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page 2 2/8/2012 2:56:03 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck you 2/8/2012 6:42:40 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Come on now, his improvement this year can't be solely attributed to Gottfried." |
You are right. 50% on Gott, 50% on Lowe. Your boy was the worst ACC coach ever.
[Edited on February 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM. Reason : same player]2/8/2012 6:58:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
worse than Bzdelik? 2/8/2012 7:01:10 PM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
proving facts with stats, thanks boozie! 2/8/2012 7:50:03 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Here's a stat for you: 17-7.
[Edited on February 8, 2012 at 9:54 PM. Reason : V It's coaching, I don't really care what you think. Lowe sucked ass. ] 2/8/2012 9:37:53 PM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
what? i'm happy with the coaching change.
i'm just saying, i appreciate you proving, with stats, why cj williams is having a solid senior campaign. 2/8/2012 9:40:07 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
bump for being the main reason we are winning in the 1st half @ GT 2/9/2012 7:50:28 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
Thread title says it all 2/9/2012 7:52:19 PM |
eli All American 1581 Posts user info edit post |
2/9/2012 11:51:06 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
dont hate on boozie for that statement. I was a proud member of the sidney lowe sunshine squad but it now goddamn incredibly apparent how that was just a terrible decision all around. We'll always love Sid, but damn, we are 7-3 right now and Sid only got to 6 wins twice.
It's a shame CJW didn't get more time in this system. Hopefully he'll continue his solid play, the team does well, and he makes an impression on some team willing to spend a 2nd on him. 2/10/2012 12:07:59 AM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not hating on boozie b/c of his opinion that the sid lowe experient didn't work, i agree with him, i think most people do. i just find it funny that he takes every oppurtunity to shit all over a nc state legend in an appreciation thread for a current player. we get it man, you hate sid. it's also funny that boozie doesn't attribute any of cj's improvement to cj himself. it's ALL due to the coaches... like it's a video game, like his ft%, fg% and 3p% improved this season because the coach is releasing the x button at the peak of his shot. and he tries to use made-up stats to prove his point. i realize some of it's due to coaching, no doubt. but come on, some of it's due to cj. he's a human. 2/10/2012 9:22:57 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I've been fairly nice, but for five fucking years I told you guys Sidney Lowe wasn't the answer. I took a lot of heat, but I looked at him objectively as a coach and not a NCSU legend. It took forever for people like you and adder to realize the sad truth. Yes, he was an icon, and a great PG. That doesn't mean a thing as a coach. I blame Fowler more than I do Sid. He tried his best, but damn if it isn't obvious that he was in over his head. If we hadn't hired a former player, things would have probably went differently (Fired after the Hickson, Costner, McCauley disaster in year 2).
As for CJW, he has improved drastically, but so has Howell, CJL, and Brown. The majority of that is due to the coaching in place. They actually work now. All you have to do is read Howell's quotes about conditioning. Yes, they are improving, but it is because of the system in place. 2/10/2012 9:30:03 AM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
Fowler did not try his best. That is the most untrue thing I have seen in a quite a while. 2/10/2012 9:34:41 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
while it's obvious that lowe wasn't effective as a head coach, one could argue that if we fired him sooner we would not have ended up with the coach we have today. perhaps we would have hired someone else that knew what they were doing and had us improving, but i'm really happy with gottfried and the direction our program is heading now.
also, on a more relevant note, cj williams has been awesome this year and has really been a key to our team's improvement. i'm glad he at least gets to have one year where improved coaching has helped him reach his full potential. ] 2/10/2012 9:37:47 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus Christ, boozie, get off it 2/10/2012 9:43:42 AM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It took forever for people like you and adder to realize the sad truth" |
if you go back and read those arguments at the time, i don't think i ever tried to argue that sid was a great coach, or even a good coach. i was mostly arguing that you were being a jerk for constantly berating the coach that we currently had on the side-line, coaching our team. the guy who brought in cj leslie, brown, harrow, howell, wood. many times i would say "at least wait til the season is over before you shit all over him". it's funny that you think you were some sort of teacher, trying to prove to me that he wasn't a good coach. i told you many times, especially towards the end, "it's not that you're wrong boozie, it's just that you're an a-hole".
anyways, enough of that, it's over, and i think most of us our very happy with the coaching change, and can see that he's motivating these players much better than our previos coach.
let's focus on appreciating cj williams.2/10/2012 9:46:59 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fowler did not try his best. That is the most untrue thing I have seen in a quite a while." |
Read it again son. I'm talking about Sid. Fuck Fowler.
Quote : | "Jesus Christ, boozie, get off it" |
Jesus Christ, Ernie, get off Josh Hamilton
[Edited on February 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM. Reason : Ernie being a dick imagine that]2/10/2012 9:57:44 AM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
Senior night for CJ Williams.
http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2012/02/29/1160581?sac=fo.sports
Including even the exhibition games, CJ's dad has only missed two of his games as a Wolfpacker. 2/29/2012 11:21:22 AM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Article in the N&O about him too: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/02/29/1892413/the-long-and-winding-road.html
Better live up to his potential. I love seeing his parents at the games. 2/29/2012 11:23:00 AM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
Was thinking about skipping this one. The drive sucks for a 9 PM game, but I remembered I have to be there for Fayetteville/CJW senior night. 2/29/2012 11:39:51 AM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
Another story about CJW's devoted dad
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/story/10832537/
NC State guards cheering section logs many devoted miles (that's a confusing headline, they forgot an apostrophe) 3/9/2012 9:47:24 AM |
Elwood All American 4084 Posts user info edit post |
I would Appreciate CJW being the CJW of a month ago and make some shots
He was way off yesterday (besides the buzzer beater) 3/9/2012 9:49:59 AM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
That was an awesome buzzer beater though. 3/9/2012 9:50:23 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
is there an official "ACC most improved player" award? 3/9/2012 10:20:51 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Yes the media gives it out and it went to Harrison Barnes in November. 3/9/2012 10:24:58 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Go out with a bang buddy. Step up in the tournament plz. 3/10/2012 4:49:45 PM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
This needs to be posted. http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/video/10853221/#/vid10853221
CJW is a great Wolfpack ambassador, super classy. Hopefully he'll have a long successful basketball career, representing NCSU. After seeing his poise on the court and listening to him talk about basketball, i could definitely see him being a coach after his playing days are over. 3/14/2012 10:53:12 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
+1,000 credible. hit some big shots, thank you! 3/18/2012 3:21:57 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Absolutely. CJ Williams made some game changing plays. Glad to see he's back.
3/18/2012 3:22:42 PM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
Dude stepped the fuck up big time today
Thx for coming back at the most opportune time 3/18/2012 3:25:20 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
+1, he showed up big time today in the clutch. 3/18/2012 3:43:15 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
So happy for this kid 3/18/2012 3:44:49 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
+20. seems like a great kid and hit some big time shots! Hope he's on the rise from his slump and plays even better friday 3/18/2012 5:37:42 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I appreciate 3/18/2012 8:27:55 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
yeah CJW really made the difference for us this season. We weren't sure what we were going to get from him and he stepped up as a scorer. He's always been a good all-around defender, rebounder, etc. but the scoring was what was lacking.
He struggled the last few weeks but today he was huge for us in the first half when we got down big 3/18/2012 8:29:19 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
so happy for him today. 3/18/2012 11:26:27 PM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
I found it interesting that in a recent interview (can't remember if it was before the tournament or over the weekend) he referred to his "best friend, javi gonzalez". he also gave props to courntey fells and ben mccauley for helping him get to where he is now. 3/19/2012 2:04:48 PM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
I think he said that last night to the crowd at the Dail Basketball Center 3/19/2012 2:09:21 PM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
I thought i remember it being in an interview in a gym (maybe dail center). I thought he said to the crowd last night "yall know i've been here for 4 years, and it's been tough, but it was all worth it to feel like i do right now." 3/19/2012 2:18:53 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
he didn't say it's been tough, he said he's been "going through the struggle" or something like that. not struggling, but the struggle. 3/19/2012 2:39:27 PM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
^^Was it after the Gtown game to local media? I've been looking around but can't find anything. 3/19/2012 3:18:18 PM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
^it was in the video of the team being greeted by the fans at the Dail Center after returning to Raleigh after the G'town game.
Somebody handed a bullhorn to Gottfried, he said some words, then Howell said, "Beard Gang," then Alex Johnson started a quick "WOLF!... PACK" chant, then CJ Williams said that "everybody knows i've been here for 4 years goin' through the struggles... but I've got to say... IT WAS ALL WORTH IT FOR THE FEELING I'VE GOT RIGHT NOW!!!!!" and the crowd went nuts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0jcU1B8-cE&feature=youtu.be&a
So happy for CJ.
[Edited on March 19, 2012 at 3:29 PM. Reason : link] 3/19/2012 3:27:46 PM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure the interview where he talks about javi, courtney, and ben was a wral video. i remember him sitting on a chair in a gym, the background is cream, and he's sitting slightly sideways with the right-side of his face facing the camera. iirc. 3/19/2012 3:48:33 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
^ i find that slightly creepy for some reason 3/19/2012 4:04:47 PM |
Bullet All American 28410 Posts user info edit post |
i've just got a pretty good memory when it comes to some things. i only mention those details because i just went back and looked for the vid, and found a few interviews, but from just looking at the thumbnails of the vid, i'm pretty sure they weren't the right ones, because they don't fit the description i just posted. then again, i could be wrong. 3/19/2012 4:09:46 PM |
wahoowa All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=nc-cotsonika_midwest_region_ncstate_williams_031812
Quote : | "C.J. had a chance to graduate early last spring, after NCSU hired a new coach, Mark Gottfried. The first time C.J. spoke to Gottfried, he told him he didn’t want to waste his last year of eligibility on a rebuilding project.
“I would have left and tried to go somewhere where we could win right away,” C.J. said. “But he told me, ‘I’m not coming to rebuild anything. I’m coming to improve.’ So I felt comfortable with him.”
And Gottfried felt comfortable with C.J., doubling his playing time from last season, from 17.6 minutes to 31.0. C.J. shot 52.9 percent from the field through the first 29 games of the season." |
3/20/2012 12:12:10 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/032012aaa.html
Pack Perspective with Mark Thomas Senior Guard C.J. Williams
March 20, 2012
Mark Thomas visits with senior C.J. Williams to reminisce about his basketball career as a member of the Wolfpack.
Confirmed: Javi is his best friend. 3/21/2012 12:14:32 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
For me the picture of CJ hugging his dad never disappears and blocks the whole video for me. 3/21/2012 12:32:28 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
We need a big dog game from CJW tomorrow night. He can score on these guys.
Would like to see 14 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 6/10 FG, 2/4 3's tomorrow. He is definitely a key to the game, we need perimeter scoring to beat KU. 3/22/2012 10:42:04 PM |