umop-apisdn Snaaaaaake 4549 Posts user info edit post |
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packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
I think about this from time to time, maybe I'm missing something. Time travel must never be possible at any point in the future of mankind, because wouldn't somebody have visited from the future, or if they did at some point, wouldn't we have some record of it?
Crazy shit I know, carry on with your UFO's. 7/16/2012 5:25:17 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
^ You should definitely watch 12 Monkeys. It's an awesome movie. 7/17/2012 1:03:22 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Tourism in time
Stephen Hawking has suggested that the absence of tourists from the future is an argument against the existence of time travel—a variant of the Fermi paradox. Of course this would not prove that time travel is physically impossible, since it might be that time travel is physically possible but that it is never developed (or is cautiously never used); and even if it is developed, Hawking notes elsewhere that time travel might only be possible in a region of spacetime that is warped in the correct way, and that if we cannot create such a region until the future, then time travelers would not be able to travel back before that date, so "This picture would explain why we haven't been over run by tourists from the future."[19] Carl Sagan also once suggested the possibility that time travelers could be here, but are disguising their existence or are not recognized as time travelers" |
7/17/2012 8:53:13 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Some have theorized that some UFO's could be time travelers or interdimensional craft. Hawking and Sagan are of course two incredibly brilliant minds so I value what they have to say for sure. Another possibility is if you were travel into the past you would immediately alter it. This would put you on an alternate timeline that everyone else in the current time would never see or interact with. Of course that would then raise the question "Well couldn't this be a timeline resulting from a time traveler's visit, or multiple time travelers?" Obviously nobody has those answers that I'm aware of. 7/17/2012 9:04:28 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
John Titor feels as if this it is necessary for me to post this on behalf of AxlBonBach:
7/17/2012 9:17:14 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
^^I find the concept of time traveling into the past to be incoherent anyway. The past is set and cannot be changed. Simply being in the past would create paradoxes. Shifted timelines might be a solution but even then that indicates even if someone from our future goes to the "past" they aren't going to our past which will remain exactly the same.
We'd have to learn some very new and outlandish things about spacetime and causality for time travel (backward) to make even a lick of sense to me. 7/17/2012 9:44:33 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty confident that there are other lifeforms out there, probably even intelligent ones, but I doubt we will ever visit them or they will ever visit us.
I just have a feeling that the lightspeed barrier is a nut we won't ever crack. It's not just another one of those things "everyone said was impossible" like splitting the atom (which we have done) or sustainable fusion (which we haven't but probably will). Those things happen in nature constantly, humanity just recreated already existing natural processes. 7/17/2012 10:19:25 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah but folding space or wormholes are still conceptually possible even given general relativity. I think once we figure out how to get lots and lots of energy everywhere very "science-fictiony" things will come about. 7/17/2012 10:30:27 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
UFO Files: Declassified U.K. Documents Released, Reveal Tony Blair Was Briefed On UFO Sightings
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/tony-blair-ufo-briefings_n_1676157.html 7/17/2012 8:46:46 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Dude tells CNN a UFO is visiting Denver a couple of times a week, shows them video. Skeptical CNN camera crew shows up and films same UFO, at same time.
http://cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2012/11/13/co-ufo-sightings-in-denver.kdvr.html 11/14/2012 1:44:07 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
this stuff started around may this year
here is a 21 page thread about the denver stuff http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread897920/pg1 11/14/2012 1:57:04 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
For faster-than-light travel possibilities you need to consider other means aside from point A to point B travel. The Alcubierre Drive is one idea:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
NASA Scientists looking into warping space-time for FTL travel:
http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive 11/21/2012 10:26:51 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
the news needs to setup two cameras to look at the area from alternate angles 11/21/2012 10:38:08 AM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, that Denver "phenomenon" is probably a bug flying in front of the camera. When you have something small moving around in front of a far-away background, its going to have the illusion of a distant object moving impossibly fast. People have been mistaking bugs for UFOs and ghosts for decades, and it's pretty pathetic. 11/21/2012 4:22:05 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
It's highly unlikely that aliens will be flesh and blood. They have likely evolved to the point of being artificial by this point. 11/21/2012 6:16:44 PM |
jcgolden Suspended 1394 Posts user info edit post |
a lot of talk about evolution in har. not a hole lot of evolution happening to Humans right now. at some point we got to stop fearing 1984 and Gattaca and start breeding and engineering ourselves if we want to be successful. if we run into aliens, I'm sure they will have already gone through this phase. 11/22/2012 6:15:15 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Not a hole lot of evolution? 11/22/2012 6:26:30 PM |
Opstand All American 9256 Posts user info edit post |
About time travelers, maybe none have come to this point in time because there is no allure? Think about it, we have only been here for a blink of an eye in terms of the age of the universe. We still kill each other over imaginary lines on the ground, the color of someone's skin, or their religious belief. We are still very barbarian in nature. If humanity manages to continue to exist and advance for another 100,000 years, why risk coming back to the early days where you might contract some incurable disease that has been eradicated in the future, or get killed because you look different?
As for other life forms, I really think they exist. I'm not sure in what capacity though. We are just interesting combinations of energy formed from stars billions of years ago. Who is to say that another life form is a different form of energy that we can't even experience in our limited human states? There is now some very limited mathematical proof and thought that there are multiple universes, so possibly there is life there as well.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/20/brian-greene-welcome-to-the-multiverse.html
I'm skeptical that any UFO sighting is real, but I feel confident that there are many other life forms that exist in our universe, some (or many) that we may not even be able to detect as humans. 11/23/2012 8:27:49 AM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
maybe ghosts are really time travelers or aliens!!! 11/24/2012 1:48:05 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If humanity manages to continue to exist and advance for another 100,000 years, why risk coming back to the early days where you might contract some incurable disease that has been eradicated in the future, or get killed because you look different?" |
This logic works at first but what about after 1000000000 years of time traveling. Eventually, there would be one hipster who would think it is cool to come back to 2012. When the sample size, has no limit, theres a 100% likelihood that someone would travel back to every specific instance.
Unless of course humanity ceased shortly after the discoveru of timetrravel or everyone simply traveled away until nobody was left but that that creates a paradox of having no future at all thus and no future to travel to. Therefore there can never be the possibility of time travel backwards ever at any time in the distant future. Its literally impossible.11/24/2012 4:33:24 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Japan claims that a UFO has crashed off the coast of Okinawa and that the gov. has recovered some of it. Also claims to be leaking something and killing millions of fish.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/11/ufo-crash-off-japan-coast_n_2272765.html
alt news website: http://inothernewz.com/japanese-government-official-confirms-partial-recovery-of-crashed-ufo/ http://inothernewz.com/japanese-navy-releases-first-photo-of-downed-ufo-off-the-coast-of-okinawa/ http://inothernewz.com/nippon-tv-reports-downed-ufo-off-the-coast-of-okinawa/ 12/12/2012 4:29:27 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
I expect lots of these reports now that American police have drones in the sky 24/7. I'm familiar with a few of them but some of the designs even surprise me. 12/13/2012 1:29:47 AM |
jcgolden Suspended 1394 Posts user info edit post |
new science says 95 of the stars that will ever be are already existince 12/17/2012 12:11:11 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
An entire 95 of them? That is remarkable 12/17/2012 12:16:44 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
^^ now you're just trying too hard, sis 12/17/2012 1:43:55 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Thousand Witness UFO'S Over Brazilian Protest 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAnIxpiJopE 7/4/2013 6:23:39 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
That story above about the Japanese UFO is completely fake, as is everything on inothernewz.com.
http://inothernewz.com/about-us/
It's amazing how many news sites got trolled by that site. 7/4/2013 10:35:34 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
^^Brazilian UFO Caused By Drone; Unmanned Aircraft Causing Rise In UFO Sightings (VIDEO) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/ufo-over-brazil-protest-2013-drone_n_3474842.html
Took me 10 seconds. 7/5/2013 5:36:40 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i knew there would be a logical explanation... just didn't bother searching. 7/6/2013 3:02:51 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.google.com/ 7/8/2013 11:25:11 AM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
This page reminded me of two recent comics.
Quote : | "About time travelers, maybe none have come to this point in time because there is no allure?" |
And to the topic at hand:
[Edited on July 9, 2013 at 2:45 PM. Reason : ]7/9/2013 2:45:31 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/alien-life-found-above-derbyshire-proves-were-descended-from-extraterrestrials-say-scientists-9782153.html
http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2014/10/03/police-investigate-after-ufo-spotted-over-breckenridge/16652997/ 10/10/2014 9:44:49 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Told y'all they exist!!!
See this video showing one!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3183762/Plane-passenger-captures-moment-UFO-overtakes-Virgin-Atlantic-plane-New-York-JFK-Airport.html 8/3/2015 3:01:29 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
just read about dyatlov pass this morning - likely not but could have been 8/3/2015 3:32:06 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
When do you think disclosure will finally take place? I'm thinking that a "shocking discovery" of an alien city on Ceres will be the watershed moment, and that moment is imminent.
After that they will slowly reveal the anti grav tech, free energy engine, and the secret US Space Navy (maybe marines?)
Its an exciting time to be alive! 8/3/2015 7:50:55 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
8/3/2015 7:51:43 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
8/3/2015 8:59:06 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
8/3/2015 9:14:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
if its on a british tabloid website, it must be legit
[Edited on August 4, 2015 at 12:33 AM. Reason : in 2015 that guy has a flip phone quality camera...seems legit] 8/4/2015 12:32:36 AM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
The Dyatlov Pass incident is super interesting and compelling . . . until you realize that every "expose" regarding it completely avoids talking about all the evidence that points to an avalanche being the potential cause. 8/5/2015 10:30:08 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
OMG A SPACE SHIP BALANCING ON THE TIP OF THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT
8/5/2015 6:29:54 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
What would you guys say is the most compelling case? Rendlesham? Roswell? My favorite is Ruwa school children incident. All those kids report same basic thing? Im thinking this one has legs.
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/case127.htm 8/6/2015 9:12:33 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
statistically there kind of has to be aliens...
but the UFOs in these videos could be simply failed satellite launches... or not failed ones etc. 8/6/2015 9:28:23 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
This guy walked on the moon, surely we can take his word, right?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3195416/Aliens-tried-save-America-nuclear-war-UFOs-shot-missiles-White-Sands-protect-Earth-claims-former-astronaut.html
I told y'all they exist! 8/13/2015 10:38:55 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
I too had high hopes that maybe Edgar was a for real, awesome witness. But #1, he's never seen an alien or UFO himself and going on hearsay, AND
He's into a bunch of other wacky shit like telekenisis and shit. I think he's just a little off his rocker, and probs a bit senile.
OR AM I A GOVERNMENT AGENT SPREADING DISINFORMATION??? WOULD I TELL YOU IF I WAS?
Maybe I would tell you that, to make you think i'm not, but i really am......
[Edited on August 14, 2015 at 9:09 AM. Reason : But seriously, I am dying to believe aliens visit our planet.... but I'm starting to lose belief ] 8/14/2015 9:08:20 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Alien corpse found in Russia
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3219351/Has-alien-corpse-Russia-Scientists-baffled-discovery-tiny-creature-mysterious-skull-no-neck-wings-near-nuclear-power-plant.html
Quote : | "Creature with distended skull and talon-like feet 'found by a Russian river' Russian researchers are said to be struggling to identify what species it is Scientist: 'It is neither fish nor fowl – it has a mysterious skull and no neck' Alien hunter: 'This tiny alien has no resemblance to any animal known'" |
Click on link for video with more views.
[Edited on September 3, 2015 at 12:04 AM. Reason : ]9/3/2015 12:01:33 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
The hell is this???
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3704560/Incoming-Airport-workers-disbelief-UFO-trailing-blue-smoke-flies-runway.html
Somebody embed the video; it is surreal and beautiful!
Rocket launch, I suppose? If so, do they always look like that after launch? If so, there would be a video like this after every launch. Or did this particular one encounter some debris?
[Edited on July 25, 2016 at 8:14 AM. Reason : ] 7/25/2016 8:12:33 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Space Seed.
(actually it's the plume from a rocket launch at high altitude...) 7/25/2016 12:21:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
^^OMG that is amazing. I can't believe the guy is actually filming the video in landscape mode 7/25/2016 2:15:40 PM |