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LeonIsPro
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"the Congress recognizes that each State has the authority to protect lives of unborn children residing in the jurisdiction of that State."

8/23/2011 6:59:13 PM

sarijoul
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"the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any case arising out of any statute, ordinance, rule, regulation, practice, or any part thereof, or arising out of any act interpreting, applying, enforcing, or effecting any statute, ordinance, rule, regulation, or practice, on the grounds that such statute, ordinance, rule, regulation, practice, act, or part thereof--"

8/23/2011 7:00:04 PM

marko
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8/23/2011 7:00:21 PM

LeonIsPro
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Ok, so where is the argument? He is saying the supreme court cannot judge one way or the other, and the rights belong with the State? What are you arguing?

8/23/2011 7:00:57 PM

adder
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" Finding- The Congress finds that present day scientific evidence indicates a significant likelihood that actual human life exists from conception.
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present day scientific evidence being what? Fuck this religious wacko...
I would have much less of a problem voting for the GOP if they didn't have such a dipshit christian agenda.

8/23/2011 7:08:46 PM

LeonIsPro
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And what is Christian agenda exactly?

8/23/2011 7:10:25 PM

sarijoul
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^^^one branch of gov't can't limit another co-equal branch like that.

part of the defined purpose of the supreme is to determine whether laws (state or federal) pass (US) constitutional muster.

[Edited on August 23, 2011 at 7:11 PM. Reason : .]

8/23/2011 7:11:35 PM

adder
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"And what is Christian agenda exactly?"


Quote :
"" Finding- The Congress finds that present day scientific evidence indicates a significant likelihood that actual human life exists from conception.
""

8/23/2011 7:15:37 PM

LeonIsPro
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So he makes a generalization to support his legislature? I'm sure that's never happened before.

8/23/2011 7:18:34 PM

adder
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Makes shit up to fit with his religious agenda. You allow statements like this to go across unchallenged and before you know it we will be governed by burro's laws

And for the record I recognized Obama as yet another politician when he was elected. The southpark episode about deciding between a douche bag and shit sandwich has never been more true.

[Edited on August 23, 2011 at 7:25 PM. Reason : asdf]

8/23/2011 7:22:14 PM

LeonIsPro
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Isn't that every election?

8/23/2011 7:45:49 PM

BigHitSunday
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" Not a nice haircut and a tan, "

thats racist.

8/24/2011 2:08:57 PM

d357r0y3r
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Hahaha. I was envisioning Mitt Romney when I said that.

8/24/2011 2:24:42 PM

mofopaack
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/ge-all-in-on-aviation-deal-with-china/2011/07/17/gIQAgPmTXJ_story.html

Snippets:
Access to the world’s second-largest economy is critical for nearly any global company. Yet this often comes at a cost: the transfer of the very technologies that leading business officials — including GE chief executive Jeffrey Immelt, who heads an Obama administration panel on U.S. jobs and competitiveness — cite as essential to the United States’ economic future. The “synthetic vision” system, for example, could be worth millions of dollars to airlines, which could significantly reduce costs from weather-related delays.


Under the agreement with AVIC, GE avionics will be on board a new Chinese commercial airliner that is likely to become a rival to aircraft produced by U.S.-based Boeing and Europe’s Airbus. The potential competition with Boeing, coming at a time when the United States is fighting to maintain its own manufacturing base, has stirred some American criticism.

8/24/2011 2:32:11 PM

Shrike
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My biggest criticism of Obama is that he was naive enough to think that his margin of victory in the electorate, and the mandate by the American people to get certain things done (like the creation of a public health insurance option) was enough to convince members of the GOP to give up on some of their most deeply entrenched positions. Instead of just ramming his original plans through the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, he played politics (poorly) with the most important issues he needed to address in hopes that if he could get at least some members of the GOP on board, it would help heal the bitter partisan divide in Congress (and the nation) that had intensified to toxic levels during the Bush administration. It was a noble but foolish thought because in the end, the bills were neutered to the point that most liberals didn't even want to vote for them, and he still didn't get a single vote from the GOP on the major initiatives. On top of that he wasted precious time that could have been spent getting things like education, energy, and immigration reform passed.

[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM. Reason : :]

8/24/2011 3:50:58 PM

kdogg(c)
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It wasn't just no votes from Republicans. Do you remember his budget bill in February that was totally rejected by the Senate 97-0?

And now not one House Democrat has introduced his jobs bill.

But back to the OP.

9/16/2011 1:40:15 AM

NCSUJAK
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I still support Obama.

9/16/2011 3:42:51 PM

disco_stu
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If Gary Johnson or (maybe) John Huntsman were against him I wouldn't vote for him.

9/16/2011 3:44:34 PM

RedGuard
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I only begrudgingly support him because the alternatives being floated by the Republicans scare me.

9/16/2011 6:44:25 PM

AxlBonBach
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I didn't vote for him

but I supported him out of a desire to stand behind the President / be a good American / yada yada

but now?

No.



As far as Ron Paul, he's the candidate with the best ideas. and the worst ideas. and the just plain craziest ideas. Is he viable? Ehhh, not sure. The media blackout on all things Ron Paul is disconcerting though.

As long as Bachmann isn't nominated (which is a longshot) and Palin isn't anywhere close to any of it, I'll be fine with Perry or Romney.

9/16/2011 7:01:40 PM

eyewall41
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The radical Christian agenda:
http://www.npr.org/2011/08/24/139781021/the-evangelicals-engaged-in-spiritual-warfare

9/16/2011 7:02:03 PM

theDuke866
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"As far as Ron Paul, he's the candidate with the best ideas. and the worst ideas. and the just plain craziest ideas. Is he viable? Ehhh, not sure. Fuck no. The media blackout on all things Ron Paul is disconcerting though.
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Also, I think that Obama is a very competent head of state, and I respect him. I just disagree with him pretty strongly on a lot of issues and ideology in general.

of course, Gary Johnson and Huntsman are the only GOP contenders (or candidates, in the case of Johnson...he isn't even potentially a contender) that I would vote for.

^^ Perry is almost as terrifying as Bachmann or Palin.

[Edited on September 16, 2011 at 9:16 PM. Reason : ^^]

9/16/2011 9:16:11 PM

parentcanpay
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I like Obama and I feel like he is genuinely trying to improve this country. The one thing I am severely disappointed in with him is that he rarely stands firm against Republicans, and he caves in to Republicans way too much when it comes to compromise.

9/16/2011 11:09:29 PM

roddy
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The GOP currently has nobody that can do any better than Obama doing...so will vote for him (as of right now).

9/18/2011 12:36:53 AM

kdogg(c)
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Isn't it sad how so many people were so excited and inspired by Obama in 2008 that they wanted to vote FOR someone, compared to how the country is now, where they will vote for him because they can't stand to vote for the other man/woman?

It was similar in 2004, when people voted for John Kerry because they couldn't stand to re-elect President Bush.

I guess that's a drawback of voting with your emotions.

9/18/2011 7:06:33 PM

theDuke866
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^^ I stopped doing that a while back. If every candidate fucking sucks, then I just don't vote for any of them. If there's a spot for a write-in, I write "No confidence".

9/18/2011 7:20:39 PM

lewisje
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Shrike, indeed IMO the battle-tested Democratic legislators of my generation, most of whom will have taken their seats by the mid-2020s, will resolutely steamroll the enemies of freedom at every opportunity, for they know the true object of the GOP is to impoverish the masses, enslave the populace under the oppressive yoke of fundamentalist Christianity, and blind them to their condition by the teaching of ignorance in public education.

9/18/2011 8:06:57 PM

Str8Foolish
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It's not so much about voting for the lesser of two evils as it is voting against the greater.

9/19/2011 10:24:28 AM

GeniuSxBoY
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The number of young adults without health insurance has dropped significantly, a new survey finds, thanks to a provision of President Barack Obama's health care law allowing them to stay on their parents' plans.

The new Gallup poll findings translate to about 1 million more young adults with health insurance.

9/21/2011 4:33:41 AM

disco_stu
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"Isn't it sad how so many people were so excited and inspired by Obama in 2008 that they wanted to vote FOR someone, compared to how the country is now, where they will vote for him because they can't stand to vote for the other man/woman?
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I voted against McCain/Palin in 2008, I didn't really love Obama then either. The prospect of a President Palin scared the shit out of me.

9/21/2011 8:48:25 AM

d357r0y3r
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"The number of young adults without health insurance has dropped significantly, a new survey finds, thanks to a provision of President Barack Obama's health care law allowing them to stay on their parents' plans"


Why not raise the age to 40? Then even more people would be able to stay on their parents' plans. These are permanent, sustainable changes, guys. Nice job Obama.

9/21/2011 11:12:13 AM

pryderi
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"As long as Bachmann isn't nominated (which is a longshot) and Palin isn't anywhere close to any of it, I'll be fine with Perry or Romney."


Isn't Perry just Michele Bachmann with a penis?

[Edited on September 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM. Reason : n...]

9/21/2011 1:43:31 PM

kdogg(c)
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Since the last post, we've had the Obama Jobs Bill introduced by the President (to the American people, not yet to the Congress), and the assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki.

Have your feelings changed?

10/4/2011 8:37:06 AM

bobster
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Attempting to put Americans back to work --good
Killing terrorists --good

10/4/2011 9:01:33 AM

wdprice3
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haha, that jobs bill won't do shit for creating jobs

10/4/2011 9:11:42 AM

BobbyDigital
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"Isn't Perry just Michele Bachmann with a penis?"


I always assumed that Michele Bachmann's vagina bit off her husband's penis, so i'd argue she's likely at least in possession of a penis.

[Edited on October 4, 2011 at 9:33 AM. Reason : that's why he has such a fucking lisp. ]

10/4/2011 9:32:51 AM

sparky
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I will definitely not be voting for Obama this time around. Right now my vote is going to Ron Paul. One thing I'd like to mention though, I think the fact that the political debate over who is going to be the GOP nominee has started so early this year is going to help Ron Paul. I can see the trend already. Some new candidate announces that they are going to run and immediately they shoot to the top tier. It happened to Bachmann and Perry. But as these candidates are vetted, skeletons start coming out of the closet and confidence in them goes down. I believe that the candidate with the least amount of skeletons is RP. By spring of 2012 he's going to be the only candidate that has maintained consistency and I think that will help him in the end.

10/4/2011 10:24:59 AM

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I'm just apathetic about him. I'd rather see a decent 3rd party challenge on both sides. If I'm going to hold out ridiculous "hope" for something, it'll be a multiparty democracy.

10/4/2011 11:18:40 AM

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