PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
you are wrong, you cheat and win... all my bitterness actually went out the window FINALLY because of this
i can rest easier now, thanks tressel for falling in line with ohio's "way of winning" 3/9/2011 6:13:00 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
I never claimed that what happened with all this shit isn't against the rules. My biggest issue is with the NCAA rule that the players broke. I realize it's a rule, and that there should be program-wide awareness of NCAA rules; but kids selling their own possessions should not be a punishable offense.
Per the information available now, it looks like Tressel lied to NCAA investigators, and I'm less than thrilled about that; but (it's probably the homer in me) I don't think he was doing so in a shady (a la Calipari, Pearl, etc...) kind of way. I think he was likely trying to look out for the well-being of his players without thinking about the NCAA implications. 3/9/2011 6:21:24 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
we shall see what unfolds 3/9/2011 6:25:55 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
I'll be very surprised if he isn't forced to sit out more games. 3/9/2011 6:29:23 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't think he was doing so in a shady" |
He wanted to use the information to hold as collateral, if you know what I mean. No, that doesn't sound or dishonest or shady at all.3/9/2011 6:32:30 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
hold on guys, i know how to settle this:
who here went to osu or um? even for a semester? 3/9/2011 6:33:50 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
thanks simonn, for pointing out the only way someone can be a fan of a college. dipshit. 3/9/2011 6:35:11 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
obviously the story now is how much balls does the ncaa have, and jim delaney too
it has to be VERY understandable that they (ncaa and delaney) hear the entire nation of press reporting (save maybe shitsville columbus press) calling them pussies if they don't drop the hammer on tressel and dismissing him, or dropping the hammer on the football program of the scarlet girls
i have repost schlabach's column if it already has been...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=6195223 3/9/2011 6:36:23 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
what pissed me off the most in the presser was Gee's joking attitude about the proceedings. Then again, this is the same d-bag that made the shockingly stupid "little sisters of the poor" remark. 3/9/2011 6:37:50 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
This sounds like something out of an Onion article.
Quote : | "Ohio State president E. Gordon Gee said he never considered firing Tressel.
"No, are you kidding me?" Gee said. "Let me be very clear. I'm just hoping the coach doesn't dismiss me."" |
3/9/2011 6:46:14 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
yes, I will be wearing my NU hoodie to work tomorrow
3/10/2011 9:59:58 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
hold on guys, i know how to settle this:
who here wants to go back and actually live in either of these two shithole states?
[Edited on March 10, 2011 at 10:08 PM. Reason : ] 3/10/2011 10:07:17 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
not a pic bomb,,, but its go time tomorrow
both games this season michigan hung around for 39 minutes of basketball... tomorrow it will be 40 and make up for us choking on applesauce in last years big ten tourney against you
[Edited on March 11, 2011 at 10:45 PM. Reason : go blue] 3/11/2011 10:44:06 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
LOL at simonn. I get tired of this OSU/UM shit on here too.
One of these tOSU "fans" was supposed to eat his shoe after one of the many BCS bowls where tOSU got the shit beat out of them. 3/11/2011 10:53:41 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Big Ten champion is the tallest midget? Best looking Van Gundy brother? What else do we have? 3/11/2011 10:59:51 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
oh lawd, packboozie please leave this thread, I've heard enough of your mindless drivel in the ncsu basketball threads, we dont need you to spread the stupid in here too
what a terrible showing of basketball by Wisconsin and Penn State yesterday. The Bucks road to the Big Ten Championship is a lot more clear now that Purdue and Wisconsin are out of the mix 3/12/2011 11:23:11 AM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
^^http://www.makingthedance.com/2009/04/best-ncaa-conferences-by-final-four.html 3/12/2011 11:51:00 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
boozie is an OSU fan? That explains why he is an insufferable, whiny, asshole! 3/12/2011 12:17:39 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
boozie isnt an OSU fan 3/12/2011 12:49:56 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
fucking refs blowing this game for michigan... 5 straight points the refs gave yall 3/12/2011 3:12:56 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
but OSU fans are the whiners, right? 3/12/2011 3:13:43 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "boozie is an OSU fan? That explains why he is an insufferable, whiny, asshole!" |
I'm really interested in how you came to that conclusion3/12/2011 3:36:22 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
OSU's going to make an early tournament exit. 3/12/2011 3:39:51 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
damn... michigan was in position then the refs blew all momentum we had with terrible back to back calls to spark the "cash cow" again.... oh well they played hard til the finish
win or lose this game michigan is still a 10 seed. but i did want the big ten title 3/12/2011 3:41:50 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
^Back when Michigan was doing well in both sports, was that also due to the refs? 3/12/2011 3:50:46 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder what your definition of early exit is. 3/12/2011 3:53:44 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "thanks simonn, for pointing out the only way someone can be a fan of a college. dipshit." |
i'm not pointing out the only way somenoe can be a fan of a college, but i am pointing out the only way that someone can possibly excuse the level of bitching and name calling that the OSU/UM contingency on tww displays.3/12/2011 4:02:13 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I really dont understand why you care so much about something that doesn't involve or impact you at all. It's not like this is a new thing either, youve been doing this for years. You are not going to change these life long fans opinions 3/12/2011 5:51:54 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
agreed simonn, you better stop this shit or you are going to do the unthinkable... UNITE UofM and tOSU fans haha 3/12/2011 6:12:29 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I really dont understand why you care so much about something that doesn't involve or impact you at all." |
That's sort of his point, you know]3/12/2011 6:24:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Big Ten champion is the tallest midget? Best looking Van Gundy brother? What else do we have?" |
Best NC State basketball coach in the last 20 years?3/12/2011 6:27:29 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
^^ hardy har har 3/12/2011 6:28:17 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not trying to unite any fanbases, i'm trying to convince you guys that you're not really part of these fanbases.
you're like people from north carolina who wear arsenal jerseys. how many of you guys do that? 3/12/2011 7:03:36 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I dont, but what if I did? Would it ruin your day? 3/12/2011 8:13:06 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm not trying to unite any fanbases, i'm trying to convince you guys that you're not really part of these fanbases." |
please tell me how i'm not part of the OSU fanbase.3/12/2011 10:06:19 PM |
prb185 All American 1589 Posts user info edit post |
^^^so someone from NC can ONLY like UNC/Duke/State/Wake/ECU/Hurricanes/Panthers/Bobcats?
child please 3/12/2011 11:01:19 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
you can like whoever you want, but with the way that these people talk you'd think they were working in the athletics departments' front offices. 3/13/2011 3:40:14 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I know about Ohio State than the normal fan, just like any fan would. If I ever cross the obnoxious fan threshold then you can call me out all you want. NC State is my #1 school, and if Ohio State ever played NCSU again, I would wear my Wolfpack shirt and root for them to win just like the rest of you. 3/13/2011 11:51:21 AM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
Where can I buy an "I SUPPORT JIM" T-shirt? 3/13/2011 1:33:06 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
^Clearly that would be printed on a sweater vest & not a tee 3/13/2011 1:34:13 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
tOSU scare Herbstreit to Tennessee http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/-8216-Relentless-8217-Buckeye-fans-have-drive?urn=ncaaf-wp39 3/13/2011 3:07:53 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
good god their fans are absolutely pathetic... no lives and nothing to do in a septic tank amish state but whine and engulf themselves in that school
sorry herbie... even michigan fans appreciate your commentary 3/13/2011 3:30:16 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
good god, shut up already you bitter ass 3/13/2011 3:55:52 PM |
Wyloch All American 4244 Posts user info edit post |
You know for all my hatred of osu I always respected Tressel. Kinda like Duke and K.
This is cathartic. 3/17/2011 2:08:36 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
After the ncaa upheld the players five game suspension to start next season coach Tressel asked/said that he would sit out those five games with the players. Good, fair move. 3/17/2011 10:15:03 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
the word is no one seems to care about that
Quote : | "After careful examination of his conscience over the last 216 hours, Jim Tressel has decided to do the right thing.
Feel better? That solemn news conference that Ohio State staged nine days ago was apparently some kind of pregame show. That was the right thing then. This is the right thing for now. Check back in 15 minutes. Conviction is a moving target. The ground in Columbus is shifting so quickly who knows where the game-worn apparel market is going to end up?
At the initial news conference, it was announced that Jim Tressel would only miss two games. That's been upgraded to five. C-bus, you are burning and you know it. You are a national headline, bordering on national punch line. You ran one of your own out of town. The football program is being run into the ground. That firm and just decision the school made on March 8 to suspend Tressel? Just a warmup, it turns out. Ohio State is becoming Do-Overs R' Us. At the same time it lost an appeal of the Buckeye Five suspensions Thursday, the school turned around and added three more games to Tress' suspension. At Tressel's request.
And we thought the days of a coach running the university were over. No sense in waiting for president Gordon Gee to make a ruling. He'll be the first one to blurt out, "I was afraid he would suspend me."
If you think these actions, in any way, mitigate the NCAA spanking awaiting Ohio State and Tressel, you've been smoking Brutus Buckeye's socks. In this game of Who Wants To Believe A Millionaire, the Ol' Stall Coach (at disclosing his e-mails) is running out of lifelines.
This was not closure. The NCAA door on this investigation has barely opened. Think bigger, more damaging penalties. The NCAA might start at five games and scholarships, recruiting visits, maybe yank Tressel's PC. That eliminates any tough decisions on which e-mails to report. Thursday added to the layer of muck. Ohio State just admitted to the world they didn't go far enough when the coach was suspended for two games.
Will the NCAA agree?
In the two biggest developments of this scandal, Tressel has tried to work the system in his favor. First, trading "promises" from the draft-eligible Buckeye Five so that they would return in 2011, in exchange for Sugar Bowl playing time. Then, on Thursday, staging some kind of non-violent revolution with his players against injustices by The Man.
Read his statement. Tressel couched his new suspension-on-steroids as a solidarity movement, "so that the players and I can handle the adversity together." Nevermind that the "adversity" was caused by the same coach and players who are facing it. Ohio State is making a potential institutional control charge from the NCAA look like Tressel's non-conference schedule.
By extending his suspension, Tressel must be starting to think bad thoughts. This could be the beginning of the end. Tennessee AD Mike Hamilton began to hint at the dead weight that Bruce Pearl has become for his basketball program and school. Hamilton said Wednesday "the jury is out" on Pearl's job security. The same, now, can be said of Tressel whether you Bucknuts want to believe it or not.
Urban Meyer might be wise to stay close to his cellie. The free-agent coach/TV analyst is currently unencumbered by employment in his chosen field. There are miles to drive on this road trip. The NCAA is around the next curve with radar.
Columbus, you are burning and you have to know it. In the past week it was revealed that ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit is moving to Nashville to get away from the Scarlet and Gray criticism of his work. This is a former Ohio State player, a good person and a fair commentator. Banishment came for a high-profile alum who apparently wasn't loyal enough. The only things missing were pitchforks and torches.
What about the outright critics -- without Ohio State degrees -- who dare tread on the negative side of this Buckeye saga in C-bus? The question must be asked: Is free speech dead in the city of Buckeyes?
David Teel of the Daily Press in Newport News, Va. had some interesting thoughts last week. He suggested that Ohio State AD Gene Smith had no business chairing the NCAA men's basketball committee. Not only was Teel right -- it showed, dramatically. Smith is one of my favorites, one of the top in his field. He has to be to manage the second-biggest athletic department (in revenue, next to Texas) in the country. But his explanation of the bracket over the last few days has been vacuous and sounded uninformed.
Three days into the tournament I still have no idea why VCU and UAB got in and Virginia Tech and Colorado were left out. Smith seems shaken. His current position is a sad commentary on the state of college athletics. The chairman of one of the NCAA's most powerful committees is also overseeing a burgeoning scandal at a Big Ten football factory.
"Until the NCAA has completed its investigation, we will not be publicly discussing the details of this case," Smith said in Thursday's statement.
That seems to be a good idea at the moment. The less people talking at Ohio State, the smarter everyone appears. " |
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 12:11 PM. Reason : yikes]3/19/2011 12:11:10 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
here's my take on this whole nonsense:
-the players broke a rule, albeit a dumb one -the compliance dept. needs to do a better job of educating players of the rules -Tressel (apparently) knew about shit well before the players got suspended -I think he was trying to protect his players in some way, but by not reporting it to his legal or compliance dept., he was not doing his job -the biggest deal is that he (apparently) lied to the NCAA about not having knowledge of the situation -I believe Tressel is a classy guy, but he screwed up and got caught doing so. -it won't surprise me if OSU won't be bowl eligible this year 3/19/2011 1:55:53 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't Tressel do the same thing at Youngstown St though? 3/19/2011 1:58:07 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
not quite, but the internal investigation seems to be equally diligent: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1920867 3/19/2011 2:06:15 PM |
scm011 All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
bump 3/25/2011 3:17:41 PM |