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"point stands burro. I said all along that I understand the decision but it is my opinion that you let upstanding guys like Russell Wilson do what they need to do succeed even if that means fucking up your own philosophy for a season or two...in addition to the fact that he let him do it last year."

At no time is one player allowed to be above THE TEAM. TOB is here to build a program. He's not doing his job if he lets one player hold the program hostage for two seasons. Last year is different than this year, we have explained that to you several times. And you clearly haven't paid attention if you didn't see that coming into practice late effected his play. TOB saw that, and knew they were going to go through personnel changes this year and asked him for a commitment. He wouldn't give it, so, TOB had to do his JOB, and move forward to do what is in the best interest to the PROGRAM and the TEAM. It sucks, but it was all Russell's choice.

5/2/2011 9:29:58 AM

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"pretty sure you are one of the retarded ones..."

For suggesting its a bad idea to tell one of the best QB's in NC State history he's not welcome back for his senior season because he missed 2 weeks of practice in the spring for baseball when he was recruited as a 2 sport athlete......ok......thank you for proving my point.



^9-4 and the best ACC season in decades...wow...we really fucked up by letting Russ play baseball last spring. The guy was recruited as a 2 sport athlete. I'm not saying he should hold the team hostage. Wilson has some blame in this, however, he SAYS currently that all he asked for was a fair shot to compete for the starting job this fall, and considering he was recruited as a 2 sport athlete and we let him do it for 4 years, this is unfair to him.

I said in my first post I get what O'Brien is doing, and I think there is stuff we don't know about as far as Glennon goes and his intentions should Wilson have returned....but it still smells bad and I don't like it.



[Edited on May 2, 2011 at 9:38 AM. Reason : ]

5/2/2011 9:33:48 AM

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" to tell one of the best QB's in NC State history he's not welcome back for his senior season"

I'll wager anything that this never happened, not even close

5/2/2011 9:39:44 AM

^^just stop, you're a damn moron

5/2/2011 10:15:51 AM

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"Is this just the people that held on to Lowe till the bitter end just trying to stir shit up? "

i don't think any of the folks bashing TOB were Lowe supporters.

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"For suggesting its a bad idea to tell one of the best QB's in NC State history he's not welcome back for his senior season because he missed 2 weeks of practice in the spring for baseball"

I've read and heard TOB say several times that he would be welcome back, just not as the starter.

Only miss 2 weeks of spring practice? Could somebody who knows what they're talking about describe when he could potentially come back? I'm under the impression that his baseball season would be even longer this year than last year. Is that right? ( i realize it's already been mentioned a few times, but some people seem to keep missing it)

[Edited on May 2, 2011 at 10:26 AM. Reason : V Thanks]

5/2/2011 10:19:41 AM

Sally League plays until early September, plus a few weeks for playoffs.

At the very best, Wilson would be in pads like 24 hours before the first game.

5/2/2011 10:23:03 AM

a .226 BA has to suck when you realize you could have chosen to be a god on a college campus for another year

5/2/2011 10:28:13 AM

Derek Jeter batted .210 in his first year of rookie ball/single A

He's doing alright

5/2/2011 10:33:11 AM

im tired of the "long form" meme but i'd love to also see RW's contract to see if he is contractually obligated to be with his current team (provided he didn't get called up).

5/2/2011 10:35:07 AM

for every jeter, i bet you could find a hundred who didn't get better

i'm just saying that for a guy who was revered just 4 months ago, life sure isn't going his way right now

5/2/2011 10:47:40 AM

The point is that first year stats don't mean shit

[Edited on May 2, 2011 at 11:00 AM. Reason : Not to mention his big paychecks probably soften the blow]

5/2/2011 10:59:47 AM

my point was that he's getting a little pissy because he can't have his cake and eat it too, and the one he's eating is one of those shitty black bean chocolate ones...you know where it's ok, but not everything you want it to be

[Edited on May 2, 2011 at 11:17 AM. Reason : .]

5/2/2011 11:14:34 AM

He's probably not as short-sighted as most of the people in this thread have proven to be

5/2/2011 11:19:11 AM

still credible

5/2/2011 11:20:23 AM

if you're on TOB's side, why are we arguing?

5/2/2011 11:26:58 AM

Thought it was a discussion, did not realize we were engaging in mortal combat

5/2/2011 11:29:46 AM

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/voices/blogpost/9530688/

winner

winner

chicken

dinner

5/2/2011 12:52:05 PM

Agreed. It boggles my mind how much rabble-rousing there has been about this subject, when it really all is very cut and dry

5/2/2011 1:22:40 PM

If people would take a moment after hearing about a story like this, breathe, rationally consider all the facts, and then post, TWW would be a better place. Folks instead like to jump to conclusions based on whatever opinions they previously held (RW is a golden god, TOB fucked up the Clemson game and should die).

My vast experience as an internet discussionist leads me to believe this will never happen, though.

5/2/2011 1:31:56 PM

99.9 right now

TOB interview from signing day

/stupidity

5/2/2011 4:03:34 PM

^^problem is, some people in here have been ignoring a laundry list of reasons/facts why this happened, instead choosing to keep up a hackneyed argument

5/2/2011 4:11:03 PM

You gonna miss another spring practice with your softball?
Might wanna learn how to hit if you're gonna pursue that sport

5/2/2011 4:12:28 PM

Quote :

"I've read and heard TOB say several times that he would be welcome back, just not as the starter. "

And that would go over with the fans like a fart in a diving suit as soon as Glennon struggled.

5/2/2011 7:20:15 PM

he's been saying it for 3 months

nothing about this is surprising

5/2/2011 7:22:31 PM

disclaimer: this is from Heather Dinich

But she's ranked Earle Wolfe as #3 Safety in the ACC this year.

He was completely unheard of till he camped at State and earned a scholarship. Love to have 50 more like him honestly. No stars just go out and plant tj yates into the ground or whoever's next to be king of the tar hole.

credibility++;

7/5/2011 1:52:50 PM

I guess this ends the discussion over whether we should have hired PJ instead of TOB.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6769894/ncaa-places-georgia-tech-yellow-jackets-four-years-probation

+1TOB. Apparently we are the cleanest program in the ACC.

7/14/2011 3:08:46 PM

I can't wait for goalielax to try to spin that.

7/14/2011 3:10:16 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I am ruing the day that we passed on Paul Johnson.

7/14/2011 3:13:28 PM

7/14/2011 3:53:33 PM

i made that yesterday and see it's making its rounds on twitter today

success

7/14/2011 3:55:45 PM

props dweedle

7/14/2011 4:00:05 PM

http://twitter.com/#!/LurkingTOB

good stuff

7/14/2011 4:25:48 PM

It's like a shitty lee_folwer

7/14/2011 4:33:40 PM

eh, give it time

7/14/2011 5:28:11 PM

to the top

[Edited on September 10, 2011 at 4:55 PM. Reason : ]

9/10/2011 4:54:48 PM

[Edited on September 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM. Reason : too big]

9/10/2011 4:56:39 PM

Can't win 'em all

9/10/2011 4:57:35 PM

^^that implies that we were at one time good

[Edited on September 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM. Reason : yo]

9/10/2011 4:57:48 PM

TOB's on a really bad streak of poor decision-making since around the Clemson game last year.

9/10/2011 4:57:54 PM

hes always had a horrible reputation for decision making

9/10/2011 5:02:29 PM

His worst decision has been keeping Mike Archer around.

9/10/2011 5:03:26 PM

Nate and RW were the catalysts of last year and it's showing

9/10/2011 5:03:51 PM

Miss me yet?

9/10/2011 5:04:59 PM

^[NO]

9/10/2011 5:05:32 PM

His worst decision has been keeping Mike Archer around.

9/10/2011 5:06:13 PM

We can kick a mean field goal!! ...oh, you expect more than that?

[Edited on September 10, 2011 at 5:07 PM. Reason : -]

9/10/2011 5:06:45 PM

Glennon sucks, good call TOB.

9/10/2011 5:08:46 PM

i just put together ncstates highlight reel for the 1st half of wake. here it is:

9/10/2011 5:17:10 PM

Good start to the half........

9/10/2011 5:21:59 PM

LOL.

9/10/2011 5:22:01 PM