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Kurtis636
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I prefer that my ladies do an X with electrical tape.

2/14/2013 7:16:27 PM

1337 b4k4
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So since I'm not a native, can someone explain to me what it is about NC Republicans that seem to make them act like whiney petulant children whenever they get into power? Is it years of repressed rage or just an inability to see as far in the future as the next election and realize that stupid stuff like this ensures they get voted out?

2/14/2013 8:11:39 PM

markgoal
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One year old creative districting ensures they won't be voted out. Dems don't have a realistic shot at power until the next gubernatorial election, IF they can find a credible candidate.

2/14/2013 8:20:59 PM

darkone
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Apparently this bill was sent back to committee to make sure that offenders won't be classified as sex offenders. I still think I'm happier when I see more boobies and not less.

2/15/2013 4:28:26 PM

Igor
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I see a "pasties only" parade coming up somewhere in the Triangle are in the near future. The whole thing about public display of female nipples being indecent while male nipples are perfectly fine is the reflection of the puritan-derived culture we live in. Totally makes GOP looks hypocritical, lashing out against government regulation on issues that have real impact on society, and then regulating something statewide that should be decided on local, if not personal, level. 5 month minimum sentence for a nip slip? WTF

2/15/2013 5:14:09 PM

Supplanter
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Quote :
"can someone explain to me what it is about NC Republicans that seem to make them act like whiney petulant children whenever they get into power?"


They never really hid that they were social conservatives intent on regulating as such if so empowered.

2/15/2013 7:14:12 PM

Roflpack
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1- Nighthawk makes good points.
2- No one wants to see that, stop being stupid.

2/18/2013 10:31:02 PM

BanjoMan
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I dont understand why people don't realize that these moral value attacks are fascisits principles.

There is actually a good bit in common between republicans and fascists that people don't seem to consider because you can't say fascists without bringing up Hitler. But, in terms of the principles behind fascism, there are a lot of similarities.

2/18/2013 11:25:55 PM

y0willy0
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Telling someone to put their tits up does not make you a fascist.

Maybe if morons like you didn't overuse such terms they would actually still mean something.

That being said... I love tits and want to see as many as possible every day. Fuck this mess!

2/19/2013 12:22:53 AM

OopsPowSrprs
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Wait, this shit is a felony?? Christ almighty.

2/19/2013 12:30:03 AM

GoldieO
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Two things.

1) ^ no it is not a felony. read the statute below, there are two different sections, section (a) applies to indecent exposure related to these Asheville type rallies and classifies a violation as a Class 2 misdemeanor

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/House/HTML/H34v1.html

2) This whole idea originated with the Asheville City Council, not known as a bastion of right wing conservatism

http://www.mountainx.com/article/45121/Asheville-City-Council-encourages-people-to-avoid-topless-rally

This is not intended as a defense of the underlying bill, only an attempt to clear up misinformation.

2/19/2013 7:19:58 AM

mrfrog

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^, ^^ it is a felony according to the bill if your private part is shown to someone 16 or under in some kind of sexual sense. That is in wording.

2/19/2013 8:11:27 AM

GoldieO
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You're conflating the two independent sections, they are two different "crimes." If charged and found guilty of violating Section (a) you will be sentenced according to Class 2 misdemeanor guidelines. If charged and found guilty of violating Section (a1) you will be sentenced according to Class H felony guidelines.

This is not a new law, this is only a revision of the current "Indecent Exposure" statute - the revision being the addition of "nipples" as a sexual organ. No legislator has gone on record or otherwise and declared the intent of this revision is to make felons of those attending topless rallies.

2/19/2013 8:24:25 AM

mrfrog

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"No legislator has gone on record or otherwise and declared the intent of this revision is to make felons of those attending topless rallies."


But from what you say, I gather this is one of the things it did.

Given that the prior wording had the stuff about a felony but not about a nipple, you couldn't be taken to be showing your boob for the purpose of sexual gratification, because it didn't count as a private part.

Now you can be a felon for showing boobage in a sexual way when a minor is somewhere around you. Well, not you. Women can.

2/19/2013 9:25:46 AM

GoldieO
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Actually, no. You gather wrong, sir.

Please take the time to read the statute for yourself and study the language before making further assertions. Section (a1) cannot be used against anyone simply participating in a topless rally. Section (a1) covers activities above and beyond a topless rally or drunk guy who takes his pants off and walks down the street. Note the statutory cross-reference to 14-202.1 in section (a1).

Again, this is not about defending the underlying revision to the bill, but about clarifying the misunderstandings being perpetuated about said bill.

2/19/2013 9:43:40 AM

mrfrog

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You say I'm wrong...

But it still follows that with the bill, boobage is now fair game for felony charges. Yes, the current change redefined what body parts can be considered privates. That has bearing on the misdemeanor and felony parts. Everything you are saying is confirming, and not refuting, this.

[Edited on February 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM. Reason : ]

2/19/2013 9:55:00 AM

Supplanter
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http://www.wral.com/bill-aims-to-cover-up-topless-rallies/12049495/

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"Rather, she said, it was aimed at events like an annual topless rally in Asheville"


- Rep. Rayne Brown, R-Davidson

2/19/2013 10:36:40 AM

mrfrog

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I'm not arguing what it was aimed for. I'm speaking about what the bill does and for some reason people think it's okay to directly contradict that, even though it's correct.

2/19/2013 10:38:22 AM

Kurtis636
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Yes, because we all know that local DAs would never, ever bring charges that aren't warranted based on a too vague statute or given the opportunity to overcharge.

2/19/2013 10:55:45 AM

gunzz
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we need a Tdubber in politics.

i would like to sponsor the FDT Act of 2013

2/19/2013 11:07:22 AM

theDuke866
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These anti-gay Republicans are gay as fuck.

Duke 2024

2/19/2013 11:26:16 AM

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