^ it appears that is the case, but when most people say "antifreeze" they mean automotive, which is ethylene glycol.

4/9/2013 11:11:37 PM

restating, stupid bottom of the page

Quote :

"If they ban e cigs then they need to ban smelly perfume and lotions and farting and bad breath."

and Bradford Pear Trees
and sometimes I don't like the way other people's food smells, so I think they should not eat their smelly sausage dogs and meatball subs and hot dogs near me at the Canes games
and kids stink, ban diaper wearing kids in public
and sometimes old people stink
and they should make it illegal to go without showering more than 2 days and illegal to not wear deodorant

4/9/2013 11:12:58 PM

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"^What could his co-worker have been doing instead? I'm so curious now. Also, whatever it is, I think I might want to start doing it. "

No idea, but this is the first I've heard of e-cig smell sticking to anything. I think the more likely scenario is that this person smokes some stanky stuff, uses incense/sprays to cover up the real smell, and then puffs e-cigs when people are looking to give them something to blame the lingering mix of smells on.

I hope I didn't just out someone. Maybe it's just the difference between the light users I've been around who are trying to quit smoking vs the person who is "chain smoking" their e-cig.

[Edited on April 9, 2013 at 11:19 PM. Reason : l]

4/9/2013 11:13:51 PM

^^^No, it doesn't appear to be the case, it is the case.


[Edited on April 9, 2013 at 11:17 PM. Reason : ..]

4/9/2013 11:15:38 PM

Quote :

" ^ it appears that is the case, but when most people say "antifreeze" they mean automotive, which is ethylene glycol. "

I did mean car antifreeze, but it seems I was mislead. I honestly thought it was found in that, too, it just wasnt the deadly compound in it.

As mentioned, im not certain..just read a bit about its safety before trying it out. Been smoke free for a year and a half as a result of an ecig. (Pack a day for 10 years prior to that)

It may not be 100% safe for me, but it cant be any worse than cancer sticks!


[Edited on April 9, 2013 at 11:23 PM. Reason : a]

4/9/2013 11:20:32 PM

As I have said before in every other one of these threads... the solution is to ban homo sapiens: without them, it wouldn't be a homo sapien problem. Let the chimps and gorillas sort it out.

4/9/2013 11:40:24 PM

Im a smoker who supports banning cigs in bars and restaurants.

But this is fuckin stupid

4/9/2013 11:44:47 PM

damn. Elise be blowin up this thread.

4/10/2013 12:18:53 AM

My point is you can't ban shit just because other people don't want to smell it. Prove to me that it is more toxic than some smelly bath and body works shit or the latest celebrity's perfume line. Lots of smells make me gag and cough and give me a headache, but that's my problem.

4/10/2013 12:35:29 AM

id rather ban drunken morons period

4/10/2013 12:36:23 AM

We're on the same page elise.

^ +1

4/10/2013 12:39:18 AM

it's possible to adjust the formulas on these so that they don't create noticeable vapor/smell. I recently vaped on a redeye with no problems, probably because i did a low-vapor/odor formula

4/10/2013 8:28:03 AM

^Im pretty sure they're illegal for use during commercial flight. At least according to a flight attendant who stopped a guy on he last flight i was on.

4/10/2013 10:44:28 AM

^ considerate people don't "vape" in confined spaces with non-vapers...same goes for perfume and farting

4/10/2013 10:52:00 AM

There's that, too

4/10/2013 11:23:59 AM

They need to ban the stores in the mall like Abercrombie, Hollister etc from pumping cologne out of the air vents. Instant headache whenever I walk by.

4/10/2013 12:16:29 PM

I've seen more and more of these, inside and out. This past weekend, I had a few people over to my place for a cookout. Guests were free to invite a friend. Anyway, a guy showed up that I didn't know very well.... Somewhat douchy.... And he was smoking an e-cig at one point. Can't say I smelled anything.

9/5/2013 6:47:24 PM

Story on NPR today about increasing e-cig use among teenagers. I realize that these aren't illegal for minors, but why the hell would a kid use these things? Smoking is bad, but at least it looks cool. E-cigs make you look like a fucking moron.

9/5/2013 6:58:09 PM

So I dont vape or know much about it at all, but from my short amount of googling, blucigs at least do not have any propylene glycol....

supposedly only: Distilled Water, Nicotine (when applicable), FCC Grade Vegetable Glycerin, Natural Flavors, Artificial Flavors, Citric Acid

but how much difference is there between propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin is the question

9/5/2013 7:04:19 PM

Quote :

"Smoking is bad, but at least it looks cool. E-cigs make you look like a fucking moron."

I thought "smoking is cool!" was a dead sentiment. If it's not, it really should be dead by now.

9/5/2013 7:11:06 PM

Nope. Still cool. You want proof?

9/5/2013 7:29:37 PM

^^ I didn't say it's cool, I said it looks cool.

And it does:

9/5/2013 8:00:46 PM

Quote :

" So I dont vape or know much about it at all, but from my short amount of googling, blucigs at least do not have any propylene glycol.... supposedly only: Distilled Water, Nicotine (when applicable), FCC Grade Vegetable Glycerin, Natural Flavors, Artificial Flavors, Citric Acid but how much difference is there between propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin is the question 9/5/2013 7:04:19 PM "

Pretty much anywhere you buy ecig liquid you can buy both PG and VG based liquid. There are positives and negatives about both. Most people use PG as a result.

Blu is a ripoff and is complete crap from everything ive heard. Buy online, not in a convenience store (If you were to buy any, of course)


[Edited on September 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM. Reason : aa]

9/5/2013 8:54:08 PM

Quote :

"^^ I didn't say it's cool, I said it looks cool."

Fair enough.

9/5/2013 9:02:42 PM

lol, vinylbandit ftw, that pic is pimp as hell

9/5/2013 9:56:22 PM

my dad looked real cool on christmas eve last year when his lungs filled with blood as he was getting dressed to go to the hospital to get some fluids because he couldn't hold down anything due to the chemo

all i could think about as they drug his corpse out on that gurney was how cool he looked

9/5/2013 10:04:20 PM

pussification of america

9/5/2013 10:05:38 PM

Coolest kid on the block...

9/5/2013 10:09:22 PM

that photo was taken by J.Caldwell, circa 2010 when Instagram was first launched

9/5/2013 10:16:25 PM

AHAHA

Seriously though, that girl looks so cool I think I'd take life advice from her. She'd probably tell me to quit smoking.

9/5/2013 10:41:40 PM

Regarding smoking looking cool... I think that's too big of a generalization. Some people it looks fucking stupid as shit.

9/5/2013 11:39:55 PM

I enjoy e-cigs a couple times a week, but even I'm starting to get annoyed with people that keep these things in their face constantly. I know several people who are constantly puffing on these things. My husband is seriously chain smoking all day on this thing now, when he used to smoke around 10 cigs a day. When he got it, he claimed he was going to use it to wean himself off of nicotine, but from what I can tell, his addiction is stronger than ever. I think he increased the strength of his juice versus a year ago, when he started.

What pisses me off more than the smell of it (though sometimes that is annoying-- he has like a hundred flavors and I've asked him not to make a few of them again and he keeps doing it, ugh) is that he's just so mindless about the thing. Anytime I look at him, he's just sucking on that e-cig with a dumb look on his face. Sometimes he starts looking for the fucking thing and asking me to help, and it's still in his hand. I have to tell him a couple times a week that he's not allowed to do it in bed, and I've repeatedly asked him not to do it beside my pets cages but he goes over there and stares at them and blows glycerin and propylene glycol all over them all the time. Mostly, he just has no idea what he's doing-- and I'm sure he's equally clueless to how he might be annoying other people with it, people who might be too polite to say anything. I'm a big old buzz kill, but fuck. Cigarettes at least come in discrete units, and only assholes smoke them indoors all the time. I literally cannot escape how annoying the e-cig become to me.

[Edited on September 6, 2013 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ]

9/6/2013 10:43:12 AM

NYC is banning e-cigs inside of buildings. People will need to take them outside in a couple of months

12/20/2013 8:37:04 AM

I hate smoking in general, but I thought the main appeal of these things was being able to smoke without bothering others or smelling like an ashtray. I think that banning them in public places will just make more people go back to regular cigarettes. I do not support the banning of them in public places. Maybe making a designated inside spot to do it would be a better choice.

12/20/2013 8:40:41 AM

yes, but the problem is, is that there are no definitive studies on the contents and effects of the second-hand vapor; apparently it's not just water vapor. If the second-hand vapor is safe, I don't think they should be banned.

12/20/2013 8:45:06 AM

Very true. I guess preemptively banning them until studies are done isn't a terrible idea.

12/20/2013 8:46:04 AM

I think it's interesting when legislation is passed for public health reasons, based on "non-science", for lack of a better term. If they ever do actually get around to doing research on this, and it is found that the vapor is completely harmless, I highly doubt they will go back and remove this ban.

It just seems like a snap judgement to me.

12/20/2013 8:52:38 AM

^this is exactly what happened with second hand smoke.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/12/12/study-finds-no-link-between-secondhand-smoke-and-cancer/

[Edited on December 20, 2013 at 8:58 AM. Reason : ]

12/20/2013 8:54:14 AM

^^I don't disagree.

12/20/2013 8:55:10 AM

But second hand smoke is not harmless.

12/20/2013 8:56:17 AM

Every time someone pulls one of these out they hunch over and suck on it like they're ashamed.

12/20/2013 9:03:06 AM

the stupid name for it annoys me.

Imma go vape.

12/20/2013 9:05:00 AM

I've never tried one of these... I've never been a smoker. Been meaning to pick up the habit though... maybe this can be my gateway??

12/20/2013 9:44:58 AM

If we've learned anything this week, it's that if anything bothers even the smallest minority of people, it should be banned.

12/20/2013 9:55:03 AM

Quote :

"the stupid name for it annoys me. Imma go vape."

THIS.



and it looks SO stupid...especially when people carry them around in their shirt pockets or have the lanyard around their neck

12/20/2013 10:47:56 AM

Quote :

"What pisses me off more than the smell of it (though sometimes that is annoying-- he has like a hundred flavors and I've asked him not to make a few of them again and he keeps doing it, ugh) is that he's just so mindless about the thing. Anytime I look at him, he's just sucking on that e-cig with a dumb look on his face. Sometimes he starts looking for the fucking thing and asking me to help, and it's still in his hand. I have to tell him a couple times a week that he's not allowed to do it in bed, and I've repeatedly asked him not to do it beside my pets cages but he goes over there and stares at them and blows glycerin and propylene glycol all over them all the time. Mostly, he just has no idea what he's doing-- and I'm sure he's equally clueless to how he might be annoying other people with it, people who might be too polite to say anything. I'm a big old buzz kill, but fuck. Cigarettes at least come in discrete units, and only assholes smoke them indoors all the time. I literally cannot escape how annoying the e-cig become to me."

Your husband sounds like a vapid cunt.

12/20/2013 10:55:37 AM

^more like a vaping cunt



They recently had to put it in my school's policy that ecigs will be treated like other tobacco products... they don't wants students "vaping."


[Edited on December 20, 2013 at 11:14 AM. Reason : ]

12/20/2013 11:01:49 AM

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

12/20/2013 11:54:56 AM

Smath74, smoking real cigs is a nuisance and I am glad they haven't unbanned them. Litter, actual smoke, nasty smell. While they may not cause cancer if someone smokes next to me they do make my eyes and throat burn, as well as make me nauseated and give me a headache. I feel like it is slightly different from someone not liking the way something you are doing smells.

Was there anything in the study about second hand smoke and pregnant women/fetuses?

[Edited on December 20, 2013 at 12:00 PM. Reason : ...]

12/20/2013 11:58:37 AM

NYC wants to criminalize smoking so badly but they don't have the balls to do it

[Edited on December 20, 2013 at 12:04 PM. Reason : Just put Nicotine on Schedule 1 and be done with it]

12/20/2013 12:02:37 PM