well there you go BubbleBobble, it looks like if you don't have a facebook account all about why looking at child porn should be okay under a really lazy pseudonym, you're probably fine

12/17/2016 4:14:30 PM

Well. This is the craziest thing I've heard this week.

Guy had that bitcoins fortune.

12/17/2016 4:15:31 PM

think we just found out where he spent said bitcoins

12/17/2016 4:18:37 PM

god dang these facebook posts are something else.

12/17/2016 4:37:38 PM

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=598554&page=1#14145372

"Rare porn"
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=603478&page=1#14342935

"Certain types of porn"
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=604901&page=1#14402757

"So what if people post pedophile porn"
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=605513&page=1#14433503

Thankful new porn will always be produced for him
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=618511&page=1#14991658

Trying to destroy drives from mid 90s because he was being investigated
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=619712

I didn't go through the rest but this guy was sick

12/17/2016 4:53:45 PM

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"think we just found out where he spent said bitcoins"

[Edited on December 17, 2016 at 5:01 PM. Reason : shit man, all the warning signs.]

12/17/2016 5:00:48 PM

^^ He was speaking code in those posts fishing for friendlies.

Wow this is nuts.

12/17/2016 5:19:01 PM

fuck yeah all the warning signs were there. He might as well have been wearing a pedobear necklace.

12/17/2016 5:19:18 PM

So, is qntm going to be served up a warrant for all tww logs?

12/17/2016 5:26:46 PM

qntmfred with the server

12/17/2016 5:35:46 PM

Quote :

"well there you go BubbleBobble, it looks like if you don't have a facebook account all about why looking at child porn should be okay under a really lazy pseudonym, you're probably fine"

is there any way you could stop with all this or what

12/17/2016 10:48:25 PM

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"glad i'm not the only one who picked up on that"

wtf are you guys talking about?

fuck off

12/17/2016 10:49:21 PM

all I said was I stick to anime chicks (just in case a girl is illegal but doesn't look like she is)

I don't look up that kind of shit, and I'd appreciate it if you guys would quit accusing me, 'cause it's a kind of serious accusation based on nothing

12/17/2016 10:50:50 PM

damn you nervous

12/17/2016 10:55:46 PM

real nervous

nah but ease up on dat brah, I'm not into that

kinda into azns ;3 LOL

but as I was telling emcee, my medications pretty much prevent boners now and it's pretty awful, so looking up pr0n is pretty much a moot point anyway

it's kinda depressing really

12/17/2016 10:59:51 PM

W T F

12/17/2016 11:46:12 PM

well then

12/18/2016 12:11:43 AM

You know, I always figured a different TWW user would be the one arrested on child porn charges. Hell, 2 other users. Damnit, got a 3rd one in mind now, too.


Also, his rants on child pron laws aren't exactly wrong. They're not right, but there's a sliver of a valid point in there. I know the logic behind the laws he was bitching about, but still... But srsly, fuck people who like child porn.

12/18/2016 1:14:11 AM

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"CHILD PRON LAWS"

sorry guys just trying to lighten the mood

12/18/2016 1:17:33 AM

lol. it was bound to happen.

12/18/2016 1:27:01 AM

Clearly the guy is suffering from mental illness. Posting all about his affinity for child porn had to be a giant red flag for investigators

12/18/2016 1:45:28 AM

Pretty sure the posting of actual child porn was the red flag for investigators...

[Edited on December 18, 2016 at 1:57 AM. Reason : But gg backing up his stupid fucking child porn arguments Burro. I'm fucking *shocked*]

12/18/2016 1:54:52 AM

I'm not backing up anything about child porn. I'm saying that he had a point that banning the consumption of an item is stupid (which is ultimately his point), even for an item as disgusting as kiddie porn. You can't ban demand. Prohibition and the drug war prove that. Instead, you ban the distribution (which I'm sure he was doing, so fuck him), and when you find consumers you get them mental health services.

12/18/2016 9:10:32 AM

Yeah, because consuming illegal moonshine and 'consuming' child porn are exactly the same thing. Producing one is more than likely a victimless crime, the other, by definition, involves a child victim. Wonderful false analogy there.

12/18/2016 10:58:37 AM

What's this about child pron?

What kind of person jerks off to baby shrimp?

12/18/2016 11:49:09 AM

^^ Consuming, yes. No one other than the consumer is harmed by the mere consumption. Producing it, as you pointed out, is a totally different ballgame. I made that exact distinction. I don't know what "false analogy" you are talking about, but experience proves time and time again that banning demand does absolutely nothing to curb demand. If you'd like to show any evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.

12/18/2016 1:20:27 PM

Consumption is not done in a vacuum and increases demand. That's basic economics, unless you want to show me an example of where increased consumption does not lead to increased demand.

As for examples of laws on consumption reducing demand, that's easy, look at alcohol consumption for minors in the US compared to Europe.

12/18/2016 1:41:09 PM

I'd argue that consumption and demand are the same thing.
And I take issue with your example of minor alcohol consumption. There are most certainly bans on minors consuming alcohol, but there also laws banning the supply, too. Any analysis on the differences between the US and Europe must take that into account. I'd argue that US bans on consumption alone in this case have a negligible effect on curbing the desire of people under the age of 21 to consume alcohol. It's anecdotal, but I didn't see anyone in high school or college freaking out about "OMG, it's illegal for me to drink." They just shifted their behavior into not getting caught. The same is largely true for possession bans regarding drugs. People just get smarter about hiding their drugs.

12/18/2016 1:47:25 PM

I mean, if you take exception with that, you'll take exception with everything as there are no examples of things that are illegal to consume but legal to supply to that same population.

However, I'm glad you agree that consumption is demand. An increase in demand increases production, correct? So you're fine with an increase in demand for child porn which would increase the production of it?

[Edited on December 18, 2016 at 1:54 PM. Reason : a]

12/18/2016 1:53:52 PM

holy shit!! wtf! What a sick bastard!

And shit man, now the feds are gonna be up on this site. I mean, the NSA has always been reading it, but now the FBI (again). Hi Mr/Mrs FBI person.

12/18/2016 2:38:48 PM

^^ smoking? Illegal to sell to or for minors to buy, but legal for them to smoke if they have possession.. Maybe?

12/18/2016 5:28:38 PM

If that's the case, then you can look at teen smoking rates where there are no bans on buying (Czech Republic is at 37% https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15068206) and places where there are bans (US is at 2.3% https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/youth_data/tobacco_use/)

So yeah, I think laws on consumption are clearly working

more papers
http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/11/3/252.full
http://www.tobaccoinaustralia.org.au/chapter-1-prevalence/1-13-international-comparisons-of-prevalence-of-sm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_age (reference for smoking age)

You can continue to break down youth smoking rates in the US in states where there is both a consumption and buying ban vs just a buying a ban.



[Edited on December 18, 2016 at 6:00 PM. Reason : a]

12/18/2016 5:50:25 PM

12/18/2016 6:01:25 PM

i just

12/18/2016 6:27:02 PM

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"However, I'm glad you agree that consumption is demand. An increase in demand increases production, correct? So you're fine with an increase in demand for child porn which would increase the production of it?"

I would argue that supply exists because there is demand. But banning the demand doesn't actually get rid of the demand. Again, our drug laws basically prove this fact. You've still not provided any evidence that a ban on demand affects demand in any appreciable way. The Czech Republic verses the US example is about as apples to walnuts a comparison as you can get. For fuck's sake, you compared a place where it's legal to BUY verses a place where it's NOT legal to BUY. Hell, CR can barely get an anti-smoking law passed. Your CR study is from 2004, while your US number is from 2015. You used the US middle school numbers for smoking only, and then ignored the high school numbers for overall tobacco usage which is at 25% (middle school is 7%). You're also ignoring the e-cigg usage, which is about as dishonest as you can get when talking about nicotine usage. They smoke in restaurants in the CR, we largely don't. The US has massive anti-smoking campaigns in schools and in the media; I can't find too much evidence for that in the CR. Do I need to continue?

Basically, you are ignoring every single economic reality about the demand for cigarettes and are then declaring that consumption bans are working on their own. The actual facts don't bear that out. Even if I take your absurd CR comparison, US high school usage of all tobacco products is at 25% while smoking among the same age group is at 37% in the CR. I don't see a marked improvement there worth bragging about. Both are abysmal, and the US improvement is easily explained by anti-smoking campaigns and anti-purchase laws.

Considering that your whole premise is that by reducing demand you can reduce production, the argument you presented falls flat on its face unless you can show that banning demand reduces demand by any appreciable amount. I'd say your CR vs US example shows pretty much the opposite at this point.

As for US states with smoking bans vs states without them, be sure to include in those numbers the prevalence of anti-smoking campaigns funded by the respective states. Also include substitution for other products which make it easier to conceal tobacco usage. Basically, apply an actual economic analysis of all the factors involved instead of a naive first glance at smoking numbers alone.



Having said all that, my suggestion for people caught viewing child porn is not to arrest them and throw them in jail. It's to seize their computers, find the suppliers, and go after the suppliers, while mandating therapy for the viewers. THAT deals with the actual issue at hand, which is the actual existence of the demand in the first place. Remove the demand by fixing the underlying issues in that person's head. Just like you don't cure an addict by making his addiction illegal and throwing him in jail; instead, you send him to rehab and help him get clean.

12/18/2016 7:06:32 PM

And on that person's second and third offense of watching child porn? Just send to more therapy? I mean, I'm all for therapy, but you can accomplish that in a jail.

[Edited on December 18, 2016 at 7:28 PM. Reason : a]

12/18/2016 7:27:07 PM

The massive gaping hole in your logic, aaronburro, is that you seem to believe there is some blazing red line between suppliers of child pornography and consumers of child pornography like there is for cigarettes or alcohol.


There is not.

To represent the situation as such is a fundamental mistruth.

The supply of child porn exists because of consumers who are willing to produce it. It is a closed loop economy. At the center of it is a helpless child who has been raped and will be damaged for life.

Stop trying to split hairs and find a narrow semantic view here - this shit is fucked up, kids get hurt, and there is no micro or macroeconomic similarity to economies of indulgence where consumers choose to self-harm.

12/18/2016 8:30:06 PM

wait so aaronburro is a pedo too?

12/18/2016 10:48:16 PM

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"I'm not backing up anything about child porn."

False. As I said, you're backing up GeniusXPedo's consumption-based arguments when it comes to child porn. And post after fucking post ITT you're continuing to back up his arguments. You can keep using words like "sliver" and keep condemning people who "actually" like child porn, but you're completely parroting his FB arguments ITT.

But yeah. Keep on equating the production of weed and tobacco to the production of fucking child porn. You'll go far ITT with those hot fucking takes.

[Edited on December 19, 2016 at 12:15 AM. Reason : ok, i'll be nice. your thinking on this issue is fundamentally fucked by equating it to drugs. they are not even remotely equatable]

12/19/2016 12:07:39 AM

There are probably people who only consume it, but I ain't buying that someone who posted about it on facebook multiple times never also distributed it

12/19/2016 7:04:45 AM

Watched Pervert Park on Netflix last night. Pretty disturbing about a trailer park where sex offenders live in Fla. A halfway house type community. They really seem to throw the book at these guys though, and rightfully so. I bet GeniusXboy will do some prison time. TWW might not even exist when he gets out.

12/19/2016 8:47:30 AM

I'm interested in playing the what if game. First, I'd like to go on the record that I believe raping young women to produce porn for mentally struggling neck beards is deplorable.

Are there any situations here that would make you feel bad for GeniuSxBoY? For the sake of argument, what if the porn he possessed and distributed happens to be of women who are 17 years and 11 months old? While I'm most certain that is not the case, if so, would many of you consider what he did still disgusting by that definition?

If so, is it the act of ownership sufficient to make that call or intent to view someone minutes, hours, or days away from being 18 or under sufficient? I ask because I suspect that anyone who has watched a fair number of amateur porn videos has incidentally seen a consenting person under the age of 18 who was engaging in behavior of a pornographic nature. Even more so certain if that person has an asian fetish.

I think the real issue here is one of consent. Any case in which the person is being forced to produce pornographic acts on film, whether that person be 8, 18, 48, or 80, should be illegal (is actually) and if a consumer knowingly watches it and contributes to it's production (by demand or otherwise) should be charged equally as they are for child pornography.

On the other side of the coin, at what age could a person reasonably execute consent? If a 17 or 16 year old boy who bangs his 33 year old teach, decides to and agrees to film said banging, and then passes the video on to his friends should that be labeled child pornography? There are clearly many levels of consent there, so they weren't being taken advantage of. If the same male committed a murder they very possibly could be tried as an adult, especially if they were black. They can be an adult behind a gun but not an adult when they just as cognizant to put themselves on film for the world to see? If this were the video that GeniuSxBoY possessed, should he still be charged?

Again I imagine that none of this is the case for this TWW alum, but if it were would you feel different about his case?

12/19/2016 8:51:17 AM

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"raping young women to produce porn"

not always women

Quote :

"On the other side of the coin, at what age could a person reasonably execute consent?"

It's kind of sad the age now is 18. An 18 year old is legally an adult and looks like an adult but I'd argue that they're not mentally mature in many ways and are often still in high school at that age. Doing porn is something that follows you.

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"Again I imagine that none of this is the case for this TWW alum, but if it were would you feel different about his case?"

no and I don't think the FBI is after people that accidentally come across material accidentally / falsely advertised / or where you could reasonably they were 18+. my guess is he knew, he purposefully sought it out, had a good amount of it on his computer, shared it, and probably participated in some other seedy shit around it like forums or whatever dark net groups in order to get it.

12/19/2016 9:40:00 AM

Genie Sex Boy revealed.

12/19/2016 9:47:53 AM

He probably voted for Trump.

12/19/2016 10:06:00 AM

If any of you have ever watched Traci Lords from your parents stash or wherever, then do you all belong in the same boat?

12/19/2016 10:57:48 AM

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"Are there any situations here that would make you feel bad for GeniuSxBoY"

No

12/19/2016 11:37:13 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Ft2IFUbV0&feature=youtu.be

video he got of these guys microwaving hard drives for him...

Damn, dude was super sketch

Stick him in prison.

12/19/2016 1:42:25 PM

Dear feds that are now monitoring TWW:

I ain't have shit to do with this.

Sincerely,
afripino

12/19/2016 2:19:15 PM

http://timemachineyeah.tumblr.com/post/125624696634/goodetogo-so-i-had-a-conversation-with-jay-laze

12/19/2016 2:45:30 PM