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rwoody
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Oh shit I forgot he was at Syracuse, he was the one talking so much trash last year?

3/26/2025 7:48:30 PM

dmspack
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Yup that’s him

3/26/2025 8:14:46 PM

Walter
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I’m thinking we add Copeland and Sincere Parker, those are probably the only 2 guys worth bringing over

3/26/2025 8:58:27 PM

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Copeland is a walking turnover who can't shoot

3/26/2025 9:08:04 PM

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Copeland averaged 4.5 assists per game to go along with the 2.8 turnovers. I'd take him in a heart beat as an upgrade to Hill for sure. He's just as good or better at getting to the rim, and is big enough to not get bullied once he gets there. He kind of reminds me of a less bouncy Darreon Seabron but Copeland is better at getting the ball to open teammates. Would you rather he could shoot the 3 even just a little? Sure, but you can't have everything.

3/26/2025 9:31:56 PM

justinh524
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He is decidedly not an upgrade from Hill. He is a much worse 3 point shooter who scores less, was a high turnover rate player at syracuse who somehow got worse by moving down to mcneese. Literally the only thing he does better is assists, which is offset by his 3 turnovers a game, compared to 1 for Hill. Despite being 5-6 inches taller than Hill he's a worse rebounder. Oh also he's a bad free throw shooter.

Going further, he's gotten progressively worse at turnovers in his career. His turnovers/40 have increased significantly every year from 2.8 to 3.6 to 5.1 this past season. He led his conference in turnovers with 97 (that's bad)

So yeah i dont want a guy who cant shoot AND turns the ball over a ton. We already have a guard who turns the ball over too much but he can at least shoot. Now I'm just imagining Copeland and Parker playing together and just seeing who can give the ball away fastest. Ugh.

3/26/2025 9:50:30 PM

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Neither one of them has any business shooting 3's. Copeland is a big PG who can't shoot and turns it over a bit, Hill is an undersized SG who can't shoot and can't create for others. Copeland wouldn't be a bad pickup as someone to compete with Parker (or whoever) as a backup PG. No one he's bringing from McNeese is getting more than 10-15 mins a game at most, it just wouldn't hurt to have a couple of dudes already familiar with his system, especially his PG.

3/26/2025 10:16:22 PM

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"He led his conference in turnovers with 97 (that's bad)"

Bobby Hurley and Chris Corchiani were top 5 in turnovers for the ACC most years they played.

You've been listening to too many Keatts pressers. This was one of his issues. He over focused on avoiding turnovers to the detriment of actually moving the ball around and getting baskets. You can't just point at the turnovers and ignore how often the player has the ball in their hands and is responsible for creating offense. If a center that never had any assists lead the conference in turnovers, then yeah, that'd be bad. But Copeland isn't that, he has a ton of touches and creates a ton of offense.

Not saying the dude is ACC world beater level, but to dismiss him because he lead the league in turnovers and completely ignore the fact he was #3 in assists is silliness.

3/26/2025 11:43:22 PM

rwoody
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You putting Copeland beside Chris Corchiani?

3/27/2025 7:30:08 AM

The Coz
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CHRIS CORCHIANI IS FIRST TURNOVER!

3/27/2025 7:49:47 AM

Walter
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Silas Demary gonna be our PG? He's from Raleigh and we were in his top 2 or 3 out of HS (he committed to UGA).

https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1905325578502144121

[Edited on March 27, 2025 at 6:22 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2025 6:19:20 PM

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