose anger mounts throughout the 1986 season and finally erupts before the ACC championship game: "Fellas, we've had a hard season. We lost Drum. We had fights. We've had grade problems. Everyone here hates V. After this season, many of us are going to leave here. Some are going to graduate, others will transfer. All of us here think that V has burned us.... Three weeks ago, the fans were dogging us everywhere we went...Fuck V. Fuck the fans. We need to win this game for us...Today we have to put aside all the differences between black and white, who's playing and who's not, and let's go out there and give it a shot--for us. Scrap everyone else--school pride and all that garbage. Let's just try to play one game one time for us, just like the old days prior to the start of the season when we used to go down to the gym and play for the fun of it." MOST of all, there's Valvano, professor of "the Art of the Big Con 101." A liar, a cheat, a turncoat, a PR mastermind--this is not the funny loudmouth we saw on CBS looking for someone to hug after winning the NCAA championship in 1983. Golenbock's year-long investigation of the Wolfpack has left him jaded and furious with the corrupt N.C. State hoops program, and he vents his anger in his introduction--an attack on the materialistic, win-at-all-costs American value system that projects crack dealers and inside traders as the heroes of the 1980s. Golenbock sees Personal Fouls as a quintessentially American tale of innocence, greed and power abuse. He offers two plans for revamping collegiate athletics--one cynical, one idealistic. The cynical one is hardly original: drop the facade, face the music and pay the players their market value. Rather than let Nike pay Valvano $150,000 to force his players to wear Nike equipment on the court (And planes--for "team unity," according to Valvano.), let the "amateurs" endorse their own products. This plan, of course, will never happen. Much of his idealistic 11-point plan is equally unrealistic. Eliminate weekday games? Split tournament TV revenue equally among all teams? Even Lehigh? Eliminate booster groups? Appoint Dan Quayle "ombudsman for college athletes?" Earth to Golenbock--come in. SOME suggestions do merit a look, though. Eliminating athletic dorms and coaching endorsements would be a constructive start. Giving coaches tenure might allow them to build character and teach basketball without alumni pressure to win. But eliminating freshman eligibility would unfairly single out first-year students as the only athletes who need time to study and rearrange priorities. Expelling Proposition 48-victims with low college GPA's similarly misplaces the onus on a distinct group of athletes, this time those with SAT scores under 700. Athletic eligibility should depend solely on academic performance regardless of class year or SAT scores. The real problem stems from high school, when teen superstars lose sight of academics in pursuit of the NBA money. Golenbock realizes that young athletes must be taught that they must study to become Michael Jordan, because most will never become Michael Jordan. The body of the book, the story of a season of discontent, is where Golenbock excels. There are a few flaws, however: he does dwell unnecessarily on Valvano's coaching deficiencies, which are numerous but hardly immoral; and he also inserts a three-page chapter devoted solely to relaying rumors that Bias' died from smoking a crack-laced marijuana cigarette, not from snorting cocaine. Interesting, but irrelevant and unsubstantiated. But when it comes to capturing a team's locker-room atmosphere, Golenbock, the co-author of Yankee-bashing books like Sparky Lyle's The Bronx Zoo and Graig Nettles' Balls, has no peer. If you're interested in college athletics or just want to read a horror story about power abuse, make a fast break to Personal Fouls. "

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3/18/2011 2:44:53 PM

Wait are we arguing

What is going on in this thread

3/18/2011 2:45:03 PM

one of the dirtiest coaches ever

wikipedia doesn't even scratch the surface

3/18/2011 2:45:41 PM

thanks yall!

i'll read that tonight (ive gotta make some note cards right now)

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"Wait are we arguing What is going on in this thread"

i dont think so. im just very very ignorant of everything and im curious....





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3/18/2011 2:45:47 PM

billy t. just panic edited that shit

3/18/2011 2:46:53 PM