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""We noticed a bookbag was missing in Classroom C. Go back to the records and see who was in Classroom C between 2pm and 3pm" "We noticed someone hiding in the janitor's closet, it's John Anderson from Classroom H." [Alarm sounds] "A student named Blake Stone from Classroom E entered into a restricted area. Please intercept." [Alarm sounds] "A student named Harold Mack from Classroom B just left the building. Please intercept." Why would you have to analyze every second?"

Actually all of those sound like positive uses of RFID technology that would just aid the enforcement of existing rules in school, not add additional constraints.

I like how you make it sound a lot scarier by adding [alarm sounds] and phrases like 'restricted area'. You should have gone all the way and replaced the student names with "STUDENT NUMBER FIVE SEVEN TWO TWO ZERO ONE". You'd be a decent propaganda minister if you weren't so fucking dumb.

11/29/2012 9:49:19 AM

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"I like how you make it sound a lot scarier by adding [alarm sounds] and phrases like 'restricted area'. "

Oh, you're scared of words, but not scared of the actual events. I see...

11/29/2012 10:22:49 AM

How would an RFID tell you that a student was hiding in a janitor's closet?

This is RFID, not GPS. Does anyone else care about these giant gaping plot holes?

11/29/2012 10:27:05 AM

RFID can be used like that in a building, it just wouldn't be because they wouldn't spend the money to do it.

11/29/2012 10:31:11 AM

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"RFID can be used like that in a building, it just wouldn't be because they wouldn't spend the money to do it."

You base your conclusion on whose spending habits?

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"This is a public school, there is no freedom. You can't go to the restroom if you want and the teacher says no, you can't bring Advil with you, etc There are far worse things about public schools than tracking their students"

The fact that you accept that you have no freedom and then rationalize it with "it could be worse" is frightening. Your appeasement tells the government they're allowed to take more and more of your liberty as long as you can think of something worse.

11/29/2012 10:32:23 AM

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"Oh, you're scared of words, but not scared of the actual events. I see..."

If the events were actually that scary, you wouldn't bother to try and scary-it-up with those phrases.

Let's review the scary events:

-A bookbag goes missing and teachers try to get ahold of students who were in the room when it went missing

-A student gets caught skipping class and gets in trouble for it

-A student sneaks into the boiler room and gets in trouble for it

-A student tries to leave school and play hookie and gets caught

11/29/2012 10:36:52 AM

You know, they forced students to go to class in Nazi Germany too

11/29/2012 10:37:28 AM

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"If the events were actually that scary, you wouldn't bother to try and scary-it-up with those phrases."

I don't know where you are, but where I'm from they have policemen that patrol and handle security for the school that use terms and phrases like that.

11/29/2012 10:38:41 AM

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"How would an RFID tell you that a student was hiding in a janitor's closet?"

Rundown on RFID (From someone who's used it in robotics related stuff)

-The maximum range an RFID tag has without a battery is about 2 meters.

-The most common use of RFID tag is in those cards you use in hotels (Not the magnetic ones, the touch ones)

-For location-tracking, typically RFID tag readers are placed in doorways or other choke points.

So yeah, you can easily set up a system where you know when a student enters the janitor's closet, or leaves the building. But as soon as he leaves the building, good luck finding him unless you've placed a 2mx2m grid of RFID readers across the entire county.

11/29/2012 10:42:16 AM

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"good luck finding him unless you've placed a 2mx2m grid of RFID readers across the entire county."

Don't schools have cameras in place? I mean...

11/29/2012 10:44:32 AM

So you went to school in a Robocop movie, got it.

No, seriously, what's scary about kids getting in trouble for stealing a bookbag, hiding in the janitor's closet, sneaking into the boiler room, or trying to leave the school in the middle of the day?

I'm seriously trying to understand how you think a school is supposed to function if there are no rules requiring you to do things like, oh I don't know, be in class.

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 10:50 AM. Reason : .]

11/29/2012 10:46:16 AM

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"Don't schools have cameras in place? I mean..."

Right, all over the county.

11/29/2012 10:46:54 AM

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"Right, all over the county. "

They have police all over the county.
Schools have contact with the police now.
They radio it in.
They know how fast people can travel on foot.
They know where he lives.

Not many places he can go except to a friend's house.
Any kid with a backpack or person who looks young would be a suspect.

11/29/2012 10:56:23 AM

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"I'm seriously trying to understand how you think a school is supposed to function if there are no rules requiring you to do things like, oh I don't know, be in class. "

What is freedom? How does it work? Freedom is the new magnets.

11/29/2012 10:58:47 AM

In a dark, dystopian future, children who skip school are chased down by the police using super advanced radio technology and forced back into classrooms. Check out this video of just what it may look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn9_FMRvo_o

11/29/2012 11:00:22 AM

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"What is freedom? How does it work? Freedom is the new magnets."

So you're anti-compulsory schooling for children? You're anti-rules being enforced? Cut to the chase man, what exactly bothers you so much about children in a school building being forced to attend classes instead of just doing whatever the fuck they want?

11/29/2012 11:03:10 AM

11/29/2012 11:06:12 AM

Answer my question don't fucking post youtube videos.

11/29/2012 11:10:56 AM

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"what exactly bothers you so much about children in a school building being forced to attend classes instead of just doing whatever the fuck they want? "

Know Force. No Freedom.
No Force, Know Freedom.

11/29/2012 11:16:54 AM

Just. Answer. The. Questions.

11/29/2012 11:18:35 AM

All you're communicating by resorting to youtube videos and catchphrases is that you're uncomfortable with this conversation so you're trying to approach it in as impersonal and detached a way as possible.

11/29/2012 11:19:33 AM

I mean, the answer is right there

11/29/2012 11:21:59 AM

Use your own words. You could have done so 10 minutes ago but you keep being evasive and thus prolonging this.

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .]

11/29/2012 11:22:56 AM

Those are my own words.

11/29/2012 11:23:32 AM

Tell me in a your own words what your problem is with RFID tags being used to help school administrators enforce the rules (No stealing, no skipping class, no playing hooky). If your problem is the rules themselves, explain why. Use complete sentences like an adult who is literate. If you can string them together into a whole paragraph that's bonus points.

11/29/2012 11:27:57 AM

I'm starting to wonder if you hate school so much because the teachers kept telling you that you couldn't draw pictures for your English tests.

11/29/2012 11:28:39 AM

I can't possibly break it down for you any more. Freedom.

Freedom.

Freedom.

Want me to sing it to you??

FReeeeeeeeeHEHEEEEEEeeeeeee0----- oohhheeeeeaaaaDooooooooomm.

11/29/2012 11:31:56 AM

School administrators being able to easily locate students and track attendance is bad because ________{insert answer here}________.

11/29/2012 11:33:17 AM

Yes, that, fill in those blanks GXB.

11/29/2012 11:38:31 AM

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"School administrators being able to easily locate students and track attendance is bad because ________{insert answer here}________."

We are taking EASY out of the equation.

More like "no contest", "lockdown"......................................... "prison"

Mandatory school is forced indoctrination of federally controlled material.

Any wavering from school itinerary and the teacher is out of a job.

You live and condone a world that is turning your children into slaves of a system.

11/29/2012 11:40:55 AM

Are you the product of a public school? Is the system making you say these things? It's the system isn't it?

11/29/2012 11:42:38 AM

Why can't you just fill in those blanks THEN type out more stuff?

11/29/2012 11:46:40 AM

Because freedom.

11/29/2012 11:47:40 AM

[hoards of ron paul fans cheer]

11/29/2012 11:48:06 AM

Did anyone else understand how his response answered my question? I didn't.

11/29/2012 11:52:26 AM

I think what he's trying to say is that he's against compulsory schooling for children and so anything that makes it easier for schools to function is bad.

11/29/2012 11:54:54 AM

I'm not answering your question because it's a load question.


Does your mom know your gay? Yes or No?

Don't post anything else except the answer to the question.

11/29/2012 11:59:50 AM

^^Thanks

So then to him I would respond with

"Okay, so you think compulsory school is indoctrination, that's fine if you have that opinion. So in this compulsory school of government slave indoctrination, why is it bad to use RFID? Is using a badge to check attendance somehow different than using teacher's attendance rolls? Why?"

11/29/2012 12:01:00 PM

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"know your gay"

Mandatory schooling is bad.

11/29/2012 12:01:09 PM

Oh look a preplanned response for anything I am going to say couldn't have called that one.

11/29/2012 12:02:36 PM

What's loaded about it?

A loaded question is a question which contains a controversial or unjustified assumption

What is the assumption in the question "School administrators being able to easily locate students and track attendance is bad because" ?

edit: Alternatively, tell me if I'm correct

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"I think what he's trying to say is that he's against compulsory schooling for children and so anything that makes it easier for schools to function is bad."

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2012 12:03:41 PM

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""Okay, so you think compulsory school is indoctrination, that's fine if you have that opinion. So in this compulsory school of government slave indoctrination, why is it bad to use RFID? Is using a badge to check attendance somehow different than using teacher's attendance rolls? Why?""

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 12:04 PM. Reason : look, I took out any assumed loadedness by accepting and using your position]

11/29/2012 12:03:52 PM

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"Okay, so you think compulsory school is indoctrination, that's fine if you have that opinion. So in this compulsory school of government slave indoctrination, why is it bad to use RFID? Is using a badge to check attendance somehow different than using teacher's attendance rolls? Why?"""

I want to see if you can answer the question yourself: If it's not different, then why are they doing it?

11/29/2012 12:06:53 PM

I assume because it makes it easier and more efficient (and possible more accurate) and allows some of the process to be automated.

Why do you think?

11/29/2012 12:11:13 PM

I think what he's trying to say is that he's against compulsory schooling for children and so anything that makes it easier for schools to function is bad.

11/29/2012 12:13:01 PM

If they had had RFID tags when GXB was a child, he wouldn't have been able to skip English class every day, and he'd be here today posting in full sentences with correct grammar and spelling like the rest of us sheeple.

11/29/2012 12:14:31 PM

What I'm trying to say is this:


You're heading down a dangerous path to slavery.
100% control over your thoughts, your body, and whereabouts.
I stand here before you today and the idea of freedom is elusive to the minds of NCSU graduates.

11/29/2012 12:17:34 PM

What I am saying is this

In this path to slavery, why is it bad to use RFID? Is using a badge to check attendance somehow different than using teacher's attendance rolls? Why?

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 12:20 PM. Reason : do you think RFID can be used for mind/thought control?]

11/29/2012 12:20:28 PM

^^ where did you graduate from college?

11/29/2012 12:22:04 PM

GXB, are you or are you not opposed to compulsory schooling for children?

11/29/2012 12:22:37 PM