even at murray state?

11/23/2011 5:49:34 PM

absolutely

11/23/2011 5:53:52 PM

enjoy being the only poster in your "Official Murray State Basketball Thread"

11/23/2011 5:56:37 PM

it would be a lot easier for me to catch a game, too

11/23/2011 6:04:13 PM

my parents went to murray state

dont subject them to herb

11/23/2011 7:16:52 PM

bets on whether or not he'll hit 40 this game? I'm really glad I don't have to watch this garbage anymore

11/24/2011 11:09:09 PM

Follow24Hodge Julius Hodge
I'm going to call Coach S tomorrow he may need a picker upper after this game #ASUvsFairfield Give him my take on the game too. Try to help.

11/24/2011 11:27:27 PM

The bubble has burst on sendek -- basketball's Tom obrien

11/24/2011 11:29:45 PM

In his defense the Stags are probably better than the ACC team from New England

11/25/2011 9:00:41 AM

lulz, I can see that being a great pep talk. "Guys, I know we just got destroyed by Fairfield and only scored ~20 points each half, but cheer up because they are probably better than Boston College."

It'll be interesting to see how they play against Wake tonight. I was impressed by how the Deacs performed against Dayton. They are looking a lot better than last year despite having a scarce number of scholarship players.

11/25/2011 3:01:09 PM

skokiaan: go ahead and publicly admit whether or not you want us to lose tomorrow.

just a simple "yes i want us to win" or "yes i want us to lose" will do fine.

11/25/2011 3:07:51 PM

Go wake

11/25/2011 3:09:50 PM

I can't wait to get skip holtz here so skokiaan will finally be happy. I just don't understand how he's down there in south florida having all that success while we are stuck up here with a guy who has proven that he will never ever beat a top 10 program.

11/25/2011 3:25:48 PM

Wow, wake sucks!

11/25/2011 9:13:15 PM

Yeah I always liked wake, grew up in HP and got to see them some growing up.

I actually hope they crash and burn just so they can go ahead and stop the bdzelik era, what an awful hire. They deserve better.

Say what you will about Gaudio but he was better than this.

[Edited on November 25, 2011 at 9:22 PM. Reason : asdf]

11/25/2011 9:22:15 PM

Sendek still owns Wake.

Two programs he always did pretty well against...Georgia Tech and Wake. Paul Hewitt was Herb's bitch.

11/25/2011 10:34:00 PM

Nice, I have one of the dumbest posters on tww thinking about me all the time.

11/25/2011 10:36:58 PM

3 and 5

12/7/2011 10:35:59 PM

http://arizona.sbnation.com/arizona-st-sun-devils/2011/12/8/2621240/ASU-basketball-herb-sendek-contract-extension

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"ASU men's basketball program will be keeping head coach Herb Sendek on as the Arizona Board of Regents has approved a new two-year contract extension to keep Sendek in Tempe for the foreseeable future. Sendek's salary will stay put at at $1.2 million per season, consisting of a base salary of $295,000 with additional payments to the tune of $905,000. It could be bumped up at the beginning of July each summer, wth the increase amount decided by Lisa Love, ASU's current Vice President of Athletics, and subject to the approval from ASU President Michael Crow as well as the board. But then again, he could get no increase. He will also get a sizable retention bonus for sticking with the program, a nice side payday of $600,000 if he is stays on as head coach through June 30, 2014. His full contract now runs through June 30, 2016."

12/8/2011 3:10:57 PM

the natives are restless

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=43&f=1681&t=8408456

12/8/2011 3:15:43 PM

hahahahha! I love it!

12/8/2011 7:59:35 PM

Lol. That takes me to a dark place in my life. I kind of feel bad for them... Do they even realize the media shitstorm that will rain down on them when he leaves.

12/8/2011 8:25:54 PM

nah. nobody wants his ass

when he was riding the NCAA streak in Raleigh, he was getting looks from a lot of major conference programs

12/8/2011 8:32:12 PM

Quote :

"If I hear another thing about the 20 win seasons Im going to vomit on my Apple. You ever hear the phrase "Don't tell me about the labor - just show me the baby"??? The baby in this case is NCAA tournament births, and victories. That is the standard on how we should judge the program and head coach. I don't care about the labor. Just show me the baby. But 3 20 win seasons!!! For those counting at home - Herb has 1 NCAA tournament win in his ASU career. With 2 NBA players on his team, when he did that - mind you. "

12/8/2011 8:36:43 PM

all of the posters from the football board are coming over and getting vocal

no biggie. they'll settle down once they hire a new FB coach

12/8/2011 8:42:34 PM

Quote :

"Starting to point the finger again. Typical. Why doesn't he just say at the post game press conference..."we played hard tonight, and had too many turnovers. But, what really was the difference maker was that the fans didn't yell loud enough. If they would just do their part, we'd make more shots, have a higher free throw percentage and I and my staff could recruit better players into my amazing systems once the players see how great the home court advantage is here at ASU. That's the real crux of the problem here at ASU, it's the fans"."

anyone know where this article is? where are they getting this?

12/8/2011 9:15:39 PM

I have scoured the internet and I can't find anything about Herb bashing the crowd

however, I'll bash them for him. ASU is the largest school in the United States, with a total enrollment of 75,000+

they got 350 students to last night's game

12/8/2011 9:51:49 PM

found it

Quote :

"“We played with more energy,” Sendek said. “Carrick got the dunk in transition, the crowd rose to their feet and actually cheered and the guys played hard for a few minutes. It’s really simple, you have to play with great energy and effort all the time unless you’re talent quotient is so overwhelming that you can take pockets off."

lololol

12/8/2011 9:57:11 PM

http://www.houseofsparky.com/2009/4/1/817770/has-herb-caught-a-case-of-valley

12/8/2011 10:13:53 PM

From ^

Quote :

"I just ask Herb to look at the team's growth along with the fan's growth. We went from empty to fuller. Yeah we can't sell out every game, but we certainly have more butts in the seats than 3 years ago. The team can be frustrating to watch. The fans can be frustrating to listen to. "

hahaha

12/8/2011 10:17:59 PM

from 1000 to 3500

12/8/2011 10:27:46 PM

cooler heads prevail

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2011/12/09/20111209asu-makes-good-move-giving-basketball-coach-herb-sendek-year-extension.html

12/9/2011 7:09:54 AM

^Wow. While reading that article I had to remind myself more than a few times that it wasn't about NCSU athletics.

* A botched coaching search (albeit football)
* The "We can't do better" attitude, so we might as well accept our fate
* Better schools you can't compete with just down the road
* People in the media looking past any valid criticism in their rush to support Herb

Quote :

"Once, Mike Krzyzewski was asked if Sendek was as good as advertised, seeing that fans at North Carolina State had also begun to grumble about his presence. "Are you serious?" Krzyzewski asked, incredulously. Krzyzewski thinks Sendek is top-shelf material. So do most people inside the basketball community."

Yeah, that's never a valid argument to make. I'd like to think that coaches are professional, so they aren't going to say something negative about another team's coach.

Herb had a really bad year last year and this year is off to a terrible start. Fans are just questioning the timing of this extension, especially considering he already had several years left on his current contract. The fans have the right to be upset, they appear to be headed in the wrong direction now and if the AD thinks that Herb is their man why extend? He already has more than enough years on his contract to prove he could course correct.

My personal favorite part of the article:

Quote :

"even if that basketball team can't beat Fairfield in 2011. Sendek is an excellent coach."

At least put another sentence or two between those two statements. Help ease the transition.

[Edited on December 9, 2011 at 7:55 AM. Reason : -]

12/9/2011 7:52:01 AM

Never seen a mediocre coach get so much love from the media.

Even if you like Herb as a coach, this extension makes zero sense right now.

12/9/2011 8:04:40 AM

I like how "20 wins" is the new "5 NCAA Tournaments"

12/9/2011 8:26:33 AM

people around here don't realize how bad it was for a few decades

Herb's run of three straight 20-win seasons was the first time that'd happened since the days of the Kennedy administration

12/10/2011 10:07:42 AM

Quote :

"people around here don't realize how bad it was for a few decades Herb's run of three straight 20-win seasons was the first time that'd happened since the days of the Valvano Kennedy administration , ten years before Herb was hired"

[Edited on December 10, 2011 at 10:25 AM. Reason : .]

12/10/2011 10:22:48 AM

wait til next year

Trent Lockett.... junior SF avg 15ppg/7rpg
Keala King.... soph SG currently averaging 14ppg/4.6rpg/2.6apg, shooting 42% from 3
Carrick Felix..... soph SF avg 12ppg/5.4rpg
Kyle Cain.... soph PF avg 8.4ppg/7.3rpg
Chris Colvin.... Iowa State transfer junior PG, 7.1ppg, leading team with 3.3apg
Jordan Bachynski..... soph C (7'2") avg 3.4 and 2
Ruslan Pateev.... junior C (7') avg 3 and 3
Jon Gilling.... freshman SF shooting 39% from 3

returning all 5 starters and bringing in Jahii Carson (4*, #7 PG, only high school player to play on USA U-18 Team), Evan Gordon (Liberty transfer PG, scored 12ppg there as freshman, 14.4ppg as soph, Eric Gordon's brother), Robinson (PG, ESPN 91), Martin (F, ESPN 90), Jacobsen (C, ESPN 89)

12/10/2011 10:50:34 AM

Quote :

"wait til next year"

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"wait til next year"

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"wait til next year"

12/10/2011 12:04:34 PM

Hence the wink

12/10/2011 12:33:55 PM

its funny that the asu boards are now having an almost identical conversation to the one that prevailed around here 5 years ago. anemic offense, transfers, unengaging and stubborn coach...and the unfounded media love for herb.

12/10/2011 2:16:36 PM

lost a buzzer beater last night fwiw

12/20/2011 9:08:18 PM

pateev suspended 1 game by pac-12

12/21/2011 12:38:54 AM

^ wow, just 1 game? don't know anything about it, but that looks pretty bad

12/21/2011 12:41:27 AM

Julius Hodge-esque

12/21/2011 12:43:45 AM

honestly guys, i didn't want it to go this badly for herb.

12/21/2011 12:44:17 AM

That guy barely flinched from a punch to the back of the head.

12/21/2011 2:03:03 AM

I wonder if the dude who punched Pateev got suspended by C-USA? I don't care enough to google it

12/21/2011 7:22:35 AM

You can't punch a guy in the back of the head while he is running away. you have to grab him with the other arm and throw the over hand left and let him run into the punch.

12/21/2011 10:11:05 AM

set em up -------------> (for a pump fake)

12/21/2011 10:12:36 AM