vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
If you'd feel sympathy for someone who had their window smashed, you should feel sympathy for someone who has had something stolen from a supposedly secure account. 9/1/2014 3:00:53 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39307 Posts user info edit post |
it'd be like somebody bashing your front door down no matter how many locks you have on said door and stealing anything valuable from inside your house
it's online breaking & entering/theft 9/1/2014 3:02:51 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
since no one reads the last post:
so maybe it's like locking your valuables in your car in a shady neighborhood. probably not a good idea.
aren't there signs in the parking decks downtown that tell you to lock your car and take your valuables with you? THOSE VICTIM BLAMING ASSHOLES!
^^why is it important that we feel sympathy? just because i lack sympathy doesn't mean the hacker isn't a criminal who deserves to be prosecuted.
[Edited on September 1, 2014 at 3:03 PM. Reason : dsfs] 9/1/2014 3:03:00 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "aren't there signs in the parking decks downtown that tell you to lock your car and take your valuables with you? THOSE VICTIM BLAMING ASSHOLES!" |
Yes, there are those signs. And that's good advice. But when someone breaks in and takes that shit, the cops don't show up and say, "DEAL WITH IT, IDIOT." They write a report and try to find the stuff (I know they don't really try to find it).
Quote : | "why is it important that we feel sympathy?" |
I don't care whether you do or not, but you said you'd feel sympathy for someone whose window was smashed, which is exactly what's happened with these pictures.
[Edited on September 1, 2014 at 3:04 PM. Reason : 3]9/1/2014 3:04:03 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldn't feel sympathy for someone who had their window smashed and a diamond ring stolen off the seat. it was pretty stupid to leave it there.
however, i would still hope that the thief was caught and prosecuted. 9/1/2014 3:06:34 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Why can feminists only look at the issue as black and white? Saying that women should take precautionary actions does not mean the person who committed the act isn't guilty and a bad person. It is called living in reality where shitty people do shitty things and so you should take reasonable precautions. Being an attractive female celebrity makes you a huge target for things like this and so all you have to do in order to prevent it is not take nude pictures. If you do take them them you are taking a risk that they will be leaked, simple as that. It doesn't make the hacker any less shitty but it is a situation that can easily be prevented in the first place if you are worried about this sort of thing being a possibility.
[Edited on September 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM. Reason : .] 9/1/2014 3:07:02 PM |
MrGreen All American 2281 Posts user info edit post |
stfu
celebrities aren't people 9/1/2014 3:08:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148452 Posts user info edit post |
vinylbandit and thegoodlife sure do feel sympathy for Justin Verlander's iCould account getting hacked] 9/1/2014 3:14:21 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " It is called living in reality where shitty people do shitty things and so you should take reasonable precautions." |
Women have to take more precautions than men. That is bullshit.9/1/2014 3:20:52 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Well that is unfortunate isn't it? You mean we don't live in a world of nothing but unicorns and sunshine? 9/1/2014 3:22:13 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
It's more than unfortunate.
IT'S INSTITUTIONALIZED BIAS AGAINST 50% OF THE HUMAN RACE
"It's harder for women, they should deal with it" is not an acceptable answer to this problem.
[Edited on September 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM. Reason : 3] 9/1/2014 3:25:28 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
folks would rather see tits than dicks. simple as that. 9/1/2014 3:26:09 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39307 Posts user info edit post |
when was that ever up for debate? 9/1/2014 3:28:43 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
what exactly are you wanting to debate? 9/1/2014 3:30:46 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
if women want to be equal they should start hacking male celebrities' icloud accounts and releasing them on 4chan 9/1/2014 3:31:22 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
So instead of taking precautions AND working to make systemic change, girls should act like the world we live in is fantasy land. Can't do both at once. Got it.
[Edited on September 1, 2014 at 3:32 PM. Reason : ,] 9/1/2014 3:31:42 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Reddit won't load 9/1/2014 3:43:11 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I never said that. But continuing the attitude of "this is to be expected" helps encourage the power imbalance. 9/1/2014 3:51:17 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
No it doesn't. Saying taking naked photos puts you at a higher risk for naked photos leaking online is just common fucking sense. That goes for anyone, male, female, celebrity, average joe, etc. 9/1/2014 3:53:56 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Music snob, wrestling fan, and now this thread. VBandit may in fact be the worst. 9/1/2014 4:00:59 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ I never said that. But continuing the attitude of "this is to be expected" helps encourage the power imbalance." |
Eh, not really. It's just stating the obvious. Yes, we should all feel like we can share nude photos "securely" online. But the reality is, nothing is secure online, so you probably shouldn't do it. And that goes double for celebrities, who are almost certainly being actively attacked at all times.9/1/2014 4:04:08 PM |
BIGcementpon Status Name 11318 Posts user info edit post |
http://gizmodo.com/the-icloud-flaw-that-could-have-caused-the-nude-celeb-l-1629216633 http://labs.detectify.com/post/96347701121/how-the-celebrity-hack-could-have-been-done 9/1/2014 4:15:40 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
the site totally works if you use incognito mode on chrome.
the kate uptown sex tape is definitely worth a look. 9/1/2014 4:40:39 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
that link would be a perfect platform to spread ot a virus or collect info, if that is possible. 9/1/2014 4:45:42 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
by the way, where do I find that link 9/1/2014 4:47:05 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheFappening/comments/2f44n0/new_celeb_leaked_pics_all_in_one_place/ 9/1/2014 4:56:33 PM |
Walter All American 7766 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 3, 2014 at 9:22 AM. Reason : Lol]
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moron All American 34145 Posts user info edit post |
not having sex is the best way to avoid pregnancy, but we know that abstinence only education is a miserable failure.
Most of the pics released were of people much younger than probably most people here, and the fact of the matter is that most high school aged kids probably take naked pics of themselves. Telling kids not to take naked pics of themselves is like our parents telling us not to look at porn online or go to chat rooms, which was like our grandparents telling out parents not to go to rock concerts and do acid (or roller derby or whatever it is people did).
Kids shouldn't be taking naked pics, true, but we'd be better served teaching people about phishing stacks, how to choose good passwords, and enabling 2 factor authentication... In the case of kids, maybe add 3 faftor authentication. 9/1/2014 5:06:08 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I always thought Kate Upton had a boxy/squarish body. After closely watching those sex tapes of her riding JV, I'm willing to admit that I was wrong. 9/1/2014 5:15:44 PM |
montclair All American 1372 Posts user info edit post |
whe is that video? 9/1/2014 6:43:21 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " i wouldn't feel sympathy for someone who had their window smashed and a diamond ring stolen off the seat. it was pretty stupid to leave it there.
however, i would still hope that the thief was caught and prosecuted." |
[NO]
You should be under obligation to hide or lock anything. When something gets stolen, the fault lies with the thief. This is why we have separate crimes for larceny and B&E; they're two separate wrongs.
Sure, it's dumb to leave yourself open to victimization, but it isn't wrong, and you're still deserving of sympathy.9/1/2014 6:43:53 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
the only point we disagree on is whether or not the person deserves sympathy and we all know that feelings don't matter and all that matters is whether or not the insurance company pays. 9/1/2014 6:48:18 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
white knights itt 9/1/2014 7:05:50 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
isn't that gymnast chick still underage? 9/1/2014 7:11:02 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
nope! 9/1/2014 7:20:40 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
^She was born on 9 December 1995, so she's not underage now but she could have been when that pic was taken.
also Quote : | "Why can feminists only look at the issue as black and white?" | because skywalkr has a strawman understanding of feminists9/1/2014 7:28:34 PM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
damn i picked the wrong time to not be able to see. <3 olivia munn 9/1/2014 8:50:15 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Holy fuck, it's joe motherfucking numbers. 9/1/2014 11:49:53 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
https://mega.co.nz/#!T0UExKxI!tTk4UKlSuDARepdMNz9MlDuXxWNeUIibO84tUXMFm80 9/2/2014 1:04:21 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148452 Posts user info edit post |
lol at the Import to your Cloud Drive option
isn't that how all of this started 9/2/2014 1:34:54 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
9/2/2014 1:56:39 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 2, 2014 at 3:41 AM. Reason : Fuckin phone]
9/2/2014 3:41:10 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 2, 2014 at 3:42 AM. Reason : >. <]
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joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
The Russians have them now 9/2/2014 3:41:10 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Long term I don't think much will come of this. I mean, most of them are just innocent boob shots which let's face it, only Americans get that uptight about boob shots. Maybe somebody like Upton or Jennifer Lawrence was holding out for a major magazine deal or photo op, but in the longrun there was nothing really bad about it that might damage or ruin a career. Hudson's actually looked very nice from an artistic perspective.
Everything that I just said I think is valid, except for those videos that were leaked of Jessica Brown Findlay. That girl had films of BJs and her getting dick slapped, plus saying a lot of comical-ish stuff that is reminiscent of what you would hear watching porn. I would be worried if I was her.
[Edited on September 2, 2014 at 7:38 AM. Reason : f] 9/2/2014 7:34:59 AM |
LimpyNuts All American 16859 Posts user info edit post |
I don't even know who most of these people are C- will not download.
And where is the hate for iCloud insecurity (cloud services in general), mirroring people's photos to the cloud without their knowledge or explicit consent (google enables this by default and harasses you every time you connect to WiFi if it is disabled, I don't know how it works in iOS), and retaining pictures in the cloud after they are deleted from your device. Each day I trust cloud services less and less. 9/2/2014 10:52:02 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it'd be like somebody bashing your front door down no matter how many locks you have on said door and stealing anything valuable from inside your house" |
using apple's cloud service isn't exactly equivalent to an unlimited number of locks on your door. it's actually the opposite of going out of your way to be secure.9/2/2014 10:57:55 AM |
LimpyNuts All American 16859 Posts user info edit post |
Even if it were outwardly secure it isn't encrypted, so anyone on the inside or in the NSA has seen all your shit anyway. 9/2/2014 11:02:32 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43411 Posts user info edit post |
At least they're celebrities. If someone spread nude, compromising photos all over the internet of a "normal" (i.e. girl next door) attractive woman she would probably lose her job. 9/2/2014 12:56:31 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Unless their boss was looking at porn probably not because no one would give two fucks about a normal person. 9/2/2014 1:43:30 PM |