Quote :

"Vox is turning out to be a pretty partisan place"

Turning out to be?

I'm not sure which is worse, that liberals;

A: Can't tell their media is all biased agenda-driven tabloid shit
B: Don't care their media is all biased agenda-driven tabloid shit

8/31/2016 2:30:58 PM

the shallowness of your dialogue is amazing

8/31/2016 3:21:37 PM

Nuh uh, ur posts r shallow

8/31/2016 3:53:42 PM

So the FBI released their findings from the investigation into Hillary's emails. Although for some reason I doubt the media is going to spend much time reporting on it.....

Quote :

"CLINTON never deleted, nor did she instruct anyone to delete, her email to avoid complying with the Federal Records Act, FOIA, or State or FBI requests for information. Concerning the Congressional preservation request on March 3, 2015 for email and other records, CLINTON trusted her legal team would comply with the request. CLINTON had no knowledge regarding the following topics: The creation, storate, transfer, or access to an archive of her email created by MONICA HANLEY in the Spring of 2013. The Specific processes and procedures used by CLINTON's legal team and PRN to separate her work and personal email Discussions of federal records related to the Apple, Pagliano, or PRN servers The existence of any copies of her clintoneemail.com emails, other than what has been provided to the FBI and State March 2015 deletions by PRN"

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton

I was right, all of you were wrong, neener neener neener

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 2:31 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2016 2:31:10 PM

you're a weird dude

9/2/2016 2:42:29 PM

(her lawyers did it for her)

9/2/2016 2:42:55 PM

^NOR DID SHE INSTRUCT

^^Yeah I am, so? Doesn't change the fact that I'm the only one on here who's called out this email scandal for what it was, which was total and complete BULLSHIT courtesy of the same people responsible for Whitewater, Travelgate, Benjamin Ghazi, and on and on and on.

9/2/2016 2:47:10 PM

Right, because lawyers always do things without their client's permission. That's how it works in our #ImWithHer echo-chamber. Cash for political favors is just a right ring conspiracy theory by those crazy racist republicans.

9/2/2016 2:54:47 PM

Lol those aren't the findings, that's just what she told them during the interview

9/2/2016 3:01:51 PM

Quote :

"We have no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI."

-FBI Directory James Comey

Any other questions? Also I'm fairly certain that excerpt I posted were the FBI's own summary of their findings, not verbatim quotes from Clinton.

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2016 3:10:55 PM

No wonder you are a fan of the Clintons. Look at the language you are using.

No they aren't "verbatim quotes", but it is a summary of the information she told them in the interview. Look at the top of the document you quoted from.

The FBI has "no basis" to say she's lying doesn't mean she's not lying.

"Fairly certain" means your not certain but tried to pass it off as the whole truth anyway.

9/2/2016 3:18:56 PM

Quote :

"The FBI has "no basis" to say she's lying doesn't mean she's not lying."

And that folks, is a perfect microcosm of 30 years of Clinton scandals. WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING SO THERE MUST BE SOMETHING.

Just admit it, this email scandal belongs on the same trash heap as every other failed attempt at bringing down the Clintons.

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 3:22 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2016 3:20:51 PM

If you look at the history of the email investigations, the GOP only pursued this when they realized Benghazi was a dead end. It's a classic political smear, albeit very successful so far.

There was some questionable practices, but this was never that big of a deal. Of the 30-50k emails examined, we have practically nothing that impinges on Clinton's practices. This is impeccable if you think about it, especially when you consider the mountains of classified material Clinton must have surely handled on a daily basis.

It's better that the public knows and this got investigated but at this point seems like this is being harped on unfairly.

Hillary just gave a very bellicose speech calling for ramping up of the military, and all we're hearing about are these emails.

9/2/2016 3:26:11 PM

I wonder who appointed James Comey. Hmmm.

9/2/2016 3:27:13 PM

I just don't get why it's so hard to just admit that while what she did wasn't illegal it was clearly, at best, bad judgment and probably a bit unethical.

You can think that. It's OK. It doesn't not make her far and away the choice in this election.

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 3:29 PM. Reason : ^ in his current role, Obama. Before that, Bush. Twice.]

9/2/2016 3:28:11 PM

Comey also is a lifelong Republican

9/2/2016 3:30:21 PM

Quote :

"And that folks, is a perfect microcosm of 30 years of Clinton scandals."

Not really. Bill was accused by multiple women of sexual assault. That was certainly something.

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2016 3:31:22 PM

And Vince Foster. He was a person.

9/2/2016 3:32:31 PM

Quote :

"GOP only pursued this when they realized Benghazi was a dead end."

Benghazis only a dead end because the GOP is retarded. She was running guns to fucking Al Qaeda through Libya.

9/2/2016 3:35:52 PM

oh word?

9/2/2016 3:36:51 PM

Quote :

"I just don't get why it's so hard to just admit that while what she did wasn't illegal it was clearly, at best, bad judgment and probably a bit unethical. You can think that. It's OK. It doesn't not make her far and away the choice in this election."

I have, haven't I? I'm fairly certain ( OopsPowSrprs) I've posted more than once that a private email server was a bad idea on her part. Hell, Clinton herself has admitted she should have never done it. But when you've got the other side chanting "TRAITOR" and "LOCK HER UP" in reference to the same exact issue, it's worth pointing how completely and utterly baseless those charges are.

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 3:46 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2016 3:45:39 PM

It seems sketchy, because it would allow her to conceal or alter her email record, but this only applies to mail between other people on the same server. But of the tens of thousands emails reviewed, there's nothing too crazy in there is there?

If there was something more sinister found in these, then i'd say keep digging. But looking at why we even care about these emails, this is a well-beaten dead horse. It started from a fishing expedition, that was part of another fishing expedition. It's not like Hillary did something wrong, then we found her email server.

We, the public, are getting sucked into a pointless issue, because hillary's opposition know even the discussion of an investigation makes it seems like hillary is doing something wrong. It's in the same vein as asking "does donald trump support NAMBLA?"

9/2/2016 3:48:30 PM

Quote :

"But of the tens of thousands emails reviewed, there's nothing too crazy in there is there?"

Of the ones that weren't DELETED?

What a shocker. The ones Clinton didn't hide weren't bad. No way.

9/2/2016 3:52:16 PM

Theyve recovered almost all the emails at this point.

9/2/2016 4:08:01 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN11829I

Is she better than Trump? I remember when McCain was "too old."

Sorry, "better" is never an option in this election. "Not as bad" is more appropriate

[Edited on September 3, 2016 at 2:10 AM. Reason : .]

9/3/2016 2:09:52 AM

Far better is the same as less worse.

If this wasn't a binary choice you may have a point but unfortunately the way our election and two-party system is those are equivalences.

9/3/2016 7:55:48 AM

Quote :

" She was running guns to fucking Al Qaeda through Libya"

Lololololololololololol

9/3/2016 2:48:37 PM

^^^

Quote :

""However, in December of 2012, Clinton suffered a concussion and then around the New Year had a blood clot," the FBI's summary said. "Based on her doctor's advice, she could only work at State for a few hours a day and could not recall every briefing she received." A Clinton campaign aide said Clinton only referenced her concussion to explain she was not at work but for a few hours a day at that time, not that she did not remember things from that period."

That's how i read the statement in the original report, outside the insinuations of a journalist.

9/3/2016 3:51:54 PM

https://hillaryspeeches.com/scheduled-events/
This is a very intense and crazy schedule.

9/5/2016 9:06:38 AM

It obviously includes everyone associated with her campaign so it's much less impressive.

But the stamina argument Trump was making was always asinine. As he was blowing up daily from his own lack of self control, she was raking in money for her campaign and the party. Always was going to ramp up appearances post-Labor Day.

I think she is running a great campaign but does need to acquiesce to the journalists demand for a press conference. Biggest flaw in her campaign to me so far (well besides the general email and transparency issues).

9/5/2016 11:41:44 AM

The biggest flaw in her campaign is Hillary herself. She has zero charisma and cannot make a public appearance without appearing fake as hell. This is coming from someone who's (obviously) a huge fan of hers and thinks she'll make an excellent President. Girl has no hustle.



Also, she's apparently giving a presser today.

[Edited on September 5, 2016 at 11:49 AM. Reason : .]

9/5/2016 11:44:02 AM

^^

Yes, it includes her husband, VP, current P and VP.
But compared with Republican's schedulehttps://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule/
they work together and fight together.

[Edited on September 5, 2016 at 4:33 PM. Reason : link]

9/5/2016 4:33:22 PM

^^I'll believe it when I see it. She had a pseudo-presser at a black and Hispanic journalist's convention a month ago and she criticized for lying and obfuscation during it.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/05/hillary_gave_a_rare_press_conference_it_was_terrible.html

She's now actually traveling on the same plane as the traveling press with her after avoiding doing so up until now (I know, new plane, blah blah blah, it was avoidance).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/05/hillary-clinton-greets-her-traveling-press-corps-aboard-her-new-plane/

The lack of public coverage and appearances (though she has made fuckloads of fundraising appearances, so if you want to talk to her just pay 25k for some chicken) since officially becoming the nominee is kind of inexcusable. It's a sound strategy, she's got this locked up as long as she doesn't fuck up so why not hide as long as you can? She can really only hurt her chances for all the reasons Shrike mentioned.

9/5/2016 4:51:21 PM

I agree that the schedule is actually a lot LESS impressive.
And she coughed badly today, pretty embarrassing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP2CNxuVA94

9/5/2016 5:22:08 PM

^^ the other side isn't doing that either yet, so I guess the idea is why should she?

Trump is actually far worse to the media. I mean he encourages fans to verbally assault them and sends out emails calling the. All sorts of names.

The whole Clinton/Trump/Media relationship is so fascinating

9/5/2016 7:25:04 PM

Yeah, it is. Trump has given them far more access though. He's been a much more public figure, again largely because he needs to be. If he wasn't constantly gaffing or just saying horrible shit Hillary would be forced to get out there more, since he is who he is she's just letting him hang himself while she sits back and watches.

9/5/2016 7:45:12 PM

Quote :

"Theyve recovered almost all the emails at this point."

Except the thousands she had her lawyers delete and wipe with bleachbit?

9/6/2016 2:13:22 PM

What's with her cough and spitting green cough drops or something into her water? Is it from.the blood thinners from her clotting problem?

9/6/2016 5:20:02 PM

Neither, that was a premature reptile egg.

9/6/2016 5:38:21 PM

That actually was kind of gross. I don't quite understand how a seasoned political operator like her goes out on stage, hacks up a lung for 4 or 5 minutes and can barely talk while some outlets are painting her as being on death's door. Just doesn't seem smart.

The whole Hillary health scare is pretty absurd, but she just gave them a bunch if ammo.

[Edited on September 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM. Reason : Lol at reptile egg]

9/6/2016 5:40:23 PM

I think it's a hilariously bad look for her. I mean people get colds all the time and it's happened to me when I've tried to lecture, but she definitely looks like she's on her last leg and falling apart.

9/6/2016 6:06:07 PM

She needs a lesson on how to handle a mic. She had a handheld mic and just kept that thing right there while hacking up a lung for five minutes. Just say excuse me and get it under control or let someone else speak for a minute.

9/6/2016 6:32:44 PM

Quote :

"she definitely looks like she's on her last leg and falling apart."

No.

9/6/2016 6:37:06 PM

I don't think she actually IS falling apart, but if you already dislike her and believe all that BS that's been said about her, it's some pretty good fodder for confirmation bias to watch her gasping for air like that.

9/6/2016 6:44:52 PM

The promise of Hillary dropping dead at any moment makes me more likely to vote for her

9/6/2016 6:55:10 PM

She is always coughing though, I think it's a side effect of her blood thinners for her clotting problem. Is the coughing why she avoided the press so long?

Did she not know the glass was clear when she spit out her throat lozenge?

9/6/2016 7:23:41 PM

She is? I haven't really been paying much attention, but this is pretty much the first time I've heard about it or seen anyone make such a huge issue of it.

9/6/2016 7:32:34 PM

She should have Marco Rubio coach her on how to proactively handle a glass of water as cough preventative.

9/6/2016 9:49:16 PM

She had a bottle of water, just couldn't open it.

9/6/2016 11:21:57 PM

This topic is about as low brow as Trump's dick comments. There are less than 70 days until election day and this is what the election is about right now.

9/6/2016 11:50:28 PM