BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Whoa, whoa, whoa...
At no point did I demonstrate ignorance of how to use order of operations in a simple math problem.
I would easily pass your shitty math class, hey now, and I'd be a real know-it-all bitch about it, too. 10/1/2014 9:56:20 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Had a kid ask me what negative meant today. 10/1/2014 10:02:01 PM |
dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
i was going to get defensive but then i realized I derped about multiplication so yea. i deserved that
in my defense i haven't slept like. at all.
[Edited on October 1, 2014 at 10:05 PM. Reason : NOT GETTING DEFENSIVE BUT IN MY DEFENSE YOU GUYS] 10/1/2014 10:04:54 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
It's ambiguous but 9 is the best answer 10/1/2014 10:12:32 PM |
beatsunc All American 10740 Posts user info edit post |
i suck as a math teacher. when trying to help my kid with 3rd grade math homework i would try to explain it using 7th grade math which was not very helpful.
all you got to do is divide both sides of both sides of the equation by 3! 10/1/2014 10:13:45 PM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
omg this is the most infuriating thread I have ever read 10/1/2014 10:24:44 PM |
dustm All American 14296 Posts user info edit post |
the plane takes off. 10/1/2014 10:36:26 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11085 Posts user info edit post |
In order for more than one number to be included in the numerator or denominator of a division operation they would need to be placed in parentheses.
Like (2+1)/(2*3) vs 2+1/2*3
So in this case for the answer to be 1 the equation would have to read 6/(2(1+2))=1
[Edited on October 1, 2014 at 11:01 PM. Reason : V lol durr] 10/1/2014 10:51:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148225 Posts user info edit post |
nominator? 10/1/2014 10:59:48 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
DAT 190% NOMINATOR 10/1/2014 11:04:29 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11085 Posts user info edit post |
I nominate TT to proof read my posts 10/1/2014 11:08:12 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
You say
"I'm doing my mathematics homework right now."
Not
"i'm doing my mathematic homework right now"
So the shortened for is "maths" not "math" 10/1/2014 11:13:49 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148225 Posts user info edit post |
"I'm Riting my Rithmetic homework"] 10/1/2014 11:22:42 PM |
mdozer73 All American 8005 Posts user info edit post |
6/2(1+2)=3(1+2)=3*1+3*2=3+6=9 10/2/2014 10:20:35 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's just an extra step that's unnecessary
there's no need to convert 6 divided by 2 into 6 times 0.5" |
This is one of the dumbest things I've read ITT. I don't think anyone, mentally, is going, "six times one half is 3", instead it's "six divided by 2 is 3" though neither is more difficult than the other, but the way it is written in any shape or form is (1/2). Pairing math down to basics of MDAS, you really only have M & A, with division being derived from multiplication of fractions and subtraction being addition of negatives. Thus in the most basic form is 6*(0.5)*(1+2) (maybe my typing of 1/2 erks you, I'll instead use the decimal form to adhere to the most basic form).10/2/2014 12:43:36 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
2008 called. It appears that you did not have permission to create this thread.
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 10/2/2014 1:59:31 PM |
dustm All American 14296 Posts user info edit post |
2008 was a rough year for me, so I'm not surprised. Now I'm just wondering which thing is coming back to bite me. 10/2/2014 6:14:35 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148225 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I don't care if you use 1/2 or 0.5. Neither is necessary. Why do you want to add an extra step to an easy math problem? 10/2/2014 6:19:20 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42535 Posts user info edit post |
wow... what a thread 10/2/2014 6:29:58 PM |
Smath74 All American 93277 Posts user info edit post |
9 10/2/2014 6:40:04 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42535 Posts user info edit post |
My Casio gives the correct answer... I suspect the pic in the OP is a fake pic. 10/2/2014 7:12:26 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
in high school, a friend of mine had a calculator with a broken 7 button. he always just typed in (3+4) for 7. i remember this very same calculator problem giving him trouble one time. 10/2/2014 8:53:11 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
FFS, just watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9h1oqv21Vs The Order of Operations is Wrong 10/2/2014 8:55:22 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
Itt why we need common core math standards... 10/2/2014 9:01:20 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
^^that video is fucking stupid
it says the "Order of Operations" as it is taught in schools would give you 8-2+1 = 5 because PEMDAS says add before you subtract
but when i was taught "order of operations" we were taught that multiplication and division were both done at once from left to right and addition and subtraction were done at once from left to right. if the teacher left that out, then you can't blame order of operations, just the teacher.
i mean, i kind of agree with the video's point that it's stupid to teach this mechanical order of operations method that replaces real understanding of how math works with a cookbook recipe for getting the correct answer, but you can't blame PEMDAS just because it wasn't taught right or you fucked it up.
[Edited on October 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM. Reason : afd] 10/2/2014 9:06:44 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Actually that is a good point. His description of what PEMDAS represents is incorrect. 10/2/2014 9:10:59 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
my teacher always wrote it out as PE(MD)(AS)
the order of operations isn't wrong, it's just not the best way to learn math if you want a true understanding of math. 10/2/2014 9:14:44 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You say
"I'm doing my mathematics homework right now."
Not
"i'm doing my mathematic homework right now"
So the shortened for is "maths" not "math"" |
[no]
Can you think of another example where you take the last letter of a word and add it to the end of the shortened version for no good reason?
You don't shorten refrigerator to fridger. Or Ammunition to ammon. Laboratory doesn't become Laby. So why would you add the last letter of mathematics to the end of the a shortened version of that word? Unless you're trying to preserve a plurality or something, but mathematics isn't plural so there's no reason to add an s. You don't say my favorite subject are mathematics, you say my favorite subject is mathematics. Therefore with no reason to pluralize the singular mathematics into multiple maths, and no other example of a word that I can think of to re-add the last letter of a word to its shortened version, the s simply shouldn't be there.
There are lots of places where the Brits say things differently from Americans and they can make claims that their way is correct and our way isn't, but this is most definitely not one of those times. There is no logical reason to say maths at all.]10/2/2014 9:45:44 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
...
You're completely right.
10/2/2014 10:26:05 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
'Merica! 10/2/2014 10:29:06 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148225 Posts user info edit post |
Did moron argue that "maths" was the proper thing to say? I figured the thread title was in jest. How does this guy earn top 6% income? 10/2/2014 10:54:34 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
I'll admit I'm over valued, but I'll ride that train as long as I can.
Also, I would never say math but I see why the British would... 10/2/2014 11:05:05 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'll admit I'm over valued, but I'll ride that train as long as I can." |
haha, awesome10/2/2014 11:35:55 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
Should have said "maths" in my last post. 10/2/2014 11:38:54 PM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
nobody should 10/3/2014 9:14:12 PM |
JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can you think of another example where you take the last letter of a word and add it to the end of the shortened version for no good reason?" |
sometimes we do this with people's names (using the letter "s" for that matter)
BubbleBobble="Bubs," for example]10/3/2014 9:40:06 PM |
Smath74 All American 93277 Posts user info edit post |
42 10/3/2014 10:14:50 PM |
beatsunc All American 10740 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it says the "Order of Operations" as it is taught in schools would give you 8-2+1 = 5 because PEMDAS says add before you subtract
but when i was taught "order of operations" we were taught that multiplication and division were both done at once from left to right and addition and subtraction were done at once from left to right. if the teacher left that out, then you can't blame order of operations, just the teacher." |
again. left to right or right to left should not make a difference
1 +(-2) + 8 = 710/4/2014 7:35:28 AM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
6/2(1+2)= 9.
Google does not lie.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=6/2(1%2B2) 10/4/2014 10:14:33 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sometimes we do this with people's names (using the letter "s" for that matter)
BubbleBobble="Bubs," for example" |
10/4/2014 11:42:06 PM |
JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
^ oh, wait, I just saw the phrase "last letter"
Quote : | "Can you think of another example where you take the last letter of a word and add it to the end of the shortened version for no good reason?" |
I thought my remark seemed pretty reasonable before that.
Umm...it seems "mathematics" was originally a plural
Quote : | "Origin late 16th century: plural of obsolete mathematic ‘mathematics,’ from Old French mathematique, from Latin (ars) mathematica ‘mathematical (art),’ from Greek mathematike (tekhne ), from the base of manthanein ‘learn.’" |
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mathematics+etymology
so the Brits are preserving the plural (even though it's obsolete).
Also, the rest of the English-speaking world says "maths" too; it's not just the British. Also, their form precedes ours, and it was sure as fuck correct speech before the term "math" appeared in the U.S.
In my book, there ain't a goddamned thing wrong with "maths."10/5/2014 12:45:56 AM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
You've always been wrong about most of your way of thinking, so it's no surprise you're wrong here too. 10/5/2014 12:50:05 AM |
JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
^ wow, you just totally demolished my argument 10/5/2014 12:51:25 AM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, are you not the guy who once wrote an article in the technician giving out tips on how to be a better drunk driver? And you said you wanted to fuck Michael Jackson's 12 year old (at the time) daughter. I'm just saying you're a pretty fucked up in the head type of guy.] 10/5/2014 12:55:03 AM |
JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
Of course I am...nobody's debating that.
But in this case, you're just raking up old skeletons rather than arguing the point in question.
Okay, fine. Carry on being [use]El Nachó[/user]. It's always nice running into you.] 10/5/2014 1:14:47 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42535 Posts user info edit post |
Good digging, JeffreyBSG, about the etymology of "mathematics".
Don't worry about the Cheese Nacho, he hates the world and everything in it, including himself. 10/5/2014 5:40:17 PM |
ShawnaC123 2019 Egg Champ 46681 Posts user info edit post |
Maths? What are you, British? Next thing you know, you're gonna be telling us about classes you took at Uni.
[Edited on October 5, 2014 at 7:18 PM. Reason : Actually I think that's Australian.] 10/5/2014 7:14:06 PM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
how much gash did you get and uni? 10/5/2014 7:45:37 PM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
that was supposed to say at not and 10/6/2014 12:51:04 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42535 Posts user info edit post |
---> 10/6/2014 1:37:16 AM |