JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so wait, president Trump is a taste of reality?" |
When you live in an echo-chamber (college, media, social circle, social media) you are brainwashed to believe everything is framed as liberal (good) vs conservative (evil). These precious special snowflakes are so ill-equipped to deal with differing viewpoints, that a Trump presidency has devastated their fragile emotional state. That's why we see the delusional, polarized response we do on social media:
I view my liberal opinion as: Love, think of the children, feelings, I care, look at how much I care, validate me *virtue-signal*
Anything that disagrees with my liberal opinion is: Hate, ____phobia, ____ism, hitler, etc.11/10/2016 2:12:36 AM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Dems/Libs shouldn't be mad at people who voted for Trump. They should be mad at the Democratic institution for stealing the show from Bernie and giving it to a terribly unlikable and out of touch vapid cunt. Bernie beats Trump every time. 11/10/2016 8:53:32 AM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " When you live in an echo-chamber (college, media, social circle, social media) you are brainwashed to believe everything is framed as liberal (good) vs conservative (evil). These precious special snowflakes are so ill-equipped to deal with differing viewpoints, that a Trump presidency has devastated their fragile emotional state. That's why we see the delusional, polarized response we do on social media:
I view my liberal opinion as: Love, think of the children, feelings, I care, look at how much I care, validate me *virtue-signal*
Anything that disagrees with my liberal opinion is: Hate, ____phobia, ____ism, hitler, etc." |
sure I guess you can see it that way
[Edited on November 10, 2016 at 8:59 AM. Reason : but I would disagree that everyone is as sheep-minded as you imply, or are just liberals sheep?]11/10/2016 8:56:50 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you are brainwashed to believe everything is framed as liberal (good) vs conservative (evil)." |
You understand conservatives live in that same echo-chamber...don't you?11/10/2016 9:17:00 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
See, I try to argue with dems that she didn't lose because she was a woman but then shit like this gets thrown around and it conflagrates my argument.11/10/2016 6:24:00 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I think Earl has non-ironically become a Trump supporter in the past 2 days 11/10/2016 6:49:11 PM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
The past two days have legit turned me from slighting wanting hillary to win to being excited for presient trump because of all the whining 11/10/2016 6:58:51 PM |
fatcatt316 All American 3798 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Trump isn't Hitler. Trump is Silvio Burlesconi. Populist billionaire tycoon who was considered a joke until he won.
Then he made his country into the joke." |
11/12/2016 9:37:06 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yeah i think the premature protesting and whining and handholding is having the opposite intended effect for most of the country. 11/12/2016 9:13:11 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzRTb5WwfaA 11/12/2016 9:28:29 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19618 Posts user info edit post |
Chapel Hill is of the opinion that Chancellor Palpatine was elected and the Stormtroopers will be descending upon us momentarily.
I also love that anything that could have a racial/sexual/ethnic undertone in the last week is directly attributed to Trump. Like the KKK that was in Mebane. For all the snark about how the Right was lapping up the false news about Obama for the last few years, my coworkers and neighbors are want to believe anything reported by anybody that is negative about Trump or his possible supporters, hook line and sinker. 11/12/2016 11:39:39 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
What would have happened if trump won the popular vote but lost the electoral college? 11/13/2016 1:03:33 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148222 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure a woman getting elected would cause so much more outrage then a black dude getting elected 8 years ago.
[Edited on November 13, 2016 at 1:12 AM. Reason : The KKK was dormant 8 years ago] 11/13/2016 1:11:59 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
That's not the point. Would trump supporters accept defeat in this situation?
People have been butt hurt for 8 years so that's not even a question.
[Edited on November 13, 2016 at 1:25 AM. Reason : Evennnnn] 11/13/2016 1:25:04 AM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah i think the premature protesting and whining and handholding is having the opposite intended effect for most of the country. " |
I doubt it. If people can get over the KKK marching in support of Trump, they can get over regular people marching against Trump.
Not to mention, by a HUGE margin, Trump is literally the most unpopular, untrustworthy, inexperienced, unfit person to ever be elected president (per national polls on the issue). He is expected to lose the popular vote by 1-2% points, his total vote count is lower than Romney's at this point.
If you were reading about this election in another country, you would completely understand why people would be wanting to protest.11/13/2016 2:53:33 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19618 Posts user info edit post |
If the situation had been reversed though, Repubs and Trumpers would have complained and bitched, but they would not have protested. 11/13/2016 7:55:10 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Posting drudge report articles on Facebook so your grandkids can comment before you go to bingo night at the rotary club is still protesting. 11/13/2016 9:14:05 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19618 Posts user info edit post |
Does that impede people getting to work? Does that damage private property? No, it just clutters my Facebook feed, which I can easily filter so I don't have to see that shit. 11/13/2016 9:34:01 AM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG0wQRsXLi4 11/13/2016 12:03:04 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37515 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If the situation had been reversed though, Repubs and Trumpers would have complained and bitched, but they would not have protested." |
[Edited on November 13, 2016 at 12:37 PM. Reason : Rrr]11/13/2016 12:35:34 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Arguing about whether or not Trump supporters would have hypothetically protested is easily one of the most simple-minded preoccupations to emerge from this debacle. 11/13/2016 2:53:39 PM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
Would you expect anything else? 11/13/2016 4:02:05 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I forgot about all the riots that happened when Romney lost in 2012.
The DNC has been caught sending their interns to protest/riot, Soros has been caught bussing-in protesters/rioters, paying people to protest (craigslist adds). Not to mention the liberal media in general loves misrepresenting any outrage-creating racial "issues" that lead to riots. Combine that with #BLM demanding the release of it's members arrested for violently rioting...
I mean it isn't even close to compare. Violent rioting is kind of ya'lls thing. Its what happens when you convince the gullible masses they are oppressed victims and a racist orange hitler is going to send them to gas chambers. 11/13/2016 10:33:45 PM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
gonna debunk myself here: hot FUCK does it feel good to rub it in.
Okay thats it, time to destroy corruption..
oh wait. you don't WANT corruption to go away.
Then HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHA 11/13/2016 10:52:11 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
^^ your argument totally falls apart since you're failing to consider all those fired up Trumpsters who swore up and down that the election was rigged, and promised to riot as a result if he lost.
[Edited on November 14, 2016 at 12:27 AM. Reason : .] 11/14/2016 12:27:12 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
It's definitely hard to say how things would have turned out if Clinton had won. However, it is pretty ironic/hypocritical that they kept drilling Trump about accepting the election results if he lost and then when Hillary loses this is what her supporters do. 11/14/2016 11:40:55 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89740 Posts user info edit post |
I thought that was directed at Donald Trump himself, not his supporters. So, would Donald Trump accept the outcome of the election, or would he not. Hillary Clinton conceded in a phone call to Donald Trump on election night... 11/14/2016 11:58:23 AM |
afripino All American 11374 Posts user info edit post |
^^the people who are rioting aren't exactly the same people that wanted him to accept the election results. or are all Hillary supporters the same? we can certainly make that assertion for Trump supporters too if you'd like.
[Edited on November 14, 2016 at 11:58 AM. Reason : ] 11/14/2016 11:58:36 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ your argument totally falls apart since you're failing to consider all those fired up Trumpsters who swore up and down that the election was rigged, and promised to riot as a result if he lost. " |
A hypothetical republican riot is the best you've got?
Against the: -DNC interns posing as protesters -Craigslist adds paying people to protest Trump -Soros funding #BLM and bussing in protestors -The liberal media/democrats race baiting anytime a black man is shot -That very race baiting leading to the riots in Charlotte, Baltimore, Ferguson -#BLM demanding jailed rioters to be released -No democrats speaking out against the current riots
I think my argument is holding up just fine. And yes, the irony of Clinton supporters claiming Trump wouldn't support an election result is hilarious.11/14/2016 12:34:11 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
It's not, actually. Many Trump supporters have come out of the woodwork to intimidate minorities, and some have even vandalized property and assaulted people. I know you want to ignore this, but there's plenty of evidence out there.
You're also ignoring the fact that Hillary won the popular vote by a margin that seems to be growing everyday.
But whatever man. I hope you enjoy the outcome of Trump's victory. He's waffling all over the place right now like he'll have to do throughout his presidency.
[Edited on November 14, 2016 at 12:47 PM. Reason : .] 11/14/2016 12:46:35 PM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
^^Clinton supporters have not really had to "claim" Trump wouldn't support the results. He actually came out and said it himself. 11/14/2016 12:58:51 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
^^ the popular vote argument is one of the stupidest ones out there. We don't vote in a system where popular vote matters so you can't act like it does. If we switched from electoral college to popular vote you think that we would see the same voter turnout? There are plenty of people in deep red or deep blue states on both sides that don't bother to vote because it is pointless (at least at the Presidential level). 11/14/2016 1:18:07 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
^ it does matter, it's very rare of the popular vote to split with the EC vote, and when this happens, it creates a dynamic where the majority of the people in the country don't support the president's ideologies.
This has an impact on political strategy across the board. It's not just "oh well, this guy's president now". The whole point of a democracy is representation, and 1/3 of our government doesn't represent the people now.
Last time this happened, we got the iraq war and housing bubble, we can't let this happen again. 11/14/2016 1:53:49 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Except it doesn't matter because it won't change a damn thing 11/14/2016 2:04:16 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
The only reason why people are saying it's no big deal Hillary lost the EC but won the popular vote is because their guy conveniently 'won' by an outdated and archaic system. I've been against the EC since I was in high school, since I figured out pretty quickly that it's a dumb way to pick the president.
And even if Hillary won, I'd still be saying the same damn thing. The two party system is fundamentally broken in America. Plenty of other first world democracies are laughing at us again, while they have reasonable and practical ways to elect their leaders. I'd love it if the US had 3-5 parties to represent its diverse citizenty, because none of them on their own would be strong enough to get anything done. The two party system works against each other, whereas coalitions have no choice but to work with each other to produce results.
But go ahead and carry on with the logic that the EC is working when it isn't. I'm just going to sit back and watch everything get ripped apart sooner or later.
[Edited on November 14, 2016 at 2:08 PM. Reason : .] 11/14/2016 2:07:44 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
That isn't my point at all 11/14/2016 2:32:39 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
You don't really have a clear point, so I'm not sure what to say. If Trump had won the popular vote by millions of votes and Hillary won the EC, you're suggesting no rioting would take place. Given his rhetoric and his supporters, I call absolute horseshit. 11/14/2016 3:21:49 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
I have a very clear point but considering you think California should exit the union is a good idea I guess I shouldn't expect too much out of you 11/14/2016 3:24:15 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
I think the Electoral College needs to be abolished and also think California should secede, especially if nothing is done to overhaul the election system in this country. The two aren't mutually exclusive ideas. So far your rebuttals are just to keep things the way they are because AMERICA. 11/14/2016 3:45:33 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
No they haven't, I actually never said anything of the sort 11/14/2016 4:40:31 PM |
DROD900 All American 24653 Posts user info edit post |
while I don't necessarily disagree that the system needs to be tweaked, any changes that are made need to be for future elections. I personally think Trump is completely unfit to run the country, and openly admit I voted for Hillary, but all these people trying to get the results of this election changed need to learn how to take the L and give it a rest. If, somehow, the system was changed and Clinton became president, this country would absolutely implode. 11/14/2016 4:46:59 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
^ the system shouldn't be changed for this election, the EC should operate as it always has been, trump is president.
But going forward, we'd be better off without an EC. It would require politicians to be more centrist and help give an actual chance to 3rd parties. We'd need an instant-runoff/ranked type of voting system, but I think it would unquestionably give us better candidates, better rhetoric, reduce polarization, and give us better presidents. 11/14/2016 5:08:39 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
HEY LOOK AT ME! I CAN'T ACCEPT A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PERSON I DISAGREE WITH! I SHOULD LET GEORGE SOROS BUS ME AROUND THE COUNTRY AND WHINE ABOUT IT, THEN COMPLAIN THAT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS UNFAIR. 11/14/2016 7:45:52 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
I never said anything about over turning the results from this election. I just hope something like this never happens again. 11/14/2016 7:53:20 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
Is this more or less pathetic than winning AND STILL bitching about fraud.
This is rhetorical. You suck. 11/14/2016 7:53:42 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
^^ something like what? 11/14/2016 8:29:04 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
Having a presidential race decided by an ineffectual electoral college. It's not a partisan at all for me. It's a practicality issue. 11/14/2016 8:40:49 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
you like baseball? 11/14/2016 8:43:34 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's not, actually. Many Trump supporters have come out of the woodwork to intimidate minorities, and some have even vandalized property and assaulted people. I know you want to ignore this, but there's plenty of evidence out there. " |
There is not much evidence out there, there are just tweets and accusations that go viral with no actual evidence. For the cases with actual records, they can be debunked:
http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/woman-faces-criminal-charges-after-falsely-claiming-trump-supporters-attacked-her/351046672
It's amazing how the MSM and Soros dollars can create such a convincing narrative that Trump voters are the violent ones. Honestly you are still going with this bullshit narrative as Clinton voters RIOT and the DNC was CAUGHT paying hobos to START VIOLENCE. Some troll or hate crime hoaxer will draw a swastika with "vote Trump" in a bathroom stall and it will be on the front page of HuffPost for you gullible morons. Yet we all know what would happen to someone wearing a Trump shirt walking in the wrong neighborhood.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+supporter+attacked
The "which side is violent" argument is the best example of how brainwashed leftists are. One side has overwhelming evidence but no mainstream media coverage, the other side has a few anecdotal cases (half of which are hoaxes) and 100% of the media attention.11/14/2016 11:16:11 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
I thought libtards were weenies?
Or are they violent?
What's the narrative again?
Also lots of Soros name dropping going on here. Are people butthurt that he has almost 20 billion dollars more than trump or that he's Hungarian? 11/15/2016 6:28:35 AM |