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6/6/2013 9:53:57 AM

Byrn Stuff
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I think a lot of these have changed as I've gotten older. In rural Greensboro, I was a lot more likely to say y'all, buggy, etc., but when we moved to Charlotte, my accent apparently sounded country as hell. Nine year olds ain't to proud to abandon their linguistic idiosyncrasies.

6/6/2013 9:56:10 AM

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Strangely enough it's swimming poool and reading a boook in the north of england just a few miles away.

6/6/2013 9:58:14 AM

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the funniest thing is hearing my dad say putty, as in putty knife. He is from LA (lower Alabama) and pronounces it as puddy. He also pronounces Tuesday as Tuesdee, Georgia as Georgee, okra as okree

6/6/2013 9:59:48 AM

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My gf is from southern Mississippi and her family lives in Tuscaloosa.. I'll have to see if she says anything like this, I've never heard it though

[Edited on June 6, 2013 at 10:26 AM. Reason : The devil beating his wife thing]

6/6/2013 10:26:22 AM

joe_schmoe
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my dad is from pittsburgh. there's a very specific dialect there.

all of you, or you all, is "yinz" (the pittsburgh version of "yall")

downtown is pronounced "dahn-tahn".

Rubber bands are "gumbands". a faucet is a "spicket". a nosey person is "nebby". lunchmeat is "chipped ham" or "chipped beef" (because it's ALWAYS cut thin). you don't wash something, you "warsh" it. sandwiches are "sammitches". and so on.

6/6/2013 11:06:33 AM

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^ I'm from eastern NC and grew up using spicket to describe the cold water only valve that you hook your waterhose up to. Faucets had handles for hot and cold. As an aside, I just tried to Google spicket and apparently most of the internet spells it spigot. Neat.

6/6/2013 11:45:44 AM

Flyin Ryan
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"I still say "the devil is beating his wife"

I also like the term pill bug over roly poly, I use the term icing, and I grew up saying buggy, sneakers and scrap paper.

Apparently I am from no particular region."


I'm mixed up too. My parents are Hoosiers and I lived there when I was 2 years old but til I was 30 I lived mostly in eastern N.C. I'm from a military town though so everyone evens everyone else out kind of.

6/6/2013 11:46:27 AM

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I say sweeper for vacuum and changer for remote

6/6/2013 11:49:07 AM

BIGcementpon
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"I don't remember ever hearing "loyers" in media/movies"

The only time in media that I can think of right off is the short thing about Harvey Levin that comes up after TMZ - "I'm a loyer!"

6/6/2013 11:49:58 AM

Talage
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I'm pretty sure I say loyer. All of my first generation NC friends (who's parents are from places like NJ) make fun of me for saying it wrong.

6/6/2013 11:54:33 AM

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It's definitely "law-yer"

6/6/2013 12:11:12 PM

Shadowrunner
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I mean, haters gonna hate, but I don't understand why this is getting any press. He basically just took the data from a decade-old survey and remade the maps to look like an amateur airbrush project and be less useful than the originals:

http://www4.uwm.edu/FLL/linguistics/dialect/maps.html

He could have basically produced extremely similar maps to this using a canned kriging tool in ArcGIS in about an hour.

6/6/2013 1:20:54 PM

wdprice3
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If you're still a student and like some exposure to linguistics, ANT 254 is a very interesting course.

6/6/2013 1:30:35 PM

MinkaGrl01

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One thing I find interesting is the difference between saying 2:45 as "Quarter of 3" or "Quarter till 3"

anyone else notice that?

6/6/2013 2:36:47 PM

Skwinkle
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When I was little and people would say quarter of, I was never sure if they meant quarter till, or quarter after.

6/6/2013 2:45:51 PM

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I've always said "Boo-wee" and everyone else has said "Bow-wee". And I've always been right. PG County, MD.

6/6/2013 4:29:54 PM

wdprice3
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Dammit. I'm either a Texan or Marylander.

NOT happy about this.

6/6/2013 4:37:23 PM

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This is what our culture is interested in

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

6/6/2013 4:38:43 PM

Spontaneous
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^^ Or historically educated. I will give you a pass as "Smart".

6/6/2013 4:47:44 PM

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6/6/2013 6:07:36 PM

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"And I've always been right. PG County, MD."


Only because of Bowie, MD

6/6/2013 6:13:53 PM

joe_schmoe
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i almost got in a fight in a bar in Kansas because i called the "Arkansas River" the same pronunciation as the state: AR-kan-saw

apparently, people in Kansas get really bent out of shape about the river. they say it's called the ar-KAN-zez river. I laughed, at first, but a bunch of Kansas fucktards will just as soon punch you in the mouth as to discuss it.

(i never spent any time in Arkansas to speak of, but i'll bet they aren't idiots about it.)

6/6/2013 6:41:04 PM

Flyin Ryan
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Always heard it was the other way, that Arkansans are the ones that get uppity about it. There's a state law on the books regarding the state's pronunciation. Arkansas is a French origin.

6/6/2013 6:53:43 PM

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I knew a guy from Arkansas and when ever we were making fun of each other I would always remind him that he was from R-Kansas. He hated it.

6/6/2013 7:34:50 PM

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some of yall hillbillies (or "heel" billies as you say) probably call this dude DALE curry

6/6/2013 7:51:51 PM

ncsuapex
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Or as the Yankees say. Dell Earnhardt.

6/6/2013 8:00:24 PM

dmspack
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yeah i definitely pronounce dale/dell the same (as well hail/hell, fail/fell, etc)

and my gf always makes fun of me for saying "might could"...i'm sure it's grammatically incorrect but i say it anyway.



[Edited on June 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM. Reason : ssoa]

6/6/2013 9:07:18 PM

bcsawyer
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"the devil is beating is wife" is an extremely common phrase in SE NC.

6/6/2013 10:06:09 PM

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"I mean, haters gonna hate, but I don't understand why this is getting any press. He basically just took the data from a decade-old survey and remade the maps to look like an amateur airbrush project and be less useful than the originals:"


RTI pays stats majors large amounts of money to analyze survey data

6/6/2013 11:10:34 PM

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I don't understand people who say "coke" as a synonym for soda.

I mean are you telling me that in Alabama if I ask for a Coke they will ask me "what kind"?

6/6/2013 11:49:29 PM

BJCaudill21
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I think you have that backwards? Like you ask what kind and they say soda instead of coke? Or is that on one of the pictures

6/6/2013 11:53:30 PM

AndyMac
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Nah look at the huge picture up there.

Most of the country is divided between "Soda" and "pop" as a term for soft drink, but some places use "coke" as a generic word kind of like people use "kleenex" as a generic word for tissue.

However there's really only one kind of facial tissue so saying kleenex is fine, but there are lots of different kinds of soft drinks. So "coke" is a horrible word to use for soda.

[Edited on June 7, 2013 at 12:02 AM. Reason : ]

6/7/2013 12:02:06 AM

emory
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my grandmother always said "Co-Cola"

6/7/2013 1:44:12 PM

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we always just called it a "drink"

6/7/2013 1:48:15 PM

Smath74
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People don't go into a restaurant wanting mountain dew and say "can i have a coke?"

just like people don't go into a restaurant wanting mountain dew and say "can I have a pop/soda/softdrink?"

in those cases they would all specifically order "mountain dew"



it's more like "hey, what kind of coke do you have?"
similar to "hey, what kind of soda do you have?"
or "hey, what kind of soft drinks do you have?"

6/7/2013 2:15:26 PM

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[X] Durham
[  ] Doorum

It's a u, wtf?

6/7/2013 2:25:51 PM

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I'd like to see the graph for how people pronounce Massachusetts

6/7/2013 2:29:57 PM

Smath74
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"massa" "chew" "sits"

6/7/2013 2:31:41 PM

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yeeeeah I default and say Doorum, sometimes I catch it and correct myself in time

6/7/2013 2:37:45 PM

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Quote :
" we always just called it a "drink""


Same.

And, smath is right about the coke/soda/pop thing.

6/7/2013 4:25:30 PM

joepeshi
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I was called out by a teacher in 9th grade for saying cement like c-meant.

6/17/2013 3:27:19 AM

DeltaBeta
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I pronounce Mary, merry and marry all differently and I grew up in NC. Must be an outlier.

6/17/2013 4:06:36 PM

dmspack
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here's a survey/quiz you can take yourself (put together by the same guy as the original maps) and the results give you a map of where your dialect fits in the best. pretty cool.

http://spark.rstudio.com/jkatz/DialectQuiz/

my results:



nothing surprising considering i was born and raised in (johnston county) north carolina. although it's a bit interesting that i'm a little more in line with the western part of the state.

my most similar cities were:
winston salem, nc
greensboro, nc
charlotte, nc
birmingham, al
nashville, tn

my least similar cities were:
plymouth, ma
lowell, ma
boston, ma
providence, ri
worcester, ma


[Edited on September 2, 2013 at 2:17 PM. Reason : li]

[Edited on September 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM. Reason : d]

9/2/2013 2:15:59 PM

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Most Similar Cities
1 Long Beach CA 53.4
2 Torrance CA 53.2
3 Bakersfield CA 52.4
4 Anaheim CA 52.3
5 Santa Clarita CA 52.2


Least Similar Cities
1 Minneapolis MN 37.5
2 Sioux Falls SD 38.4
3 Cedar Rapids IA 38.9
4 Green Bay WI 39.4
5 Warren MI 39.9


Interesting. I was born and lived a few years in California but it was in a military town so everyone was from all over. Plus it was over three hours from those towns.

I know when I was a kid when I moved from NC for a few years I got made fun of for having a Southern accent (which I mostly picked up from having a mom from Georgia) so I made a conscious effort to start imitating the speech of people on tv. So maybe that accounts for the California connection.

9/2/2013 5:56:46 PM

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Most Similar Cities
1 San Bernardino CA 51.0
2 Riverside CA 50.9
3 Fontana CA 50.9
4 Moreno Valley CA 50.8
5 Long Beach CA 50.8

Least Similar Cities
1 Minneapolis MN 37.8
2 Bridgeport CT 38.1
3 Sioux Falls SD 38.3
4 Waterbury CT 38.5
5 Detroit MI 38.7

Been to southern California many times, but unlike ^ I've never lived there. My mom & her side of the family are from the midwest, my dad's side of the family are from NC

Typically the only time you hear me rock a southern accent is when I get really drunk

9/2/2013 7:02:25 PM

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considering i was born, and all my family was born (aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins), in the darkest red areas.... i'd say its pretty accurate.

least similar didnt include that massive suckhole of dark blue on my map?

Most Similar Cities
1 Toms River NJ 54.3
2 Philadelphia PA 54.1
3 Stamford CT 53.7
4 Newark NJ 53.6
5 Bridgeport CT 53.4

Least Similar Cities
1 Sioux Falls SD 47.1
2 Jackson MS 47.2
3 Colorado Springs CO 47.7
4 Pueblo CO 47.8
5 Huntsville AL 47.9


[Edited on September 2, 2013 at 8:30 PM. Reason : embiggen]

[Edited on September 2, 2013 at 8:32 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2013 8:29:03 PM

bcsawyer
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I've heard and said "the devil is beating his wife" all of my life in SE NC. I don't know about this guy's stuff. Soft drinks are called just that, or mainly "drinks" if making a general reference. In this area they are usually just referred to by name. You rarely hear white people say soda in this context, but it is common in the black dialect. I have no idea why it's like that, but it has been that way for a very long time. Nobody says pop unless they moved from up north. Other parts of the state may differ, but I don't know. I've never heard "coke" as a general reference for soft drinks, though that seems to have become a Southern stereotype and may be common in other regions. I did know a guy from the foothills of NC who called soft drinks a "soda dope" or a "dope." He said it was common in that area and was a holdover from when Coca Cola had cocaine in it. I've never heard anyone else say that, though.

9/2/2013 10:37:59 PM

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I want people to look at this picture and try to explain how it could possibly be pronounced "Reecies"

9/2/2013 10:49:12 PM

puck_it
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^Yes, that

9/2/2013 11:22:32 PM

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