eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
I saw it tonight and I thought it exceeded my expectations, but not quite in the manner I was thinking. I won't say more than that. I obviously know there will be some minor points us nerds can argue about but definitely see it. 11/6/2014 11:29:13 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Christopher Grace is in this? Now I can't bring myself to watch it.
*seriously, you pieces of shit that call yourselves topher should die in a fucking dumpster fire. 11/6/2014 11:56:35 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
again, no spoiler in what I said.
Like, do you even read movie reviews, bro? 11/7/2014 2:37:18 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Movie was awesome in pretty much every way.
ibt armchair physicists come in and tell us how unrealistic everything was 11/7/2014 8:45:12 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
^Son, I'm an aerospace engineer at NASA. None of that armchair nonsense.
But in actuality, I really liked this movie. The review on Page 1 about scientific inaccuracies was fairly... inaccurate. I won't go into detail until more people have seen it but the movie explained a lot of those inaccuracies and I guess the author of that article just didn't quite catch it.
There were a few inaccuracies that I observed from an engineering perspective but they weren't really that far fetched and given a number of assumptions they could be possible but unlikely. Not enough to detract from the movie though, and nothing nearly as silly as Armageddon. They did get a lot of things right though.
The movie had a very grand and epic feeling towards it. It was almost three hours long and it didn't feel like that at all. It didn't drag, and I was captivated the whole time. I'd say it ranks up there with Inception when it comes to how good a movie it was (I really liked Inception). Definitely go see it, but I'm guessing if you've read this far into my post you were going to go see it anyway.
[Edited on November 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM. Reason : ] 11/7/2014 9:29:01 AM |
BlackSheep Suspended 1575 Posts user info edit post |
I think the movie got a lot right. When the ending kind of started presenting itself, I was like 'oh man, they messed this up'. But then it kind of turned out ok.
SPOILER ALERT
I think its no surprise that there is a timetravel paradox.
END SPOILER
I personally disliked inception, but do agree that this movie had a grand feeling.
[Edited on November 7, 2014 at 9:54 AM. Reason : inception]
[Edited on November 15, 2014 at 5:10 PM. Reason : durrrrr] 11/7/2014 9:53:06 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
You may wanna edit out 2nd part of your post. People get pissed at the slightest hint of a spoiler here.
[Edited on November 7, 2014 at 9:55 AM. Reason : ] 11/7/2014 9:54:31 AM |
BlackSheep Suspended 1575 Posts user info edit post |
^ Shouldn't you get back to work building a rocket or something? 11/7/2014 10:08:05 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Running a simulation in MATLAB right now actually, lol. Takes a few mins between for each run and hogs a lot of system resources. Fortunately TWW doesn't require much ram. 11/7/2014 10:10:34 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think its no surprise that there is a timetravel paradox. " |
Not the surprise that I was referencing. So, that pretty much validates my point.
[Edited on November 7, 2014 at 1:10 PM. Reason : sorry smath. I still love ya even though you yelled at me]]11/7/2014 1:09:42 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Son, I'm an aerospace engineer at NASA. None of that armchair nonsense. " |
Doesn't NASA have about a quadrillion sub companies? So, Unless you are rushing in a model of a lunar lander made out of a space suit to give to Mission Control, your credibility is nothing.11/7/2014 1:13:49 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Son I don't work for one of those "quadrillion sub companies" I am a direct employee of NASA and no I am not working on a lunar lander (although another NCSU grad in my branch is), I do flight mechanics and analysis on launch vehicles and spacecraft so I know I know my shit when it comes to things that fly in space.
btw for those who have seen/will see it tonight, here is an interesting early draft of the script which changes the last half of the movie considerably: http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1ta9lz/has_anyone_read_that_old_interstellar_script_what/
[Edited on November 7, 2014 at 1:44 PM. Reason : script] 11/7/2014 1:40:25 PM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
^oohhh.... burn brah! burn!!! 11/7/2014 1:47:54 PM |
BlackSheep Suspended 1575 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not sure that working at NASA now is as big of a deal as it was even 10 years ago. Its like the IBM of going to space. Other people really do the exciting work now. 11/7/2014 3:10:47 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
^Not sure if you are trolling or not. Other companies are doing things NASA has been doing for 50 years. That is why NASA is funding them to do it, going to Low Earth Orbit (LEO) isn't really pushing the limits of human knowledge anymore. Who else has legitimate plans (let alone a schedule and a vehicle in construction) to send humans beyond LEO? We're currently planning on sending people around the moon for the first time since 1973, then from then on further than any human has ever traveled.
[Edited on November 7, 2014 at 3:20 PM. Reason : ] 11/7/2014 3:19:31 PM |
BlackSheep Suspended 1575 Posts user info edit post |
Not trolling, truthing. NASA really only gets the funding to do research. They have these plans to go places but administration changes always castrate their budget and those plans get pushed off. It will be spacex or someone like that that ends up going. NASA is like the postal service, a government agency that would be better off as a private industry. 11/7/2014 3:55:17 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Just saw it, thought it was good. Wouldn't watch it again though.
Holy fuck was that shit loud though. Hans picked a few chimes and chords and turned 10 seconds of music into the entire soundtrack, and made it loud as fuck. 11/8/2014 12:20:25 AM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
wow, that movie was...dense. It will take me some time to really try to understand everything. Overall, i think i really liked it. I think the last 20 or so minutes were its weakest parts, but i still enjoyed it as a whole.
I watched it in a regular theater, and I'm kind of glad i didn't do IMAX, i got a little queasy in the sequence right after they left earth, and i feel like in IMAX would have been a lot worse (but i am very susceptible to motion/water/flight sickness)
*****MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD (although it would take a long fucking time and a lot of detailed typing to really spoil this flick accurately)
Some minor complaints:
even though this movie was long as fuck, i felt it was a little awkward how they just seemed to sweep right through how Cooper got involved in the mission. It was like he found their secret base, and then a day or 2 later was launching into space as the captain, I thought it was a really poor showing of the passage of time (of course i realize that this idea ties in precisely with the whole movie's subject matter of relativity and time, but i don't think it was a purposeful editing tactic, just that they had to cut time somewhere and in this case it didn't work out so well)
I had a very hard time understanding what the robots were saying (or even that it was them talking initially each time they spoke), especially during some of the louder spaceship thruster sequences.
as i said, the last 20 or so minutes i did not like nearly as much. Even the idea that he got sent back and was able to use gravity to communicate back in time i didn't really have a problem with, it was that adult Murph all of a sudden figured it out when she was sitting there after she burned the crops (and before figuring out the watch code). That was the biggest leap that i just couldn't accept, it was like she looked at the broken moon lander and figured out that it was her dad sending back messages all of a sudden??
but it was a beautiful movie, that had me on the edge of my seat in many parts, and had some cameos that i was not expecting at all.
Very enjoyable overall experience 11/8/2014 12:25:27 AM |
MONGO All American 599 Posts user info edit post |
lol. 5 posts on the wolf web over the span of 6 hours totaling 500 words. during the work day. while searching reddit for a thread that was created 10 months ago. sounds like i need to find a job in the government
reddit link was interesting though, thanks for showing that.
interesting the science sort of checks out.
if you are planning on watching at crossroads 20, do yourself a favor and bring earmuffs, shit was cranked to 11.
interested in what others thought. definitely something to see in theaters, i don't see how a tv would do this movie justice.
would write more, but i fear smath would track me down if i comment on anything related to the plot. 11/8/2014 12:32:44 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " It didn't drag, and I was captivated the whole time. I'd say it ranks up there with Inception when it comes to how good a movie it was (I really liked Inception). " |
I thought Inception kinda sucked, and this blew it out of the water.11/8/2014 1:45:53 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
***Irrelevant spoilers***
Quote : | "i felt it was a little awkward how they just seemed to sweep right through how Cooper got involved in the mission. It was like he found their secret base, and then a day or 2 later was launching into space as the captain" |
Agreed. "You're a top pilot, crucial to the mission, not crucial enough to recruit you though. Now that you stumbled into our base, mind piloting a space ship for a few years? Thanks"
The entire "Solve the equation for gravity and now magic space civilization in 20 years" thing was just, idk.
It was cool to see relativity correctly done in a movie though, lol when they get back from the water world and the black guy is like "I've been here for... 20 years holy shit"11/8/2014 1:50:26 AM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
******SPOILER*********
It was more than 20 years. Murph was what, maybe 35 or 40 when she received the message? At the end she is probably in her 90s, potentially significantly older due to health care advances and cryogen. So I think you're looking at 50-70 years.
I agree on the first point, though. It was kind of weird how even two years into the mission Cooper appears to still know virtually nothing about it (there's a black hole?!?). I guess that was done so that they could explain things to the audience, but it was a bit clunky.
Absolutely loved it overall though in spite of a number of flaws and it going a bit M. Night Shyamalan-y at the end. 11/8/2014 3:11:36 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I loved the first 2/3 of the movie, then the end got a little hokey for me. Overall I really like this movie, the music made it super intense and I thought they did a pretty good job developing characters. I have two little girls, one of which is almost 5 years old and super inquisitive, so the whole Murph-Coop story tugged on my heart strings. I will say that after the first viewing, I didn't enjoy this one as much as i liked Inception. Inception seemed to tie things together in the end better than Interstellar did
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First, ^I think he was just talking about when they got back from the first planet, they said 23 years had elapsed
-While in the tesseract, Coop and TARS communicate and come to the realization that humans in the future have found a way to control gravity and quantum physics across time, which is how Coop winds up in the tesseract. They say that he is led there, by the future humans, specifically to teach Murph about the quantum physics of the black hole, which she can use to tweak the gravity equation and rescue the humans on Earth. But, wouldn't Coop have had to discover this information and relay it back to earth first, before humans in the future could send him to the tesseract? I dunno if I'm explaining it well, but there seems to be a chicken/egg plot hole going on. Coop would've had to relay the info to Murphy, she would solve the gravity equation and save the planet, repopulate a new planet (maybe the one Brand was on), evolve over possibly thousands of years to the point of discovering how to control gravity and time, then go back in time to set Coop up in the tesseract...
-After the tesseract fell apart, how did he get out of the black hole? He just all of a sudden was floating in space and was found by a spaceship presumably scouting around the Cooper Station
-Maybe they somehow overcame this issue in the future, but in every space movie I've ever seen oxygen supply is a major issue. How the hell did Coop survive so long in his suit??
-If Murph knew about Brand surviving on the foreign planet, one that would presumably become future earth, why hadn't they sent anyone to help her out yet? Why did Coop have to sneak out to go on the mission to find her?
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like I said, pretty much all of my gripes came in the last 1/3 of the movie. Everything else was excellent and I would recommend this movie for sure.
[Edited on November 8, 2014 at 7:19 AM. Reason : asdf] 11/8/2014 7:10:35 AM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
***********spoiler responses***********
Quote : | "But, wouldn't Coop have had to discover this information and relay it back to earth first, before humans in the future could send him to the tesseract? I dunno if I'm explaining it well, but there seems to be a chicken/egg plot hole going on." |
Not necessarily, it could have been the line of Plan B humans that evolved that far, then decided to go back and save the people of earth, Anne Hatheway was able to get the embryos to the new planet.
Quote : | "Maybe they somehow overcame this issue in the future, but in every space movie I've ever seen oxygen supply is a major issue. How the hell did Coop survive so long in his suit??" |
It really wasn't that long, he went into the black hole, ejected, got into the tesseract (where he could be at any time) for a few minutes, then they spit him out at the other end of the worm hole at a time "they" knew he would be quickly found by a scout ship
********end spoilers**********
[Edited on November 8, 2014 at 7:44 AM. Reason : $$$]11/8/2014 7:43:44 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
SPOILER QUESTION SO BETTA BE CAREFULS MR: SMATH
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Why didn't they stick with original script idea where the whole point of the wormhole was to save the dying organism, not to provide a device to save earth? That sounds a lot better than the generic "an everyday farm boy saves the world" shit that they ended up using.
- Chow
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[Edited on November 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM. Reason : s] 11/8/2014 8:56:25 AM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
********** MORE SPOILERS BUT MAYBE WE CAN STOP THIS SINCE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE CLICKING ON A DISCUSSION THREAD ABOUT A MOVIE THAT IS OUT NOT EXPECTING TO FIND DISCUSSION ABOUT IT ********************
Quote : | "I think he was just talking about when they got back from the first planet, they said 23 years had elapsed" |
In the 2nd paragraph not the 3rd.
Quote : | "Not necessarily, it could have been the line of Plan B humans that evolved that far, then decided to go back and save the people of earth, Anne Hatheway was able to get the embryos to the new planet. " |
The Plan B humans would not have existed either because it was future humans that created the wormhole to allow them to travel to that galaxy. It is a classic time travel paradox but I don't really see it as a plot hole. It's just something that we can't really comprehend in the slightest and we really have no idea how such things would work. I guess this movie used Terminator rules rather than Back to the Future rules haha. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrap_paradox
Quote : | "Why didn't they stick with original script idea where the whole point of the wormhole was to save the dying organism, not to provide a device to save earth? That sounds a lot better than the generic "an everyday farm boy saves the world" shit that they ended up using." |
I thought the original story was kind of absurd and not always in a good way. I would love to see what it would be like just because it was so different, but I think I prefer the one they went with. Plus Cooper wasn't a farm boy by choice; originally he was a NASA scientist and pilot.
[Edited on November 8, 2014 at 10:26 AM. Reason : .]11/8/2014 10:25:13 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
The entire gravity equation shit made zero sense to me. The transition from solving an equation to everyone living in space?
The wave scene was cool, I wish they didn't show that in the previews 1000 times though. 11/8/2014 11:01:00 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
50 years is enough to change a lot if you can control gravity.
Controlling gravity really is a profound game changer 11/8/2014 1:25:38 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
***SPOILERS BUT IF YOU READ THIS FAR IT IS TOO LATE ANYWAY***
My question would be why was the wormhole placed out by Saturn instead of somewhere closer? Couldn't the future humans place our end of it a little closer to Earth? Say near where the first slingshot point was around Mars? Also I think people are forgetting even when they arrived on the other side of the wormhole they were already on a slower time scale than our solar system's side. It wasn't anything close to the 1 hour = 7 years on Miller's Planet next to Gargantua, but they were still being influenced by it. Amelia's perceived wait time on Edmund's planet would be shorter than the time it would take for Coop to get to her.
[Edited on November 8, 2014 at 1:30 PM. Reason : .] 11/8/2014 1:29:18 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
So they knew that on the surface of Miller's planet 1 hour = 7 years, why didn't they think "Oh well from that point of view, Miller has only been down there like an hour and a half. Not really enough time to fully determine the capability of sustaining life. Maybe we should skip that one and come back in another few decades." 11/8/2014 1:54:54 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Wraith that is a good point. Anyway I am not going to nitpick it too much. i loved it. 11/8/2014 2:05:19 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
**SPOILERS***
Another question I had is why did it have to be another galaxy? We have already discovered plenty of exoplanets in the Milky Way. Some of them are thought to be in the habitable zones as well (Kepler 186f about 500 light years away as one example). Was it because creating the wormhole was dependent on the existence of Gargantua? 11/8/2014 8:48:17 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
*******spoiler******
^i don't think it depended on the black hole, just that it was a planet that was absolutely definitely habitable, not just potentially
**¥********* 11/8/2014 9:03:34 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Spoilers: http://i.imgur.com/MgwWMFU.jpg
[Edited on November 9, 2014 at 12:13 PM. Reason : link] 11/9/2014 12:12:50 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I agree and in reality it doesn't matter too much as the whole point is having to cover unimaginable distances. Of course the Lazarus missions were investigating "potentially habitable" worlds as well when they first ventured through the wormhole. 11/9/2014 2:00:43 PM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
*****SPOILERS*******
****SPOILERS***
Quote : | "Even the idea that he got sent back and was able to use gravity to communicate back in time i didn't really have a problem with, it was that adult Murph all of a sudden figured it out when she was sitting there after she burned the crops (and before figuring out the watch code). That was the biggest leap that i just couldn't accept, it was like she looked at the broken moon lander and figured out that it was her dad sending back messages all of a sudden??" |
I agree with Money_Jones, this was the part that annoyed me the most--and yeah the last bit of the movie was a bit hokey but I still enjoyed it... until this part. Most of the "questionable" parts of the movie are suspension-of-disbelief kind of stuff, and this was just... seemingly heavy-handed.11/9/2014 2:51:19 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ that seems easily explained by the fact that she had her entire life to think about it. People have epiphanies all the time, doesn't seem that strange to me.
The whole "what if love transcends space and time" was a bit hokey but not so much it ruined the movie. Time paradoxes are inevitable when you have backwards time travel, there's no use expecting a movie to solve this. 11/9/2014 3:56:20 PM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
SPOILER ALERT
ok like most people I could accept us going through a black hole but couldn't accept the fact that ol girl put the pieces together especially with that watch. I thought it was great until he went thru the time bedroom and bookshelf warp. I about threw up.
Chris Nolan pulled a Chris nolan with horrible use of passage of time ( which is very ironic for this movie), huge emotional ties in, and Hans Zimmer blaring that epic music during parts where characters are speaking.
I thought the robot there for only Deus Ex Machina.
I thought it was very well acted. shot extremely well and the story held my attention. 11/10/2014 1:54:51 AM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
The soundtrack was fucking great. The music during the docking scene... goddamn. 11/12/2014 1:01:17 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think its no surprise that there is a timetravel paradox." |
except that there wasn't one
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/time-travel-simulation-resolves-grandfather-paradox/
[Edited on November 12, 2014 at 1:58 PM. Reason : here, i'll even throw in a link]11/12/2014 1:57:25 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ umm... that doesn't demonstrate that this isn't a paradox. 11/12/2014 3:18:40 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
to be fair .... it does represent a place where we can begin rationalizing why it might not be paradoxical, which is closer to where we were 10 years ago. Even though it could be incorrect, it's a start in that direction 11/13/2014 11:49:31 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.businessinsider.com/neil-degrasse-tyson-interstellar-ending-2014-11 11/13/2014 1:22:32 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
The biggest stretch was a smart Matt Damon. Couldn't get over that. And that dude has been eating a lot of donuts since Bourne. 11/13/2014 3:31:14 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
I just saw this tonight. Holy shit. So fucking intense the whole time. This made Gravity look like Mary Poppins. I don't think you could get the same experience at home without a killer surround system and neighbors that don't give a shit.
I felt like it got cheesy in parts (the whole LOVE thing) and some scenes could certainly been left out to allow expansion on other scenes but it was fascinating and a good movie all together.
I just don't get how a dystopian type of planet that can't sustain agriculture could, at the same time, develop cryogenic technology and space ships that can just blast out of atmospheres - especially ones with 200%+ Earth's gravity (water planet) with no problem.
I also kind of wished that since they went on the cheesy "love is intangible and conquers all" theme that the last scene would have been Cooper showing up at homegirl's planet and waking her up from the tank and when she wakes up to see his face - credits. 11/13/2014 11:43:57 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I wish they would have explored the other planets more. I was REALLY hoping for a movie to visualize what an exosolar planet might be like, but they barely explored the other planets.
I still liked the movie but it wasn't what I thought it would be. 11/14/2014 12:44:17 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Just saw the movie, I knew basically nothing going in except it involved space. I was completely blown away, I thought it was going to be an average movie but they took those expectations and shattered them. I thought the acting, the music, the special effects were all spectacular and when it was over I couldn't believe it was basically three hours. This is definitely a movie to see in theaters. The surround sound was just incredible. 11/15/2014 5:08:13 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
I really liked this movie. I was about to mark the spoilers in people's older posts, but that's kind of pointless now I guess.
See it in 15 perf 70mm if you can.] 11/15/2014 5:12:24 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I just don't get how a dystopian type of planet that can't sustain agriculture could, at the same time, develop cryogenic technology and space ships that can just blast out of atmospheres - especially ones with 200%+ Earth's gravity (water planet) with no problem. " |
Yeah the part when they left the water planet was a huge scientific fallacy to me but I chalk that up to my engineering background, I doubt most people would have thought much about it. They needed a three stage launch vehicle to get that capsule into orbit around Earth but it was able to leave the water planet unassisted from a horizontal launch vector even though the gravity was like 1.6G. Outside of that they were pretty good with the science. As for having the cryogenic technology, I guess it is feasible to say that the technology was created before the agricultural issues started.11/15/2014 5:27:34 PM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds and stuff. Sounds like another forgettable movie ride like Avatar since no one wants to talk about the meat of it. At least Cameron had Terminator and Aliens. 11/15/2014 7:06:24 PM |