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Klatypus
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must be true then

8/9/2016 8:56:09 AM

dtownral
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this guy shouldn't have said anything to the cops after he shot that guy

8/9/2016 9:53:52 AM

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^or before other than maybe i saw a group of people with a gun, prob a good idea to send someone

8/9/2016 9:55:32 AM

Klatypus
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"this guy shouldn't have said anything to the cops after he shot that guy"

8/9/2016 10:10:31 AM

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"In the recent past, we saw riots in Ferguson and Baltimore when police officers, who were parts of departments known for racist policing, killed unarmed people under nebulous circumstances; and the perception was that nothing would be done about it.

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The Baltimore riots were organized by city officials. There were rumors that kids were organizing at Mondawmin mall after school to "purge". Mondawmin mall is one of the busier locations in West Baltimore for kids transferring buses. Someone in the city requested MTA to shut down bus and subway operation for "safety" reasons, resulting in kids getting dropped off at the mall but not being transferred to their next stop. This effectively trapped kids there, whether they wanted to purge or not. The city had also sent riot police to the scene, but then followed up with an order to stand down to the trapped mob that was probably growing angrier and more startled due to the situation.

Whoever at the city made the request to shut down the MTA and followed that up with an order to riot police to do nothing / retreat to protect downtown was either wanting to orchestrate a riot or too incompetent for their job. The city has tried to blame the MTA shutdown on the school system and BPD, but a state agency isn't shutting down major transportation operations in a city without input directly from the mayor's office.

Raleigh isn't going to riot over some dumbass shooting out of his garage - they'll just lock him up for a long time and go back to business as normal.

8/9/2016 10:30:09 AM

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Riot? No.

But given how the races match the narrative, perhaps the DNC will send some paid protestors again?

8/9/2016 12:06:35 PM

dtownral
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you made bail pretty quick

8/9/2016 12:07:49 PM

JCE2011
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Wait a minute, are TWW SJWs paid by the DNC to post here?

8/9/2016 12:24:18 PM

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Yes, yes they are. Watch out man, they're coming for you!

8/9/2016 12:25:00 PM

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I'm nostalgic for the days in which B4C was just a clueless creep and not a blatant racist

8/9/2016 12:40:26 PM

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Those were the days.

8/9/2016 12:41:23 PM

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"Thomas had come to the neighborhood about 12:30 a.m. to attend a party two doors down from Copley’s house, according to a friend, David Walker of Raleigh. Walker, 20, said he and Thomas were among the last to arrive for the party and that he parked his Ford Taurus behind “a string of cars.”

Walker said he and Thomas weren’t invited and were waiting for someone to give them permission to come inside the home when someone they knew told them, “Bro, it ain’t no girls.”

“If there were no girls there, we figured we might as well go back home,” he said.

Walker said Thomas saw what he thought were police lights. He said his friend wanted to avoid a confrontation because “he had a little weed on him,” so he took off running toward Walker’s Taurus.

“I’m looking at him running the whole time,” Walker said Monday. “I yelled at him, ‘We good now, stop running.’ He turned his head back to me, and that’s when a shot went off. We didn’t know that it came from the house. We were all looking around like, who got a gun?”"


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"Jordan Lewis, 16, who lives at the home where the party was held, said about 50 people attended the function, with about half the people inside the home and another 25 or so milling about in the front yard. Walker said when he and Thomas arrived, the street was quiet.

“It was silent,” Walker said. “No fighting and no arguing and no one waving guns.”"


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"Police say Copley fired at Thomas from inside his garage. Monday afternoon, glass lay in the driveway and front lawn where the blast apparently came through the window."


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"Copley was denied bail by Croom, who wished the man “good luck” before sheriff’s deputies led him out of the courtroom."


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article94248182.html#storylink=cp

8/9/2016 3:49:50 PM

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"Walker said Thomas saw what he thought were police lights. He said his friend wanted to avoid a confrontation because “he had a little weed on him,” so he took off running toward Walker’s Taurus.
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sounds like pretty good response time for RPD if the lights were from the initial 911 call.

$5 lafta bucks says the drug screening on the shooter comes back positive for amphetamines.

[Edited on August 9, 2016 at 4:23 PM. Reason : not toxicology]

8/9/2016 4:10:46 PM

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So let me get this straight, he fired a 'warning' shot (according to some law lol) ... if you fired a warning shot you were not in any real danger amirite?

8/9/2016 7:53:43 PM

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^I feel like you could be in danger and still have time or the inclination to fire a warning shot. But I'm commenting strictly on what you said and not on whether warning shots are valid or anything like that as I don't know shit about NC gun laws.

8/9/2016 7:57:04 PM

seedless
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OK, by that logic he should have fired two shots.

8/9/2016 8:09:56 PM

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"I'm nostalgic for the days in which B4C was just a clueless creep and not a blatant racist"


I'm not a racist. I just know what the press and rioters like to do. Like someone mentioned though, the shooter was arrested and will probably get what he deserves, so there is no need for black people to riot. This story is boring.

8/9/2016 8:39:37 PM

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Here we go...
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/09/us/raleigh-north-carolina-man-shoots-african-american-outside-home-911-calls/index.html

8/9/2016 8:55:31 PM

Big4Country
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^Yep!

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"Thomas is African-American. Copley is white."

8/9/2016 8:58:18 PM

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https://www.gofundme.com/276hhgks

50 stacks!

8/9/2016 9:01:06 PM

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No one is going to riot unless this guy gets out of a murder charge.

This guy deserves to prosecuted for 1st degree murder. He had every intention of shooting someone.

8/9/2016 9:01:12 PM

Big4Country
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^Agreed, but it looks like the press is starting to do their part by mentioning a white person shot a black person while failing to mention that the dead one had a criminal record.

[Edited on August 9, 2016 at 9:10 PM. Reason : .]

8/9/2016 9:09:02 PM

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What does the criminal record have to do with anything?

8/9/2016 9:13:35 PM

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BUT HEY GUYZ, I MEAN, I'M NOT RACIST, I'M JUST POINTING OUT HE WAS A CRIMINAL

TOTALLY NOT RACIST GUYZ, JUST... YOU KNOW... BLACK PEOPLE, AM I RITE?!

8/9/2016 9:19:27 PM

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"What does the criminal record have to do with anything?"


Nothing. Big4Country is as dim-witted as they come.

8/9/2016 9:20:47 PM

Big4Country
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^^^Well by mentioning that the police had come to the shooters house in the past and failing to mention that the dead guy had a criminal record, it makes him look like an angel and the shooter the devil. I guess it is Fox News' turn to write the article making the dead guy look like the devil and telling everyone not to rush to judgement on the shooter.




[Edited on August 9, 2016 at 9:23 PM. Reason : .]

8/9/2016 9:21:52 PM

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fascinating

8/9/2016 9:22:51 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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The only way a riot is happening in Raleigh is if State wins a national title ever again, so never.

8/9/2016 9:25:19 PM

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Did B4C just post on their GoFundMe page??


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

8/9/2016 9:27:01 PM

Big4Country
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^^Not True, if Trump stops in we could maybe have one.

^No

[Edited on August 9, 2016 at 9:27 PM. Reason : .]

8/9/2016 9:27:21 PM

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"In lieu of flowers please donate monetary donations."



$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

8/9/2016 9:28:04 PM

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Dear Big4Country



xoxo,
EMCE

[Edited on August 9, 2016 at 9:32 PM. Reason : Oo]

8/9/2016 9:30:53 PM

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WARNING SPOILER ALERT






MOST FAMILIES AREN'T FINANCIALLY PREPARED FOR THE DEATH OF A 20 YEAR OLD.







/SHOCKER

8/9/2016 9:32:10 PM

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"It begins when a man calls police from Copley's two-story single-family home to report "a bunch of hoodlums out here racing."

"I am locked and loaded," he tells the dispatcher. "I'm going outside to secure my neighborhood. You need to send PD as quickly as possible.""


Since when can you "secure" a neighborhood? Anyone can use public streets.

8/9/2016 9:35:35 PM

Big4Country
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^Yeah it sounds a little like Barney Fife making a big deal out of nothing.

8/9/2016 9:42:17 PM

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http://www.wral.com/family-of-slain-raleigh-man-hires-high-profile-civil-rights-lawyer/15914976/

8/9/2016 11:52:22 PM

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Damn you gotta dig deep into that article to get the name of said attorney.

8/10/2016 12:00:10 AM

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So if you sue a police department you know you will get paid, the local government can find the money to pay ir their insurance will. What happens if you sue a private citizen for something that happens on their property? Will the homeowners insurance cover a murder or accidental shooting? I don't think the copleys are the kind of people to have hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting around.

8/10/2016 9:39:21 AM

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"Yeah it sounds a little like Barney Fife making a big deal out of nothing."


NBD just murdered a guy from inside the safety of my house

8/10/2016 9:54:55 AM

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Any concealed carry class instructor or law enforcement official will tell you that you never point your weapon at someone or fire a shot unless you plan to use deadly force and you must absolutely feel like your life is in immediate danger. The concept of a "warning shot" is absurd. It'd get you thrown in jail in a heartbeat.

The only justified situation I've heard similar to this is basically someone standing outside your door or window threatening to bust in and kill your or your family. Basically someone on a drug-fueled rage or otherwise unstable/pissed off.

Based on all accounts, this homeowner seems to be reckless and quick-tempered. Perhaps other facts will come to light, but at this point I have a hard time understanding how this situation should have cost this young man his life.

8/10/2016 9:58:27 AM

scotieb24
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^^He is calling the shooter Barney Fife saying he made a big deal out of the kids just being in the street

8/10/2016 9:59:06 AM

justinh524
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yeah i know.

i just think we need to keep pointing out that this dude killed a guy while hiding in his house.

[Edited on August 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM. Reason : but the victim had a criminal record!]

8/10/2016 9:59:56 AM

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Yeah this sucks. We have large gatherings at my house and cars wrap around the neighborhood like what is explained by one of the witnesses. I could easily see a situation where some of my friends went back to their car to get something and could be seen as hanging out in front of someone's house. Hopefully there are no crazies that close to my house.

8/10/2016 10:04:38 AM

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""Police say Copley fired at Thomas from inside his garage. Monday afternoon, glass lay in the driveway and front lawn where the blast apparently came through the window.""


So the garage door was closed and he shot through the glass?

8/10/2016 10:09:09 AM

justinh524
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yes. self defense tho.

8/10/2016 10:12:19 AM

scotieb24
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^^ Yeah that is the #1 thing making it seem like an open and shut case.

^


[Edited on August 10, 2016 at 10:15 AM. Reason : .]

8/10/2016 10:13:34 AM

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8/10/2016 10:17:03 AM

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What an idiot.

8/10/2016 11:50:47 AM

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I'm no law man or nothing, but ain't ur warning shots supposed to go up and not out?

8/10/2016 12:07:19 PM

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damn this is in my cousin's neighborhood. Massey Preserve. a lot of young families there. at least on his street the neighbors are all close friends and they have a lot of cook outs and stuff.

8/10/2016 12:20:54 PM

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