my theory is that there are 2 factions of cylons... the aggressive ones that we have gotten to know, and a peaceful force, that broke off from the other group of cylons. this may have happened before the skin jobs were completely invented, so they didn't know who the other models were.

2/1/2007 6:38:49 AM

^ That doesn't make much sense, since the five are assumed to be humanoid. In other words, the invention of the humanoid cylon and then splitting up might've happened, but I don't see how that means the seven wouldn't know the five. I mean, how can they split up with one group not knowing the other?

2/1/2007 8:21:44 AM

So, someone correct me, but how long were the Cylons gone before they came back all human-looking and mystical? I thought it was only 50 years.

2/1/2007 12:22:03 PM

40

2/1/2007 12:26:50 PM

?

2/1/2007 12:54:19 PM

Quote :

"^ That doesn't make much sense, since the five are assumed to be humanoid. In other words, the invention of the humanoid cylon and then splitting up might've happened, but I don't see how that means the seven wouldn't know the five. I mean, how can they split up with one group not knowing the other?"

duh, the 2 cylon sects separated before the humanoid cylons were completed. one group took the ones we know, and the other group took the remaining 5 and each faction completed the work on them.

2/1/2007 3:40:56 PM

well how long were cylons around before first war?

[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 3:42 PM. Reason : d]

2/1/2007 3:41:26 PM

^^ So you're saying the metal ones were like "we need to sow discord, let's split up and make an uneven number of humanoid cylons- you make seven and I'll make five." Doesn't that mean the metal guys (who can only execute orders) know who they are? We haven't seen any other intelligent cylons aside from the humanoid ones. Who's splitting them up beforehand?

If they did split up, why bother telling the other group that there were another five? How do they know there are twelve models total?

2/1/2007 3:57:55 PM

^thats a good point, why do the skin jobs know there are a total of twelve models. Also who is pulling the strings. They make it look like the skin jobs are incharge of the cylons by method of concensus but where did the skin jobs come from in the first place? The opening credits say the evolved but can these machines really evolve on their own?

[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 4:03 PM. Reason : f]

2/1/2007 4:02:48 PM

Yea, who was in charge of the original robot cylons? Who gave orders

2/1/2007 5:44:27 PM

people

2/1/2007 5:48:09 PM

for anyone who hasn't...I recommend getting the soundtrack

2/1/2007 6:21:41 PM

look you are not reading what I am typing.


there were metal cylons who could think for themselves before the current generation of command giving skin jobs and order taking metallic cylons.

as the previous generation was completing its research on flesh-cylons, something happened and there was a split between them. one group finished working on their cylon models, and the other group finished working on theirs, independently of one another.

2/1/2007 7:12:08 PM

Okay, and you aren't getting what I'm saying, either.

If

Quote :

"there were metal cylons who could think for themselves before the current generation of command giving skin jobs and order taking metallic cylons."

is true, why did none of them retain the knowledge since they can regenerate so easily? I mean, unless these "higher creation cylons" just up and decided to end themselves for some lame reason.

[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 8:02 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2007 8:01:16 PM

Because your mom.

2/1/2007 8:02:11 PM

^ DON'T START WITH ME

You already started this argument.

2/1/2007 8:03:05 PM

it IS true. that is the basis of the entire series. The humanoid cylons were invented by cylons themselves. Therefore there were metal cylons that could think freely before the current generation of cylons.

2/2/2007 8:13:31 AM

^And that goes back to the orginal series from 1978[date?]

2/2/2007 11:50:48 AM

Quote :

"Yea, who was in charge of the original robot cylons? Who gave orders"

God. AKA Baltar.

2/2/2007 1:08:23 PM

^ i really dont think Baltar is the chosen one or a cylon or anything special besides a really smart human. The whole theme with Baltar is his hubris, and all of his thoughts about his special qualities just show it more and more. He is so self involved that he thinks he is the chosen one, and his mental version of Caprica is his subconcious voicing his hubris

2/2/2007 4:18:34 PM

Best line describing Baltar is from the hybrid.

Something about his mind being on fire.

"He whose mind in on fire" or something like that

brilliant

2/2/2007 7:09:18 PM

no BSG this week because of superbowl

2/4/2007 3:19:47 PM

yeah no one is dumb enough to attempt to compete with the superbowl

2/4/2007 3:40:36 PM

Sigh.

They could've done what they usually do and show the rerun around 2 am.

2/4/2007 3:43:54 PM

Quote :

"yeah no one is dumb enough to attempt to compete with the superbowl "

except for HBO showing ROME

2/5/2007 10:06:56 AM

^they showed a new ep?

2/5/2007 1:25:16 PM

Yea it was pretty good.

2/5/2007 1:38:53 PM

it was an awesome episode with a lot of torture and new, improved Octavian

2/5/2007 1:44:36 PM

there was the puppy bowl on animal planet.

2/5/2007 2:25:10 PM

btttonight

2/11/2007 3:02:12 PM

I'm guessing that Baltar is declared insane and not held accountable for his actions

2/11/2007 3:13:50 PM

the man did have a point when he said that he literally had a gun pointed at his head when he was in office and Gaeta didn't

I'm sure if I were on the fleet I'd want Baltar strung up, but from a distanced perspective I don't think he willfully did any harm

2/11/2007 3:31:54 PM

yeah he didnt do any intentional harm in office but it was his nuke that was blown up that tipped the Cylons off to new caprica in the first place, plus he never behaved in any way but what he thinks is good for himself. Interesting character but I cant think of any redeeming qualities.

2/11/2007 4:45:44 PM

bttt

2/11/2007 9:58:10 PM

its amazing how ty oozes badassedness

2/11/2007 10:47:36 PM

good episode...bit predictable... wish they would have expanded the bonus scene

2/11/2007 11:12:46 PM

Next week looks like a budget/filler episode. Oh no, we're stuck in a room!!!

2/11/2007 11:15:53 PM

^haha thats exactly what i thought when i saw the preview. This week i thought was good even though it didnt really do anything to advance the plot.

2/11/2007 11:24:10 PM

it'll also have alot of flashbacks and stuff on it

2/11/2007 11:45:50 PM

once again Dr. Cottle is one of my favorite side characters.

2/11/2007 11:48:27 PM

Him and Helo are my two favorite characters. Helo was suppose to be killed in the miniseries but they (the producers) liked him so much they kept him

2/12/2007 12:03:48 AM

Quote :

"Next week looks like a budget/filler episode. Oh no, we're stuck in a room!!! "

haha, me too
same thought

ok episode....was kind of meh

2/12/2007 9:41:22 AM

Meh episode. I mean, it was all right, but nothing happened, I don't want some ER/Dr. House shit when Baltar is on the way to the gallows.

2/12/2007 9:44:55 AM

at least there was very little love triangle bull shit in it

2/12/2007 4:47:56 PM

Needs more space battles!

2/12/2007 5:14:57 PM

Ron Moore should stop test screening his episodes with an audience of only women and queers.

2/12/2007 11:13:11 PM

^ Shut the fuck up- I thought it was just as useless as the rest of you.

2/13/2007 12:14:29 AM

so far no renewal...


correction, its just been renewed...13 episode season to return in JANUARY

[Edited on February 13, 2007 at 12:50 AM. Reason : a]

2/13/2007 12:44:22 AM

jesus, talk about a long break

2/13/2007 11:45:10 AM

Well, I think this 20 episode thing is wearing on them- we're getting a lot more filler. So maybe going back to 13 isn't such a bad idea.

2/13/2007 11:49:34 AM