the 109c is an amazing plane. I don't know if it's my piloting that helps me edge my opponents, but I'm doing pretty well dancing 1 on 1 with p-40's and p-51a... I mean. s eriously. a t6 getting taken out by a t4? wtf!

10/19/2012 1:47:01 AM

I think the developers should offer a price to keep what you already have once it rolls over. Basically say $10 or maybe even $20 to keep your current lineup of aircraft when closed beta ends. With the time I have sunk into them already and to start off with mid-range aircraft already, I would be down with that. Maybe even if they charged like $3/plane or something. They could start off getting some good cash, and not having everybody restart in BS level I-II aircraft.

10/19/2012 7:52:18 AM

I am just about done upgrading my 109e all the way. Just have to get that 20mm hub gun iirc.

10/19/2012 3:50:33 PM

Elited out... now just 33k xp to go for the 109G.

109e sucks. so bad.

[Edited on October 19, 2012 at 5:54 PM. Reason : .]

10/19/2012 5:28:44 PM

What's so bad about the 109e? I've got it coming soon, so I'm just trying to prepare myself. How is everyone using their victory gold? I was originally dumping it into free xp and premium, but now I think I'm going to save for a premium aircraft to get a good credit farmer - thoughts?

10/19/2012 11:19:48 PM

I'm saving it for the 2,247 gold aircobra, which is almost a 109e with a lot more firepower.

the 109e has a faster top speed and a more powerful engine, which means you can outclimb a lot of other airplanes. This does NOT mean you can do a 360* vertical loop around your enemy faster than them; this airplane isn't anywhere near as nimble as the 109c. If you go for the original airframe, you can have a firepower powerhouse, dishing out ungodly amount of damage. The downside is you sacrifice a LOT of maneuverability; good luck trying to shake any enemy if they get behind you. You have a chance of shaking opponents that are tailing you if you go with the upgraded airframe and opt for speed/agility, but you end up taking a pretty big hit in the firepower department compared to the 109c.

So recap;
Original airframe: Huge firepower increase, Huge agility decrease
Newer airframe: Huge firepower decrease, slight agility decrease, huge top speed increase for intercepting and climbing.

I hear that the 109g balances the plane back out pretty well.


A tip for the 109e if someone is on your tail is air brake the heck out of someone. It's a heavy plane, so use the drag to your advantage.

You can also try to stall out some of the American planes as they can't hang in a straight vertical as long as you. Just make sure your airspeed is up because if you stall out before they do, you're toast. Once they stall out or level off, the tables are turned and predator becomes prey.

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10/20/2012 12:45:51 AM

took 6 tries. but I finally out maneuvered this p-40 pilot who was on my tail for about 5 minutes doing the stall method, and he had damaged my engine early on. I only lost ~25hp through the ordeal. takes a lot of patience to turn the 109e around. After the slew of repeated Dives to ~425 mph and then straight verticals until 100mph, I finally got him in a position where I could turn the dog fight around on him. didn't take long to shoot him down at that point.







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10/20/2012 1:18:07 AM

You know, as much as I rag on the 109e, I've gotten used to it more and more and overall, compared to the US and USSR T5 attack planes, it's not bad. You can out climb and stall out the US planes, and just plain outrun the Russians. The damage dealt from the guns is something to be desired, but 1 hub 20mm and 2 synch. 7.62mm aren't bad at all so long as your make your shots count. It feels anemic vs the 109c, but really you have to fly this one differently. Check your radar and map often, position yourself to set yourself up to go where you want. This is a skill that will make or break you if/when you get to the higher tiers and start flying the jet propulsion aircraft, IMO.

Earnings are with a standard account:

109g researched, I just need 400k more credits to buy it.

1400 gold in the bank, just 847 more to the aircobra.





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10/20/2012 4:13:58 AM

I love my Bf 110B so hard.

10/22/2012 12:06:23 AM

109g is a decent plane. Ditch the outboard armaments though; they'll restrict your plane's agility, turning it from a fighter to a heavy fighter. It is definitely a hit and run type plane, with some ability to dogfight distracted opponents and vulnerable bombers/heavy fighters. IMO, it does well enough without needing the outboard guns/bombs.

The Lagg-3 is the same thing. It's a hit and run type plane. it's tempting to try to dogfight other planes, but the 109g an the lagg-3, you've got to tell yourself to just run. use the top speed to your advantage for both planes. The lagg-3 turns and climbs more slowly than the 109c counterpart, however, it also has substantially more firepower. one strafe run can take out an enemy fighter (and bomber if your aim is consistent and manage to take out a wing or engine) with ease.

So, if you plan on using the lagg-3, upgrade the second air frame, get the biggest engine, and stick with the 23mm hub and twin 12.7mm synch. That's been the best luck i've had with it... You'll outrun everything (afaik) except a fully upgraded 109e; a tier higher, but you might encounter one nonetheless.

Also, I'll be getting the aircobra in about 4.5 hours when I get home. I'll post up and let you guys know if it's worth the 2,247 gold or not.... I'm hoping it's a decent credit grinder.


[Edited on October 23, 2012 at 2:56 AM. Reason : .]

10/23/2012 2:51:58 AM

omg. Aircobra is a beast at dogfighting. Totally worth it.

10/23/2012 7:46:16 PM

new patch didn't mess anything up...

Getting multi kills in the aircobra in my sleep. Thing is a dogfighting beast. That 37mm is just death. 1 second burst into an IL2, destroyed a wing/engine, it went down. Half second burst head on into a P-51 Late model, BOOM. This thing just won't stop eating planes up!

10/25/2012 7:24:34 PM

Has anyone figured out the scoring system for ramming out planes? Sometimes I get credit for the kill, sometimes the other guy does.

10/26/2012 1:16:50 AM

Damage based afaik. If you do damage to your target and ram them, you'll get credit for the kill when they die. I don't think there's a time limit on this as I've been shot up pretty bad, fly around for 3 or 4 minutes, accidentally stall out smashing into the ground (always because of a damaged wing ) and it says "______ has killed you."

So. if you are gonna ram and die, at least light them up some If you both damage each other, and you both collide and die, you both get each other's kill.

I've probably rammed 10 bombers from the rear, killing them, but still living. It's pretty epic when that happens. lol.


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10/26/2012 2:14:44 AM

La-5 is fucking epic. I can hit ground targets and still combat other planes in the air. Much better dogfighter and feels more powerful than the p-39 aircobra... I love it. With that said, p-39 is an awesome plane, a fully customized La-5 is just better.

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10/29/2012 7:59:30 AM

Yeeeaaahhh....

I just had a 6 on 1 match in the la-5. All of my teammates dies, leaving me with 6 bogies to contend with. I focused on one thing and one thing only; Make sure no one had a shot on me. I did this the best I could, but I'd take a pot shot here or there. I maneuvered, not going after anyone in particular, but just shooting at whoever was in front of me. 1 went down. then 2. Then 3. I had 2 bombers and a Heavy fighter on me left. I retreated home as bomber turret fire was starting to damage me and I figured the 2 remaining aa's would help. I didn't quite make it back to base, though i did outrun them, so I did a split-s and took out a bomber head on, flanked another, took him out. just me and the heavy fighter. I'm at about 10% though, so i retreat home. i turn around, thinking, "surely this guy is over my aa by now" (he wasn't) and find me and him going heads up. I knock him down to 3% before he kills me.

I scored 7 total kills that round, 5 of them when I was all alone. Fortunately, by killing them, their domination clock would fall back substantially, enough to keep the game going. I can't believe I lost that one, especially after having lived so long and done so much. I should have played the maneuver game, but I didn't want to risk it being shot down without having a chance to shoot back. I figured all or nothing, i could try heads up, and i bit the bullet.

tl;dr - LA-5 is the shit. New favorite.

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10/29/2012 11:22:37 AM

hey fuckholes. i asked how this shit compares to IL2 Sturmovik and nobody said shit. what is wrong with you?

11/4/2012 3:05:50 AM

late war russian planes were way better than everybody. dunno if that is reflected in this game. late war secret tech quality award goes to the brits.

german success early war was mostly aircrew skill not the aircraft. i imagine maintenance was a very large factor on this perpetually experimental wartime machines. probably not reflected in the game. WoT at least had an engine fire percentage, lol.

11/4/2012 3:17:04 AM

Re: flaps

I don't know how realistic this game is, but flaps are very useful in a 1-circle fight or scissors (google them). Those situations require the tightest possible turn radius and slowest downrange travel, respectively. In a 2-circle fight, turn radius is not important; you want to be at the corner speed for your aircraft. That one is a turn rate contest.

11/4/2012 8:48:35 AM

^ Awesome. Thanks duke!

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11/4/2012 12:57:14 PM

Did anyone ever play the old Airwarrior online games?

If so how does this compare? The planes in that game were fairly well designed, and handled pretty accuratly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Warrior

I know in air warriror you had basically 2 types of aircarft, turners(spitfire) and zoom and boom (p51).

You basically would want to fly at high altitude (this was especially useful on aircarft with good high altitude performance like the p51). And just do a 1 off attack on another plane then climb back up to altitude before they can respond. It helped that damage was realistic...one good run and you would shoot somebody down.



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11/5/2012 11:06:46 AM

Just got a Closed Beta invite. Installing now. Pretty excited.

11/9/2012 8:02:51 AM

Open Beta just started.

I think anyone can log in and give it a try.

The learning curve is a little steeper than WoT.

7/4/2013 9:10:46 AM

get ready to DIE MOTHERFUCKERS! in WoT I'm in the Asia Server but for this shit, Imma be right up in you. (at least till they open a asia server) now i played IL-2 for like years and Redbaron 3D for years b4 that. it's gonna be your ASS!!! do you believe me?

anybody want to clan? i think i will be actually be able to get tolerable ping like around 100ms even tho i China.

10/11/2013 4:58:30 PM

100ms can be the difference between killing and getting killed.

I'd like to dogfight ya. I'm far from the best, but I give a lot of people a run for their money.

<50ms or bust

I'm a pretty decent pilot. I averaged a 75% win ratio in the closed beta. I think I'll start playing open beta so I can score that limited edition premium plane, though I don't know anything about how good it is.

I need another SSD. I wish Black Friday would get here soooooon.



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10/11/2013 8:20:06 PM

Yea, just updated to the open beta and played a few rounds. Little rusty, but not bad.

10/12/2013 7:32:21 PM

War Thunder (freemium like Warplanes) is on Steam is a much better game in my opinion,

10/12/2013 7:42:42 PM

Aye I've thought about going that route. I like the architecture of War Thunder, but as much time as I've already invested in the WoT and with WoWP being "linked", I may stick with this.

Will planes be able to interact with the tanks below? or are there seperate battefields for aerial and ground combats

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10/12/2013 8:25:50 PM

There is no tank part of War Thunder

10/12/2013 8:37:03 PM

then what's with the tank trees?

10/12/2013 8:44:24 PM

I have no idea what you're talking about




Just looked, well I'll be damned, they're adding tanks

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10/12/2013 9:21:10 PM

its gonna be a open world war betw warwhatever and steamer

also, my WoWP DL died and i lazy to try again. ill be in there in a few days. my name is feigninterest

10/13/2013 4:56:49 AM

Downloaded the update and went to play some, but W7 spontaneously decided to ignore my joystick and I can't get it to pick it back up. Granted, it's an old MS Sidewinder, but I did have it working in the past on W7 for a while. Oh well, looks like I'm due for a new one at some point.

10/13/2013 11:15:28 AM

^Hey have you got a Sidewinder Precision 2 by chance? Mine did the same thing, and after some research I found out what the issue is. Apparently MS joysticks (esp. with a metal base) are bad about getting a static charge buildup in the stick, which will cause the joystick to just not work. Easiest way to fix it is just to unplug the joystick and let it sit for a couple hours.

When I got the update done, my Precision 2 did this. I had left it plugged in to my USB port for months and had not played it. After a couple hours, I plugged it in and away I went.

I have upgraded all planes in the tech tree to Level III for all nationalities, so the only II planes are the elite planes that are holdovers from my Closed Beta time. Still definitely enjoying the game right now. Was real rusty for a bit, but last few games last night I really kicked some ass. Final round I got shot down to 5 health, and then proceeded to down 4 bogeys and win the round.

10/14/2013 9:54:07 AM

Just got back into it!

12/11/2013 3:58:38 AM

And I'm sucking REALLY bad.

When I was in closed beta, I was closer to 65% win rate with over 1,000 games played. I've got like 200 games played and i'm back at like a 53% win rate. The n00b teams I'm with in these pub matches are just infuriating Like in one match, there were 4 Tier 3's chasing down a Tier 5 bomber who was clearly outrunning them all. Meanwhile, 1 tier 3 bomber was in our base blowing everything up. I watched as the score went from 17-10 to 17-27. We lost by attrition.



[Edited on December 12, 2013 at 8:07 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2013 8:07:24 PM

Maybe i"m not cut out for the japanese line.

I was doing really well on the german line before... Just thought of this.

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12/12/2013 10:19:21 PM

Fixed my problem(s)

Decided to play my Japanese planes differently and my oh my, they are pretty epic.

I started rocking the German line...







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12/13/2013 9:18:06 AM

Last post until someone else posts in this thread. I promise I totally carried this team... I've learned to stay down low where the A6M2's performance is unmatched by anyone else. Hang back, hide behind terrain. After all the enemies engage allies, move in and attack from below. The 20mm cannons rip apart enemies like a hot knife in butter. AP on the cannons, Incinerary for the 7.62





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12/13/2013 9:54:40 AM

http://www.warthunder.com

8/12/2014 11:34:02 PM

If only they made something like this for PS

8/13/2014 12:08:34 AM

war thunder is available for the ps4.

8/13/2014 11:23:05 PM

Wish I had more time to play this. haven't touched it in a long time. The grind at tier 5 and tier 6 made me dislike it

11/24/2014 4:10:01 AM