This season did not warrant a 2 page thread on TWW.

5/24/2011 5:58:08 PM

well - shouldn't have posted then, leaving it at 1

5/25/2011 10:40:47 AM

^ I thought the same thing!

5/25/2011 4:28:56 PM

I stopped doing Survivor threads because people wouldn't stop spoiling it, but I just had to bump something to say how amazing this last tribal council was.

Didn't think it would be worth its own thread. But HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AWESOME. Malcolm is my favorite player ever.

Also, Dawn is easily my least favorite ever.

[Edited on April 18, 2013 at 6:54 AM. Reason : -]

4/18/2013 6:25:00 AM

I haven't watched Survivor in many years, but I've caught the last two seasons. That was pretty nuts. It was a great plan, but I think it got executed a little too early. It gave too much time for Jeff to call out all the possibilities and let the other alliance calm down from the brilliant play.

Sometimes I love when Jeff calls other people out ("Sherry is absolutely USELESS in this challenge!"), but sometimes it derails otherwise perfect planning.

4/18/2013 10:19:52 AM

^Agreed. Also looking back on it if Malcohm hadn't announced who they were voting for (not that you could trust it 100%) then the other 7 may have scrambled more and panic'd that they could have been the one going home. Thus the 7 (or 6 minus Eric) would have abandoned the plan of voting against the 2 guys to flush the idol and turned more on each other.

But great seeing Phillip get the boot!!

4/18/2013 12:40:56 PM

I would have liked to see Malcolm not reveal the second idol until after the voting, completely blindsiding Phillip in the moment

However, giving that speech about how Phillip sucks the fun out of the game was brilliant

I'm curious how Andrea and Eddie will be now that she can't hide that she voted against him.

4/18/2013 7:52:55 PM

that was an awesome tribal, but they're still 3 against 6. they're going to have to rely on finding idols and winning immunity, because i doubt any of the others will jump to their side

4/19/2013 6:42:02 AM

^^I disagree. Revealing the second idol beforehand was the right call because it made the other side try to say who on their side they would vote for in substitution. For instance, Dawn and Brenda threw out Andrea's name as their first pick. If Andrea heard that, she isn't as high in her group's favor as she thought and might jump. Doing it when they did sewed the seeds of mistrust which is exactly what they need to do to stay in the game after this tribal.

4/19/2013 12:08:58 PM

Phillip was the only one keeping Sherry and Dawn safe. Without the federal agent leader I think everything is going to be up in the air and new alliances are going to form.

4/19/2013 7:53:47 PM

dawn might be the most annoying contestant ever. i wish they'd voted for her, because at least phillip is entertaining in his lunacy

4/19/2013 8:33:46 PM

i just want to reiterate that dawn is a fucking idiot

5/8/2013 9:35:03 PM

^Well Said!!! Complete Idiot. Hope the preview about somebody possibly being pulled from the game is about Dawn losing her 2 front teeth again.

5/8/2013 10:44:59 PM

[old] but Malcolm

[Edited on May 8, 2013 at 11:44 PM. Reason : -]

5/8/2013 11:44:40 PM

I am almost never affected too emotionally by this show, but I felt pretty bad for Brenda. That was extremely, extremely cold of them. Is it the smart move? Sure, but this is the kind of move that I don't think I could make when I'm out there. She'd get at least a 1 day pass from me for making that sacrifice.

And Dawn, I mean I didn't know I would be able to hate her less than I already did, but Brenda was there for her so many times in the last few episodes, with the comforting and the teeth and all that shit.

Before this episode I was pulling for Brenda, Cochran, or Eric. Now I'm pulling for Eddy just because if he wins it will be because Cochran let him go this time.

5/10/2013 9:28:31 AM

I feel a bit bad for thinking it, but I'm hoping its Dawn who has the medical emergency and needs to leave the game in the finale. I'm guessing another panic attack after she realizes what she did to her 'friend'.

5/10/2013 9:49:41 AM

I thought it was cold and calculating. If your Dawn it hurts you with the jury, it may hurt Cochran. I think Eric has a good shot now. I don't want Sherrie to win I think that would be on the level of Tina Wesson winning season 2. She has ridden coat tails and done nothing. I just think this vote changes the end game for the alliance of 6.

5/10/2013 10:09:07 AM

I don't think people will mind too much that Cochran did that...I do think it hurts Dawn a lot more, but I assume people on the show are just as annoyed with her as we all are

At this point I think Eddy, Cochran, and Eric have the best shots, with a slight lead going to Eddy.

Eddy I think has a slightly better shot than Eric at winning immunity, and if that scenario plays out, he's smart enough to not take Cochran. Beyond that I'm not sure that he'd be smart enough to take Dawn and Sherry over Eric, but if he did I think he'd win. I believe he's got a great head start with 4 votes from the jury (Reynold, Malcolm, Andrea, and Brenda)

A really crazy final tribal would have 2 or 3 of these guys, but if they win immunity I'd say the smartest thing would be for them to take the girls (if they're both left to take)

5/10/2013 11:53:12 AM

eddie isn't nearly as good at challenges as he should be, so I would bet he's probably gone next if he doesn't win it. i'm actually kinda pulling for cochran at this point assuming eddie is gone, because he's played by far the best game and even won a couple of challenges.

5/10/2013 5:19:47 PM

After Erik got pulled it was a very boring end game. Glad Malcolm won fan vote. No idea what blood vs water could be. Any ppredictions?

5/13/2013 5:36:37 AM

I felt kinda bad for Sherri at the final tribal council.

She didn't play a strategic game at all (unless doing nothing was strategy) and she doesn't need the money, but the jury went all out on her. She knew that she wasn't going to win, they didn't need to keep burning her the whole time.

Perhaps blood is a tribe made of folks who are related to each other...

And water is just a tribe of complete strangers..

Blood thicker than water?

[Edited on May 13, 2013 at 5:48 AM. Reason : ya]

5/13/2013 5:48:10 AM

I wouldn't say I felt bad for her since I never liked her. She suffered from the common misconception after being the swing vote a few times that she was actually in control, which always bothers me. Not sure why, but it just irks me every season those couple people who proudly claim to the camera, "I'm the one in control here, this is my game" when they couldn't be more wrong

That said, I was a bit taken aback by Eric's attitude towards her. Probably there were some unaired scenes where they got in fights or something, but I didn't see any reason for the vitriol he showed. Throughout the whole tribal she was getting either totally pummeled or completely ignored, why do you need to go up there and be like, "Just so you know, you suck"

Also I loved Brenda's move with Dawn. Couldn't be happier to have her taken apart like that

[Edited on May 13, 2013 at 9:47 AM. Reason : asd]

5/13/2013 9:45:49 AM

^i was fine with brenda doing that at first.. but when she had to keep egging her on, it seemed a bit petulant. i would have rather brenda dropped it after dawn said no the first few times. would prove her point a little better.

5/13/2013 10:43:36 AM

* I did not watch the reunion yet, so what I'm about to say may be just completely incorrect

But in my mind, Brenda was only partly out to make a point to the jury. Brenda was one of the most hurt people I've ever seen on this show (justifiably) and I think she was out for humiliation, which she got

5/13/2013 11:03:02 AM

I think Eric was too easy on Sherry. After she said you can sit down, I would have flipped my lid on her. Would have been interesting to see if Cochran would have won had Erik made it.

Blood vs water has to be something about tribes with family members on it. So was this the first reunion show without the entire cast being brought out?

5/13/2013 1:38:26 PM

I think they were all (mostly) there on a side stage, but they weren't on the main stage. I guess with all the discussion they mostly wanted to focus on the big players in the game. I am surprised that they didn't deal more with Brandon's epic meltdown.

5/13/2013 1:44:07 PM

I don't think Brandon was invited. I think they had a real concern that he would attack Phillip. On the reunion show they normally don't spend a lot of time on the non-jury cast members anyways. They also spent a lot of time with Rudy and BR. The other things that bothers me on the Reunion shows is they have larger amount of commercials. I would say after the vote is read they only spend about 25 minutes of air time on the actual reunion. Plus this reunion they decided to read tweets for some unknown reason.

5/13/2013 2:05:51 PM

i enjoy the reunions where they spend time with the people who were voted out earlier..

i wish they would do that more

just to kind of ask questions and get their opinions

5/13/2013 4:28:52 PM

I wanted to see Russell Hantz yell at Brandon again.

Also wanted to see Shamar get interviewed. Especially after the pomp and circumstance they gave Rudy for being a Navy Seal and doing so well in the game, and yet Shamar being younger and a Marine and being a little bitch. Would love to see him get called out.

5/13/2013 6:26:06 PM

i bet the cbs execs were squirming when rudy kept talking about queers

5/13/2013 8:01:30 PM

yeah Rudy didn't seem all there.... a little less coherent than usual. wonder if he has suffered a stroke or something?

5/13/2013 8:08:24 PM

Yeah Shamar was douche and taken out by a grain of sand. But he was a big guy probably takes in over 3000 calories at least a day so being on a diet that is probably around 1200 calories a day will make anybody tired and lethargic

5/14/2013 8:31:04 AM

Apparently the injury to Eric was actually a leg infection as opposed to starvation or exhaustion. That makes it even more odd that they didn't delve into the situation further during the reunion.

There are tons of discussions online regarding how editing influences the way we see the contestants. From our perspective, Eric seemed like just as much of a wallflower as Sherry late gate, but apparently he had a lot more strategizing that was cut out of the show (specifically with the Phillip vote for instance). When they didn't even talk to him during the reunion, it just solidified the fact that the producers didn't think he was interesting enough to focus attention on.

Someone else pointed out that during the reunion, the only 'Fan' they talked to was Reynold. They didn't talk to Sherry (outside of directly before the votes were read) or even Eddie. In previous seasons, they would have grilled Cochran on his Eddie vote and seen how many people would have voted Eddie. Surely more than Dawn/Sherry, but would it have been close?

Rumor has it that Blood vs Water will be more returning castaways with a relative each. I like seeing some seasons with returning cast, but I really enjoy new characters added to the mix as well.

5/14/2013 1:56:18 PM

The whole reunion was very odd to me in general. I can kind of see where they are coming from with not putting EVERYONE in the spotlight. In the past I've certainly gotten bored when Jeff is just going around the room asking BS questions to the people who no one remembers just to get them their token 10 seconds.

But they really went overboard with it. Not only did they not even talk to 3 of the top 5, but they chose instead to give that time to Rudy, who clearly doesn't need a spotlight on him right now, and some 12 year old girl to answer the dumbest question of the whole show, "Why do you think young people like Malcolm?" Are you kidding me? That's more important than talking about Eric's injury or asking the jury if they would have voted for Eddy? (FTR, in an interview Eric thinks Eddy would have beaten Cochran "hands down"). I'm not sure I believe it, but it's certainly a lot more interesting than the bumbling shit from the 12 year old

[Edited on May 14, 2013 at 2:19 PM. Reason : a]

5/14/2013 2:18:14 PM

Here is Jeff's take on the new reunion format:

Quote :

"Regarding the jury, the main reason was staging. We were on a new stage this year and our design couldn’t accommodate the usual enormous amount of people we have at the reunion. But having done it once, we may do this same configuration again in the future. The truth is, it’s very difficult to manage 20 people in an interview situation, and the staging last night was much more manageable. The hardest part of all of this is that it is so disappointing to the non-jury. I completely empathize with them feeling left out. Like it or not, the priority is for us to produce the best reunion show we can. Quite often when someone is voted out early they just don’t have enough story to warrant a spot on the reunion show. It doesn’t mean they aren’t deserving people, they just didn’t get to play long enough."

5/14/2013 3:59:56 PM

I read that earlier. While there may have been a staging issue, that's a bogus answer (He gave another crappy answer earlier regarding the advantage in the last challenge also).

Looked at in a vacuum, even if they didn't have the room for more people, they clearly were ok with the decision to go with a venue that could only hold 10 people. Add in the fact that they didn't even talk to half the people that made it on stage, and whole thing obviously was geared towards drastically cutting down the number of people they talk to, regardless of the fact that it's Hollywood and they couldn't possibly have found a different venue

5/14/2013 4:38:47 PM

Quote :

"and some 12 year old girl to answer the dumbest question of the whole show, "Why do you think young people like Malcolm?" Are you kidding me? That's more important than talking about Eric's injury or asking the jury if they would have voted for Eddy?"

The way Jeff was egging her on I think there was a predetermined answer the girl was supposed to give, but she froze up and they never got there. I agree they should have used that time on Eddy and/or Erik but I think the producers were expecting something better out of the girl.

5/15/2013 4:47:38 AM

Quote :

"FTR, in an interview Eric thinks Eddy would have beaten Cochran "hands down"). I'm not sure I believe it, but it's certainly a lot more interesting than the bumbling shit from the 12 year old"

well he definitely would've gotten reynold's and malcolm's vote, possibly andrea, and possibly brenda. that's 4, so he'd only need 1 more

5/15/2013 6:41:07 AM

I agree that it's likely he gets those 4 votes, as I said above

I wouldn't go with "definitely" for Malcolm though. For all of Malcolm's talk about how Survivor is about making big moves, I'm not so sure he wouldn't give his vote to Cochran

Again, as I said, I think you throw in Eric or Eddy into the final 3 and you have a massively more interesting vote. I do think Eddy probably would have won, I just don't know about "hands down"

5/15/2013 9:22:10 AM

i was pulling for eddie, but i'm glad cochran won because he played by far the best game IMO. eddie didn't really do anything that would warrant winning, aside from not pissing anyone off

5/15/2013 7:42:20 PM

Anyone watching this season? Concept is so ridiculously stupid it's almost Fast and the Furious funny.

Contestants overall are good picks though I think, so despite the premise looks like it'll be a good season

2/26/2015 10:01:14 AM

We've got it dvr'd, probably get to it next week sometime

2/26/2015 10:45:51 AM

I really like this season's concept. Survivor, as Jeff Probst said, is an awesome social experiment...

It was interesting seeing the different tribes take on their roles... and I definitely think there are some gamers this time.. Last season lacked any gamers.

I really liked the "honest vs. deceit" choice they had to make also.

2/26/2015 12:06:49 PM

I haven't been keeping up, what is the premise? Also, most seasons, the premise goes away within 4 episodes. The young vs old was especially lol worthy, and then they did team shake-ups super early.

2/26/2015 12:41:02 PM

...you people still watch this nonsense

2/26/2015 2:47:52 PM

They are doing "Blue collar vs. White Collar vs. No Collar"

2/26/2015 3:20:30 PM

Let me revise my take on the concept. I like the IDEA they were going for, but here are the things I find so ridiculous about it:

-Jeff's CONSTANT harping on it, stereotyping how each group is supposed to act. I understand that's part of the shtick, but it seems worse than normal for this one, possibly because...
- There are quite a few people that clearly got pushed into a certain group they clearly don't fit into 100%. The "blue collar" single mom is COVERED in tattoos, which is one of their definitions of the free spirit group. Also there is a barrel racer in the blue collar group. Seems like more of a free spirit job to me. Then there's the "ex talent agency recruiting assistant" or whatever. I don't know that world, but that doesn't sound like some kind of high powered position, and his personality certainly doesn't fit that either

2/26/2015 4:21:48 PM

Hmm. Would be better in a celebrity season where the teams were CEO's vs Performers vs Inventors

2/26/2015 5:56:56 PM

lost my shit when that no collar guy got all possessive after 24 hours of knowing that chick.

i like seasons when they split into 3 small groups. easy to get to know everyone early.

2/26/2015 7:22:58 PM

Yeah there may be a little gray area between some of the people in the groups.

My early predictions for who I think may win after the first episode are:
Max: The guy with the beard who taught the course about survivor
Joe: The guy who made the fire early for the no collar tribe.

2/27/2015 7:18:45 AM