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Str8Foolish
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"Once upon a time, aaronburro saw a toilet seat at Walmart for $11.99. Forever after, aaronburro could never understand how anything toilet related could ever possibly cost more than $11.99."


How much you wanna bet he thinks the famous "NASA and the zero-gravity pen" story is real too?

I could turn aaronburro into a Commie overnight if I emailed him Das Kapital with the subject line "Fwd:fwd:fwd YOU GOTTA READ THIS!! re: Bacrock Oshitma does it again!"




[Edited on February 24, 2012 at 2:55 PM. Reason : .]

2/24/2012 2:52:42 PM

aaronburro
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I see a lot of snark and no actual rebuttal. you fail to see how something like this being caught by no one is emblematic of the problem, and revel that it took the president to say something about it, as if that shows that the gov't isn't fucking wasteful.

2/24/2012 9:17:17 PM

A Tanzarian
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"I see a lot of snark and no actual rebuttal. you fail to see how something like this being caught by no one is emblematic of the problem, and revel that it took the president to say something about it, as if that shows that the gov't isn't fucking wasteful."


Lots of snark and no rebuttal?

Do you read?

CaelNCSU:

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"The P-3C Orion antisubmarine aircraft went into service in 1962. Twenty-five years later it was determined that the toilet shroud, the cover that fits over the toilet, needed replacement. Since the airplane was out of production this would require new tooling to produce. These on-board toilets required a uniquely shaped, molded fiberglass shroud that had to satisfy specifications for vibration resistance, weight, and durability. The molds had to be specially made, as it had been decades since their original production. The price reflected the design work and the cost of the equipment to manufacture them. Lockheed Corp. charged $34,560 for 54 toilet covers, or $640 each.[2]

President Reagan held a televised news conference in 1987, where he held up one of these shrouds and stated: "We didn't buy any $600 toilet seat. We bought a $600 molded plastic cover for the entire toilet system." A Pentagon spokesman, Glenn Flood stated, "The original price we were charged was $640, not just for a toilet seat, but for the large molded plastic assembly covering the entire seat, tank and full toilet assembly. The seat itself cost $9 and some cents.… The supplier charged too much, and we had the amount corrected."[3] The president of Lockheed at the time, Lawrence Kitchen, adjusted to the price to $100 each and returned $29,165. "This action is intended to put to rest an artificial issue," Kitchen stated.[2]"


You have have provided no substantive response to this; one post was 'well, what about...' and the other "well, Lockheed was wrong...'.

Do you have any response whatsoever to the Wikipedia article CaelNCSU posted? Can you explain how limited quantities of custom manufactured parts--with stringent engineering and extensive quality assurance requirements--shouldn't cost so much? Do you have any data showing private industry paying significantly less for limited quantities of custom manufactured parts with stringent engineering and extensive quality assurance requirements?

2/24/2012 10:20:18 PM

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