As long as we can blame other people for the poor choices we make as individuals, right fellow liberals?

Remember... nothing is your fault, you're a victim. See how that person didn't knock up a 15 year old, that isn't because he chose not to, that's because of the color of his skin giving him a privilege.

12/5/2015 12:25:08 PM

Decisions are a reflection of education

12/5/2015 1:35:07 PM

In JCEs reality, the past doesn't affect the present.

12/5/2015 2:10:31 PM

No you are completely right. I'm sure when Civil Rights Hero Michael Brown decided to rush a cop, it was because inner city high schools don't get the funding. I remember at my white high school we had a class "Don't rob stores and fight cops 101", it was just a white privilege though.

Let's not consider the fact Mike Brown had no father figure in his life, let's point to the scapegoat of "racist society" 100 years ago. God forbid we address the problem #LIBERALISM

12/5/2015 2:22:20 PM

Wait a sec. This is getting fucking stupid

Individual choices have zero to do with this. The state of a larger population is what matters.

poverty and lack of education lead to poor decisions regardless of color. Why did my 22 year old cousin get knocked up by her 17 year old bf? Lots of reason and it's still her fault.

Finding the reasons why something happens on a greater scale and finding out how to prevent it is the important part.

But if you believe everyone makes every life choice in a bubble with zero outside influence than you will most certainly think what I just wrote is dumb.

12/5/2015 5:31:19 PM

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""In 1890 black people couldn't learn to read"

Wait a second we let our negroes learn to read ?

12/5/2015 5:50:04 PM

JCE arguing with himself ITT

12/5/2015 9:08:20 PM

lol

racists are dumb

12/5/2015 9:12:23 PM

hi :3

12/5/2015 9:15:47 PM

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0U01OQ20151218

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"Manhunt for Texas affluenza teen after he apparently goes missing The wealthy Texas teen who was given probation after killing 4 in a 2013 drunk-driving accident, has gone missing. Officials believe he may have fled the country with his mother."

12/17/2015 10:22:11 PM

moron is all

12/17/2015 10:27:19 PM

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"poverty and lack of education lead to poor decisions regardless of color."

Then perhaps we should call it "Rich privilege" or "Making responsible decisions privilege"

12/18/2015 10:25:51 AM

except for the fact that poor white people tend to get the benefit of the doubt while black people, regardless of wealth, don't.

12/18/2015 11:09:45 AM

Benefit of the doubt in what situations?

12/18/2015 11:11:57 AM

presumption of guilt or innocence

12/18/2015 11:13:40 AM

Presumption by whom, specifically, in what situations?

12/18/2015 11:34:19 AM

obvious leading question is obvious.

[Edited on December 18, 2015 at 11:38 AM. Reason : false narrative false narrative false narrative false narrative false narrative ]

12/18/2015 11:38:19 AM

Asking for evidence and specifics when people make vague references to racism.

Specifics?
Evidence?

12/18/2015 11:41:17 AM

most things in life, really

but in this context, interactions with police

12/18/2015 11:41:51 AM

#WhitePower

12/18/2015 11:44:54 AM

don't waste your time thegoodlife3...JCE has already decided that nothing bad happens to black people that isn't a result of their own poor decisions. HUR is just his echo-chamber.

12/18/2015 11:46:15 AM

What evidence is there that police presume guilt based on race?

And before you post "black people get pulled over more by cops = racism"...

Note that correlation does not imply causation, and consider other factors besides the melanin in one's skin. It's easy for liberals to paint a picture of the evil oppressive 2015 racist police force when they ignore factors such as wealth and crime rate.

12/18/2015 11:51:24 AM

you've already been given stats on that

here are some stats on legit matters of life and death:

http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issues/death-penalty/us-death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-and-race

12/18/2015 11:54:40 AM

So "white privilege" now only applies to murderers in the 1970s?

So my privilege is, knowing if I went back in time and got murdered in 1970, there would be a harsh penalty for my killer if they were black? Can't wait to get murdered and cash in on this privilege.

12/18/2015 12:03:13 PM

nobody said only. there you go again.

12/18/2015 12:06:07 PM

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"What evidence is there that police presume guilt based on race?"

It's stupid questions like this that cause no one to take you seriously anymore (well that, and realizing you're the flouride-guy). What kind of evidence would you want to see that would prove to you that some cops do use race to presume guilt? I mean, it's really a no-brainer, but what would convince you?

[Edited on December 18, 2015 at 12:08 PM. Reason : ]

12/18/2015 12:07:30 PM

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"What kind of evidence would you want to see that would prove to you that some cops do use race to presume guilt?"

Ones that account for all relevant factors.

12/18/2015 12:19:47 PM

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"So "white privilege" now only applies to murderers in the 1970s? So my privilege is, knowing if I went back in time and got murdered in 1970, there would be a harsh penalty for my killer if they were black? Can't wait to get murdered and cash in on this privilege. "

I'd really like to know how that's your conclusion after reading the piece I linked to. assuming you actually read it.

12/18/2015 12:22:41 PM

It doesn't control for severity, and number of crimes committed, both relevant factors to consider.

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"Three separate research teams found that the characteristics of the crime – not the racial characteristics of either the defendant or the victim – could be used to make very accurate predictions of whether federal prosecutors would seek the death penalty. The study found that the likelihood of a decision to seek the death penalty rose for murders that were particularly heinous – usually involving a number of aggravating circumstances such as the killing of several victims, sexual abuse of the victim, the killing of an elderly person or a child, premeditated murders where there was extensive planning, killings in which the victim was set on fire, and murders in which the victim was mutilated or dismembered. “Our findings support the idea that race was not a factor in the decision to seek the death penalty once we adjusted for the circumstances of the crime,” said Stephen Klein, a RAND senior research scientist and co-leader of the research project. “We were surprised by how well we could predict the decision to seek the death penalty based on the nature of the crime.”"

http://www.rand.org/news/press/2006/07/17.html

12/18/2015 12:55:30 PM

but you didn't answer my question

and a 9 year old press release from a thinktank isn't an answer

[Edited on December 18, 2015 at 1:02 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2015 1:01:41 PM

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"once we adjusted for the circumstances of the crime"

12/18/2015 2:13:24 PM

My conclusion from your piece is that you need to consider all relevant factors before crying racism.

Your link does not consider severity or past crimes at all. This is flawed because those are relevant factors in considering whether or not the death penalty is pursued, much more relevant than skin color.

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"and a 9 year old press release from a thinktank"

We are dealing with a lot of old data, "9 years old" isn't really a relevant criticism for this source. I know the study is inconvenient because it absolutely refutes your claim, but it's the truth. You should be happy! It turns out the death penalty system isn't racist like you thought! Yay society

12/18/2015 2:14:28 PM

you've yet to explain this:

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"So "white privilege" now only applies to murderers in the 1970s? So my privilege is, knowing if I went back in time and got murdered in 1970, there would be a harsh penalty for my killer if they were black? Can't wait to get murdered and cash in on this privilege"

I realize that you posted this before googling something that you're a fan of, so maybe you just forgot

just curious to know what you were talking about there

12/18/2015 2:41:45 PM

I mean I don't know the statistics, but from experience the majority of stories I have seen on guys getting the death penalty have actually been white. I suppose the counter to that could simply be no one cares when a black guy gets killed so we dont see it on the news.

12/18/2015 2:45:06 PM

Death penalty isn't the only place where racial bias shows its face in the justice system-- it happens at all levels. The studies demonstrating this have been posted a few times in this thread though, so if you don't accept this already, you're not going to accept it now.

12/18/2015 2:50:25 PM

^^ that's why we have statistics

12/18/2015 2:52:25 PM

Wasnt trying to argue one way or the other just pointing out personal observations. Granted the majority of stories that make the news about the death penalty are when someone got a stay of execution and people are pissed.

12/18/2015 3:07:14 PM

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"The studies demonstrating this have been posted a few times in this thread though, so if you don't accept this already, you're not going to accept it now."

Classic moron post. A vague reference to "the studies" and implying anyone disagreeing is in denial.

Perhaps you should also tell us how white people are the most racist race because of "the studies".

12/18/2015 3:17:33 PM

It's a specific reference actually, it's in this same thread.

12/18/2015 3:19:51 PM

^ As "specific" as the "evidence" for the Mizzou oppression, and Tim Wolfe "racism" you were claiming but never provided? Very Specific, indeed. Just look at "the facts" you are in denial and won't accept the "evidence".

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"^^ that's why we have statistics"

So we can exclude very relevant variables like severity of crime, courtroom conduct, defense attorney quality, then point to a correlation of race and victimhood!

12/18/2015 3:21:09 PM

^ that was specific too, you just tend to ignore information that doesn't fit your delusional narrative.

12/18/2015 3:22:19 PM

If Person X shoots someone for sleeping with their wife...

If Person Z kidnaps, rapes, murders, and dismembers someone...

Person Z will probably get the death penalty. Thegoodlife3's link doesn't consider this factor. It just says, "Person Z was black, RACISM!!!"

12/18/2015 3:22:56 PM

why do you keep ignoring the question I've asked you multiple times?

12/18/2015 3:30:12 PM

I have no clue what your specific question is. I was poking fun at you because you went from guilt assumption from cops to some link about death penalty that completely ignores factors to paint a false story of racism.

Now you seem to be focusing on this instead of the fact that your specific claim was completely debunked.

12/18/2015 3:32:08 PM

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""So "white privilege" now only applies to murderers in the 1970s? So my privilege is, knowing if I went back in time and got murdered in 1970, there would be a harsh penalty for my killer if they were black? Can't wait to get murdered and cash in on this privilege"

what is this supposed to mean and why did you post it?

12/18/2015 3:46:34 PM

I was pointing out your sudden switch from "cops assume your guilty if you're black" to the capital punishment link.

Also pointing out it is funny to reference someone is "privileged" by this racial disparity you referenced, but they have to be murdered first to experience the alleged "privilege".

I'm really not sure what you are confused about. If you want to cause a distraction from me debunking these false examples of racism, just reference some fluoride nonsense and then make a vague reference to "the facts" like moron does when he loses an argument.

12/18/2015 4:21:37 PM

are you malfunctioning in some weird way that doesn't allow you to comprehend things?

12/18/2015 4:30:05 PM

Yes

12/18/2015 4:34:59 PM

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"Three separate research teams found that the characteristics of the crime – not the racial characteristics of either the defendant or the victim – could be used to make very accurate predictions of whether federal prosecutors would seek the death penalty."

12/18/2015 4:39:59 PM

Gravity?!??

I can't see it.

Prove to me it exists!!!!!

12/19/2015 6:19:51 AM